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The Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire and the Byzantine Empire | Lex Fridman Podcast #498

Anthony Kaldellis is a historian of the Roman Empire and author of "The New Roman Empire", a comprehensive history of the Byzantine Empire (Eastern Roman Empire). Thank you for listening ❤ Check out our sponsors: https://lexfridman.com/sponsors/ep498-sb See below for timestamps, transcript, and to give feedback, submit questions, contact Lex, etc. *Transcript:* https://lexfridman.com/anthony-kaldellis-transcript *CONTACT LEX:* *Feedback* - give feedback to Lex: https://lexfridman.com/survey *AMA* - submit questions, videos or call-in: https://lexfridman.com/ama *Hiring* - join our team: https://lexfridman.com/hiring *Other* - other ways to get in touch: https://lexfridman.com/contact *EPISODE LINKS:* Anthony's Books: https://amzn.to/49AX7Q1 Anthony's Publications: https://kaldellispublications.weebly.com Anthony's University of Chicago page: https://classics.uchicago.edu/people/anthony-kaldellis The New Roman Empire (book): https://amzn.to/3PTFTqk Streams of Gold (book): https://amzn.to/4fgRMRq Byzantium & Friends Podcast: https://byzantiumandfriends.podbean.com/ The History of Byzantium Podcast: https://thehistoryofbyzantium.com/ *SPONSORS:* To support this podcast, check out our sponsors & get discounts: *Upwork:* Platform for hiring freelancers. Go to https://lexfridman.com/s/upwork-ep498-sb *Fin:* AI agent for customer service. Go to https://lexfridman.com/s/fin-ep498-sb *BetterHelp:* Online therapy and counseling. Go to https://lexfridman.com/s/betterhelp-ep498-sb *LMNT:* Zero-sugar electrolyte drink mix. Go to https://lexfridman.com/s/lmnt-ep498-sb *Shopify:* Sell stuff online. Go to https://lexfridman.com/s/shopify-ep498-sb *Perplexity:* AI-powered answer engine. Go to https://lexfridman.com/s/perplexity-ep498-sb *OUTLINE:* 0:00 - Episode highlight 1:24 - Introduction 1:51 - The Roman Empire and the Byzantine Empire 5:49 - 2,200 Years of Roman History 26:12 - Power, violence, and civil war 47:27 - Edict of Caracalla 1:00:23 - Crisis of the Third Century 1:14:52 - Constantine and the new Roman Empire 1:26:53 - Christianity in the Roman Empire 1:52:21 - Fall of the Western Roman Empire 2:05:17 - Eunuchs, Taxes, and Power 2:30:24 - Emperor Justinian and wars of conquest 2:47:26 - The Arab conquests 3:07:01 - Why the Roman empire survived so long 3:33:08 - Lessons from history *PODCAST LINKS:* - Podcast Website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast - Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr - Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 - RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ - Podcast Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrAXtmErZgOdP_8GztsuKi9nrraNbKKp4 - Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/lexclips *SOCIAL LINKS:* - X: https://x.com/lexfridman - Instagram: https://instagram.com/lexfridman - TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@lexfridman - LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/lexfridman - Facebook: https://facebook.com/lexfridman - Patreon: https://patreon.com/lexfridman - Telegram: https://t.me/lexfridman - Reddit: https://reddit.com/r/lexfridman

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Jun 30, 20263h 51mWatch on YouTube ↗

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June 30, 2026
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Anthony Kaldellis is a historian of the Roman Empire and author of "The New Roman Empire", a comprehensive history of the Byzantine Empire (Eastern Roman Empire). Thank you for listening ❤ Check out our sponsors: https://lexfridman.com/sponsors/ep498-sb See below for timestamps, transcript, and to give feedback, submit questions, contact Lex, etc. *Transcript:* https://lexfridman.com/anthony-kaldellis-transcript *CONTACT LEX:* *Feedback* - give feedback to Lex: https://lexfridman.com/survey *AMA* - submit questions, videos or call-in: https://lexfridman.com/ama *Hiring* - join our team: https://lexfridman.com/hiring *Other* - other ways to get in touch: https://lexfridman.com/contact *EPISODE LINKS:* Anthony's Books: https://amzn.to/49AX7Q1 Anthony's Publications: https://kaldellispublications.weebly.com Anthony's University of Chicago page: https://classics.uchicago.edu/people/anthony-kaldellis The New Roman Empire (book): https://amzn.to/3PTFTqk Streams of Gold (book): https://amzn.to/4fgRMRq Byzantium & Friends Podcast: https://byzantiumandfriends.podbean.com/ The History of Byzantium Podcast: https://thehistoryofbyzantium.com/ *SPONSORS:* To support this podcast, check out our sponsors & get discounts: *Upwork:* Platform for hiring freelancers. Go to https://lexfridman.com/s/upwork-ep498-sb *Fin:* AI agent for customer service. Go to https://lexfridman.com/s/fin-ep498-sb *BetterHelp:* Online therapy and counseling. Go to https://lexfridman.com/s/betterhelp-ep498-sb *LMNT:* Zero-sugar electrolyte drink mix. Go to https://lexfridman.com/s/lmnt-ep498-sb *Shopify:* Sell stuff online. Go to https://lexfridman.com/s/shopify-ep498-sb *Perplexity:* AI-powered answer engine. Go to https://lexfridman.com/s/perplexity-ep498-sb *OUTLINE:* 0:00 - Episode highlight 1:24 - Introduction 1:51 - The Roman Empire and the Byzantine Empire 5:49 - 2,200 Years of Roman History 26:12 - Power, violence, and civil war 47:27 - Edict of Caracalla 1:00:23 - Crisis of the Third Century 1:14:52 - Constantine and the new Roman Empire 1:26:53 - Christianity in the Roman Empire 1:52:21 - Fall of the Western Roman Empire 2:05:17 - Eunuchs, Taxes, and Power 2:30:24 - Emperor Justinian and wars of conquest 2:47:26 - The Arab conquests 3:07:01 - Why the Roman empire survived so long 3:33:08 - Lessons from history *PODCAST LINKS:*

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SPEAKERS

  • Anthony Kaldellis

    guest

    Historian and professor specializing in the Eastern Roman (Byzantine) Empire.

  • Lex Fridman

    host

    Podcast host and AI researcher who interviews academics and public intellectuals on science, history, and philosophy.

EPISODE SUMMARY

In this episode of Lex Fridman Podcast, featuring Anthony Kaldellis and Lex Fridman, The Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire and the Byzantine Empire | Lex Fridman Podcast #498 explores rethinking Byzantium as Rome: governance, identity, resilience, and collapse dynamics Kaldellis contends “Byzantine Empire” is a later scholarly label and that the eastern polity remained legally, culturally, and self-consciously Roman until 1453.

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