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David Eagleman: Neuroplasticity and the Livewired Brain | Lex Fridman Podcast #119

David Eagleman is a neuroscientist at Stanford. Support this podcast by supporting our sponsors: - Athletic Greens: https://athleticgreens.com/lex - BetterHelp: https://betterhelp.com/lex - Cash App: download app & use code "LexPodcast" EPISODE LINKS: David's Website: https://www.eagleman.com/ David's Twitter: https://twitter.com/davideagleman Livewired (book): https://amzn.to/3ba4ezv Incognito (book): https://amzn.to/3lkNASh PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ Full episodes playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrAXtmErZgOdP_8GztsuKi9nrraNbKKp4 Clips playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrAXtmErZgOeciFP3CBCIEElOJeitOr41 OUTLINE: 0:00 - Introduction 5:05 - Livewired 16:39 - Hardware vs software 25:53 - Brain-computer interfaces 35:12 - 2020 is a challenge for neuroplasticity 46:08 - Free will 50:43 - Nature of evil 58:55 - Psychiatry 1:06:28 - GPT-3 1:13:31 - Intelligence in the brain 1:21:51 - Neosensory 1:31:27 - Book recommendations 1:34:07 - Meaning of life 1:36:53 - Advice for young people CONNECT: - Subscribe to this YouTube channel - Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LexFridmanPage - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman - Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman - Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman

Lex FridmanhostDavid Eaglemanguest
Aug 25, 20201h 41mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

David Eagleman Explores Our Livewired Brains, Tech, and Human Potential

  1. Lex Fridman and neuroscientist David Eagleman discuss neuroplasticity and Eagleman’s concept of the “livewired” brain—an organ that is constantly restructuring itself rather than fixed hardware running software. They explore how different brain regions have distinct plasticity windows, how experience sculpts who we become, and why human adaptability makes brain–machine interfaces and new senses possible. The conversation also touches on ethics, law, group behavior, AI’s limits relative to human cognition, and Eagleman’s startup creating wearable devices that stream new information channels into the brain. Throughout, Eagleman argues that our brains remain far more adaptable—and our future far more open—than we usually assume.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

The brain is not hardware running software; it is “liveware.”

Eagleman rejects the hardware/software metaphor, arguing that brain activity constantly rewires physical structure at many levels (synapses, cell structure, biochemistry, gene expression), so function and structure are inseparable and always in flux.

Plasticity varies by brain region and data stability, but persists lifelong.

Visual cortex hardens early because visual input is stable, while motor and somatosensory areas stay flexible longer because bodies and actions constantly change. Plasticity generally diminishes with age, yet older adults can still learn when sufficiently motivated.

Human development is engineered for flexibility, not a blank slate.

We’re born with “half‑baked” but well‑engineered circuitry wired to receive inputs (e.g., vision, language) and then sculpt itself via culture, language, and experience, giving humans far more behavioral diversity than more hardwired animals like alligators.

Our brains can repurpose any information channel and add new “senses.”

Examples like cochlear and retinal implants show the brain can learn Silicon‑Valley‑style input and extract meaning. Eagleman’s NeoSensory wristband demonstrates that sound, infrared, or abstract data (like markets) can be streamed through the skin and become intuitive perceptions.

Invasive BCIs face practical limits; non‑invasive routes may scale better.

Open‑skull surgery carries serious risk and limited consumer appeal, so Eagleman is skeptical of mass-market invasive BCIs beyond medical use. He advocates exploiting existing sensory pathways (especially skin) to interface tech and brain without surgery.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

I coined this new term liveware, which is a system that's constantly reconfiguring itself physically as it learns and adapts to the world around it.

David Eagleman

The brain is trapped in silence and darkness and it's trying to make an internal model of what's going on out there.

David Eagleman

What the wolf does when it gets its leg caught in a trap is chew its leg off and then figure out how to walk on three legs. The Mars rover loses a wheel and dies.

David Eagleman

When you dropped into the world, you had all this different potential... but the day you die, you will be exactly that one person.

David Eagleman

To me, understanding that we are nothing but these dancing cells and synaptic connections would be a numinous experience, better than anything ever proposed in any holy text.

David Eagleman (as read by Lex Fridman from *Sum*)

The concept of the livewired brain and neuroplasticity across the lifespanDifferences between brain regions in plasticity and the role of experienceBrain–computer interfaces, Neuralink, and non-invasive sensory augmentationGroup identity, in‑group/out‑group bias, evil, and legal responsibilityAI and GPT‑3 versus human intelligence, relevance, and goal-driven behaviorUmwelt, new senses, and Eagleman’s company NeoSensoryMeaning, free will, education, and advice for young people in a changing world

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