The Mel Robbins PodcastLive a Healthier, Happier, and Longer Life: The Secrets to Feeling Young Forever
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Intro
- MRMel Robbins
JJ.
- JRJudie Robbins
Yeah. (laughs)
- MRMel Robbins
(laughs) I'm so glad you're back. You went skydiving for the first time at the age of 80.
- JRJudie Robbins
(laughs)
- MRMel Robbins
You got your first tattoo at 85.
- JRJudie Robbins
(laughs) Oh.
- MRMel Robbins
Now that you're 86, what is your exact workout and movement routine?
- JRJudie Robbins
Oh, well, I walk every day, four miles anyhow. It can be five, but it can't be less.
- MRMel Robbins
(laughs) What about water, how much water do you, do you drink?
- JRJudie Robbins
Uh, not enough. I do have kombucha, apple cider vinegar-
- MRMel Robbins
Yes.
- JRJudie Robbins
... and a fresh orange. So, I think to myself, (laughs) "You know, that's liquid." (laughs)
- MRMel Robbins
Yes. (laughs)
- JRJudie Robbins
Oh, I have one other thing to add.
- MRMel Robbins
Tell me.
- JRJudie Robbins
With my smoothies, I always have at least four ginger snaps. (record scratch sound)
- MRMel Robbins
Like cookies? (laughs)
- JRJudie Robbins
Yeah.
- MRMel Robbins
Okay. Four?
- JRJudie Robbins
Well, sometimes more, but... (laughs)
- MRMel Robbins
(laughs) Oh, my God. This is not a health episode, everybody.
- JRJudie Robbins
(laughs)
- MRMel Robbins
A lot of listeners, Judy, are curious, what is your biggest regret now that you're 86? (clock ticking sounds) (intro music) Hey, it's your friend Mel, and today you and I are spending time with one of the smallest, badass-est women I know. I know, again, another word that doesn't really make sense, but you know what I mean. I'm talking about the pint-sized powerhouse, my mother-in-law, Judy Robbins. Now, she clocks in at 4'11", and that's with heels. She is smart, she's entertaining, she's loving, she's fun, and she is almost 87 years old. But she's not even close to being done with life. In fact, Judy does more before 10:00 AM most mornings than I do. And today, she's back on the podcast taking your questions, because when she was here about a year ago, you almost broke the internet (laughs) with the amount of questions that you sent in. You wanted more from Judy. And so I got a stack of them right here. I have no idea (laughs) what she is about to say, which is part of the fun. So pull up a chair, because I invite you to join this deeply fun and profound conversation with me and my mother-in-law, Judy Robbins. And I have no doubt you are gonna love her as much as I do. So please join me in welcoming back the one and only, Judy Robbins. JJ.
- JRJudie Robbins
Yeah.
- MRMel Robbins
(laughs) I'm so glad you're back.
- JRJudie Robbins
It's good to be back, Mel.
- MRMel Robbins
We have so many questions, uh, from listeners around the world from your last appearance on the Mel Robbins podcast. You have been a fan favorite. Does that surprise you?
- JRJudie Robbins
It does. Yes, it does.
- MRMel Robbins
Well, I think it's fantastic and I'm not surprised, and here's why. It's one thing to hear the research and the strategies and the recommendations from a medical doctor or somebody who researches it.
- JRJudie Robbins
Mm-hmm.
- 3:04 – 4:45
This 87-year-old’s workout routine for better health and happiness.
- MRMel Robbins
And so you are an expert in longevity with lived experience, and you're demonstrating something that people want. And so we got so many questions as a follow-up to our conversation about your secret to life, and where I want to go is just dive into some specific things about your daily routine, exercising, the fact that you're so mobile and strong. And a lot of people want to know, you're 86, soon to be 87, when did you start working out? How old were you?
- JRJudie Robbins
I started running I think when I was about 33, 34.
- MRMel Robbins
Okay. Why did you start running at 33?
- JRJudie Robbins
'Cause my husband was running.
- MRMel Robbins
Oh, you were trying to keep up with him? (laughs)
- JRJudie Robbins
(laughs) Hardly, since he's 6'2". But he decided to start running for whatever reason. I think running was becoming kind of the thing to do. Uh, you probably don't remember way back, Jim Fix-
- MRMel Robbins
No idea who that is.
- JRJudie Robbins
No. Well, he was like the first runner, and it just became kind of the thing to do, I guess.
- MRMel Robbins
Gotcha. So, that would be well over 50 years ago.
- JRJudie Robbins
Yeah.
- MRMel Robbins
So we're talking the early '70s, if I'm doing my math right?
- JRJudie Robbins
Yeah, yeah.
- MRMel Robbins
So in the early '70s, you were in your mid-30s, you started working out, and then were you just consistently working out all the time once you started running?
- JRJudie Robbins
Well, I have the same pattern today that I did back then, in that Ken and I had these books on tape, which you could order them from this company, and they came in a box, a whole book, and they were the cassettes.
- MRMel Robbins
Mm-hmm.
- JRJudie Robbins
And we would put the cassette in... I would listen to history and things that,
- 4:45 – 7:31
One easy trick to feel more motivated in the morning.
- JRJudie Robbins
uh, that I wasn't going to read.
- MRMel Robbins
Right.
- JRJudie Robbins
And, but then when I started to get into books like, uh, you know, novels and things, thank God, I wanted to get up every morning so I could listen (laughs) to the next chapter.
- MRMel Robbins
Ooh, that's a good little hack. And so you said you still do the same thing-
- JRJudie Robbins
I still do the same thing.
- MRMel Robbins
... over 50 years later.
- JRJudie Robbins
Yeah.
- MRMel Robbins
What does that mean?
- JRJudie Robbins
I listen to a book every time I walk, and I also read a book. So I always have two books going.
- MRMel Robbins
Um, a lot of, uh, listeners around the world want to know, now that you're 86, what's your exact routine when it comes to exercising your body?
- JRJudie Robbins
Oh, well, I walk every day, uh, uh, four miles anyhow.
- MRMel Robbins
And how do you know it's four miles?
- JRJudie Robbins
'Cause I look at my Apple Watch. (laughs)
- MRMel Robbins
Gotcha. And does it have to be four miles?
- JRJudie Robbins
No. It can be five, but it can't be less.
- MRMel Robbins
(laughs) I love that you said, "No, it can be more, but it can't be less."
- JRJudie Robbins
No.
- MRMel Robbins
Why can't it be less than four miles a day?
- JRJudie Robbins
I don't know, but then I get guilt, you know, then I have to walk someplace else to make it up to be that.
- MRMel Robbins
Okay, so for sure you are out there walking four miles a day.
- JRJudie Robbins
And then I try and do yoga, at least once, maybe twice, because I think it's really important if you're a walker or a runner to do something like yoga, uh, to stretch.
- MRMel Robbins
And you mean once or twice a week?
- JRJudie Robbins
Yeah.
- MRMel Robbins
Okay, so once or twice a week you're going to a workout class, uh, and then every single day you try to get four miles in.
- JRJudie Robbins
Yeah.
- MRMel Robbins
Um, do you ever work out with friends?
- JRJudie Robbins
No, not really. I mean, I'll walk with friends, yeah, definitely. If, if somebody wants to take a walk, I'll walk.
- MRMel Robbins
Okay.
- JRJudie Robbins
As long as they walk as far as I do.
- MRMel Robbins
Okay.
- 7:31 – 9:14
How to find the energy to exercise every day, even in old age.
- MRMel Robbins
made it part of their daily routine to get outside and even just get in a couple mile walk? What would you say to them when they're like, "Uh, why?"
- JRJudie Robbins
'Cause, first of all, you aren't as tired.
- MRMel Robbins
Hmm.
- JRJudie Robbins
So I would say that would be the impetus more than anything else.
- MRMel Robbins
Mm-hmm.
- JRJudie Robbins
It gives you more energy. I mean, no doubt about it, we all want to take a snooze, you know, like at 3:30, 4:00 in the afternoon if we can. But I think overall, it creates energy rather than dissipates. And I think that older people think that, "If I'm gonna do that, I'm gonna be more tired." Do you know what I mean?
- MRMel Robbins
Yeah. You know what?
- JRJudie Robbins
But it's not. It's the opposite.
- MRMel Robbins
I think that's a great point, 'cause you're right. If you have never made it part of your routine to just get out, take a walk, couple miles, you do think it takes a lot of energy-
- JRJudie Robbins
Right.
- MRMel Robbins
...and it's gonna drain you. But you're right, it's the exact opposite.
- JRJudie Robbins
No, 'cause it, your endorphins. You're building on your endorphins, and it creates... When you come home from a walk, you don't want to put your feet up and take a nap.
- MRMel Robbins
That's true.
- JRJudie Robbins
You want to do something, you know?
- MRMel Robbins
I, I love this wisdom, because I've known you now for 30 years. And I've always thought about you as somebody who is the most energetic person in the world. And you have always gone out for four-mile, not less, walk.
- JRJudie Robbins
(laughs)
- MRMel Robbins
Every day since I've ever met you, rain, shine. You'll put on a little snow suit with little spiky things on your shoes-
- JRJudie Robbins
(laughs)
- MRMel Robbins
...and go marching out into the Vermont winter. And I'd always heard people kind of refer to you almost like a little Energizer Bunny. And I think a lot of times people have given, like, they've given credit to the fact that you are a petite
- 9:14 – 11:30
What a daily walk can do for your mental and physical well-being.
- MRMel Robbins
person.
- JRJudie Robbins
Mm.
- MRMel Robbins
But I think it's because you've prioritized making this get outside, get your body moving, and go for a walk every day for decades as a source of your energy.
- JRJudie Robbins
Well, I think also, in fairness, when you start anything, it becomes a habit. I don't care whether it's having one or two glasses of wine at night, or whether it's getting up in the morning and running.
- MRMel Robbins
Mm-hmm.
- JRJudie Robbins
It becomes a habit. And you miss it if you don't do it.
- MRMel Robbins
That's true. And I love that there's a couple tips already, which is get an audiobook.
- JRJudie Robbins
Mm-hmm.
- MRMel Robbins
Because it will help you want to get out the door-
- JRJudie Robbins
It will.
- MRMel Robbins
...and listen to it.
- JRJudie Robbins
Definitely.
- MRMel Robbins
And only listen to it when you're walking. That way, it's that motivator. You know, people do say, "Judy, how do you stay motivated?" Do you think, do you even need motivation at this point?
- JRJudie Robbins
You mean motivation to exercise?
- MRMel Robbins
Yeah.
- JRJudie Robbins
Or motivation...
- MRMel Robbins
Yeah, motivation to exercise.
- JRJudie Robbins
I th- Yeah, I do. I mean, I think that probably I'll fall apart if I don't. (laughs)
- MRMel Robbins
(laughs) So it's sort of a negative consequence.
- JRJudie Robbins
Yeah. (laughs)
- MRMel Robbins
"I don't want to be tired and low energy, so I better get my rear end out there-
- JRJudie Robbins
Yeah.
- MRMel Robbins
...and march, so I have energy for today." Lotta listeners, Judy, are curious. What do you eat? Can you walk us through, what do you have for breakfast? Then what do you have for lunch, and then what do you have for dinner? And, and just to put it in perspective, if you didn't know, what are you, 4'11"? How, how tall are you? 4'11". Okay, so she's a very petite person, and, uh, I want you to just put that in context. So what do you typically have for breakfast?
- JRJudie Robbins
Well, (laughs) I hate to say this since you've already told everybody that you shouldn't have your cup of coffee for 90 minutes.
- MRMel Robbins
E- e- that-
- JRJudie Robbins
Guess what? I do.
- MRMel Robbins
Okay.
- JRJudie Robbins
I get up in the morning and turn on my hot tub, as I've said, I mean, my, um, sauna, and I get back in bed and I have a cup of coffee.
- MRMel Robbins
Wonderful.
- JRJudie Robbins
I'm really not a breakfast eater.
- 11:30 – 13:30
Judie’s smoothie recipe to build muscles even at 87.
- MRMel Robbins
smoothie?
- JRJudie Robbins
Okay. I put in, um, ice.
- MRMel Robbins
Mm-hmm.
- JRJudie Robbins
Metrix, a whole package of Metrix.
- MRMel Robbins
So, meaning the protein brand Metrix?
- JRJudie Robbins
Yes, the, yes.
- MRMel Robbins
Is there a flavor you like?
- JRJudie Robbins
Vanilla.
- MRMel Robbins
Okay, vanilla Metrix. I love that you're taking a bodybuilder protein mix-
- JRJudie Robbins
(laughs)
- MRMel Robbins
...and pouring it in as an 86 soon-to-be-87-year-old woman.
- JRJudie Robbins
I didn't know it was. Is that what it is, a body meal?
- MRMel Robbins
I think so.
- JRJudie Robbins
I've, I've been taking Metrix for years.
- MRMel Robbins
Okay. So you have a protein smoothie. What do you put in there?
- JRJudie Robbins
Kale.
- MRMel Robbins
Kale.
- JRJudie Robbins
And if I can, sprouts.
- MRMel Robbins
Okay.
- JRJudie Robbins
Um, I love sprouts, and I can get them fresh when I'm in Florida, which is great, but I do it, the sprouts here. And then blueberries and strawberries.
- MRMel Robbins
Yum.
- JRJudie Robbins
And coconut water.
- MRMel Robbins
Okay. Then you blend that sucker up. All right, great. So then what do you have for lunch?
- JRJudie Robbins
I graze.
- MRMel Robbins
Okay. Wait, wait a minute. This is not that healthy. Okay.
- JRJudie Robbins
(laughs)
- MRMel Robbins
What do you mean you graze?
- JRJudie Robbins
I... You know, if I have some chicken salad, I take it out.
- MRMel Robbins
So, are you like a stand up-
- JRJudie Robbins
Yeah.
- 13:30 – 16:46
You will never believe what Judie has every morning with breakfast.
- JRJudie Robbins
ginger snap.
- MRMel Robbins
What?
- JRJudie Robbins
My brother is the same way. Every morning he has a metric smoothie, and we are addicted to ginger snaps. I don't know where it started. Obviously, in our youth.
- MRMel Robbins
What? Four?
- JRJudie Robbins
Well, sometimes more, but... (laughs)
- MRMel Robbins
(laughs) Oh, my God. Oh, my God, you're so fun. See, this is why you enjoy your life.
- JRJudie Robbins
Well, I, yeah. I mean, now why not?
- MRMel Robbins
That's true. That's true, because we get into these zones, I think especially when you're, you know, your grandkids age. And then I think about myself, and I'm in my 50s, and Sawyer's in her mid-20s, and we're always like onto the next exercise, and doing the fast, and doing this thing, and you've always just enjoyed yourself. I think that's a really important thing, like since I've known you, at least in terms of you're never on some weird-ass diet or like restricting yourself in any way. At least it doesn't seem like it.
- JRJudie Robbins
Well, when I tr- You know, I get these guilt things 'cause you guys all do these restrictions.
- MRMel Robbins
(laughs)
- JRJudie Robbins
Christopher does, you know, 75 hard or, you know, "You're gonna give up." And I say to Christopher, "Maybe I should stop drinking." And Christopher says, "What? At 86? I wouldn't stop drinking."
- MRMel Robbins
(laughs)
- JRJudie Robbins
I go, "Okay. Guess what? I won't." (laughs)
- MRMel Robbins
(laughs) I've already chilled the wine for tonight, Jude. Um, what do you have for dinner?
- JRJudie Robbins
I usually have chicken or fish.
- MRMel Robbins
Okay. You're-
- JRJudie Robbins
I'm not much of a meat eater.
- MRMel Robbins
How come? Gives you gas?
- JRJudie Robbins
No. I just... More and more when I wasn't eating meat, I started to think about the animals, I guess.
- MRMel Robbins
Mm-hmm.
- JRJudie Robbins
And if I go to your house for dinner-
- MRMel Robbins
Yeah.
- JRJudie Robbins
... and you serve meat, I will eat it.
- MRMel Robbins
Right.
- JRJudie Robbins
But I won't order it at a restaurant, and I, I would prefer not to cook it.
- MRMel Robbins
Yeah.
- JRJudie Robbins
Every now and then I will.
- MRMel Robbins
What about dessert? What's your, your feelings on dessert?
- JRJudie Robbins
Well, I, I like cookies.
- MRMel Robbins
Yes.
- 16:46 – 18:34
How Judie starts every day to jumpstart her metabolism.
- JRJudie Robbins
orange.
- MRMel Robbins
Gotcha.
- JRJudie Robbins
So, I think to myself, you know, "That's liquid." (laughs)
- MRMel Robbins
Yes. Well, but also sort of like nature's Drano.
- JRJudie Robbins
Yeah. (laughs)
- MRMel Robbins
So when you have, you know, what is commonly referred to as farmer's switchel, which my grandmother also drank. Grandma Eileen also started every single day on the farm with warm water, lemon juice, apple cider vinegar, and a little bit of honey. And I, honest to God, man, she went out, she went out kicking and screaming.
- JRJudie Robbins
Yeah.
- MRMel Robbins
Like close to 100 years old, tough as nails. Maybe the secret is in that apple cider vinegar.
- JRJudie Robbins
They say it cures everything, including toe fungus. (laughs)
- MRMel Robbins
Do you have toe fungus? Like, should we be worried about this?
- JRJudie Robbins
No. (laughs)
- MRMel Robbins
Awesome. So, um, what would you say to someone who's listening or who has forwarded this to their loved one who's getting a little older? So they're listening at the recommendation maybe of their daughter, or their son, or somebody who cares about them. They haven't been as active as you have. They feel inspired. How would you recommend that they start if they don't know where or what to start with to get active again even though they're, you know, a little older?
- JRJudie Robbins
Well, it dep- I think it depends on if they're a social person.
- MRMel Robbins
Okay.
- JRJudie Robbins
Um, if they like to be with people, they can always find a gym class.
- MRMel Robbins
Oh.
- JRJudie Robbins
And I would... You know, if you'd like to be with people and they've never done anything, find a, find a gym class, and go to it, and be with other people, and see what they're doing, whether it's yoga, or whether it's a yoga barre, or something.
- MRMel Robbins
Yeah.
- JRJudie Robbins
And if you're...... w- more sedentary or happy with yourself, then just go out and take a walk, you know?
- MRMel Robbins
So true.
- JRJudie Robbins
On a beautiful day. If it's raining, then don't.
- MRMel Robbins
You know, you're one of the most social
- 18:34 – 20:39
Judies #1 tip for keeping connection and community at any age.
- MRMel Robbins
people I know, and you seem to have fun wherever you go. Um, how do you keep such an active social life?
- JRJudie Robbins
Well, it's important that you reach out because you can't sit home and wait for people to call you. And, um, I really learned that from you after Ken died-
- MRMel Robbins
Mm-hmm.
- JRJudie Robbins
... and I had nothing on my calendar.
- MRMel Robbins
Mm-hmm.
- JRJudie Robbins
And you said to me, "Call somebody so you have something on your calendar." And that, that was such good advice, Mel. And so, I stay active if somebody doesn't call me or I wanna have a dinner party and nothing's going on, then I create a dinner party. And, you know, more and more as you read about longevity, it used to be the Mediterranean diet, exercise, but now, the more I read, social is becoming first, then comes the diet and the exercise. Because I think being lonely or being by yourself causes depression.
- MRMel Robbins
Mm-hmm.
- JRJudie Robbins
And it also... you start to doubt yourself.
- MRMel Robbins
Yeah.
- JRJudie Robbins
When you're around people, you get built up. People tell you you look attractive, or they wanna be with you. And so, you feel good about yourself.
- MRMel Robbins
You know, it's interesting. Um, you have always made an effort. How long have you been a widow?
- JRJudie Robbins
18 y- 19 years this year.
- MRMel Robbins
19 years?
- JRJudie Robbins
This year.
- MRMel Robbins
Ken's been gone 19 years?
- JRJudie Robbins
Is that right? 20... 2/06? '06? That's 19-
- MRMel Robbins
Holy cane. Tha- that close. I mean, that's incredible.
- JRJudie Robbins
I know.
- MRMel Robbins
And I remember that you always made an effort, and always kept up, and always reached out, and always were planning things. And, you know, that advice that I gave you about putting something in the calendar was just this thing that I've always felt, which is when I look at a blank calendar, I feel like a loser.
- 20:39 – 23:18
How to use your calendar to find more meaning in your life.
- MRMel Robbins
I start to spiral, as you said. I start to panic like I don't have anything to do, and then I start to feel like everybody's got plans but me. And so making an effort to have something in the calendar that you can look forward to, even if it's two weeks from now-
- JRJudie Robbins
Exactly.
- MRMel Robbins
... like helps you from that spiral. Um, but you recently moved to a community where there's a lot of programming and it's more of a retirement community. What has been the difference that you've seen in putting yourself in a community where the whole point of it is to be with people that are retired and that are older, and to be in a community where there's stuff going on?
- JRJudie Robbins
Well, first of all, you know, as my grandchildren call me, with the FOMO.
- MRMel Robbins
Yes, you have FOMO.
- JRJudie Robbins
I am a FOMO, and when my friends started moving to this community-
- MRMel Robbins
Yeah.
- JRJudie Robbins
... I mean, I... after a dinner party with one of my friends, and she said she was going, I woke up the next morning, I said, "I'm coming." (laughs)
- MRMel Robbins
(laughs) Well, I think a lot of people look at those retirement communities and they're like, "Oh, I don't wanna... uh."
- JRJudie Robbins
Oh, no.
- MRMel Robbins
"Don't put me in one of those." And I watched my grandmother, when my grandfather died, move into one, and all of a sudden, it was like, like retirement camp. I couldn't believe how busy she was and happy she was and-
- JRJudie Robbins
Oh, my God. Yeah.
- MRMel Robbins
So what have you noticed as somebody who's... was actually already crazy busy?
- JRJudie Robbins
First of all, there's so much to choose from, to do physically.
- MRMel Robbins
Mm-hmm.
- JRJudie Robbins
I mean, they have pickleball on grass.
- MRMel Robbins
Mm-hmm.
- JRJudie Robbins
Now, is that brilliant? Why don't more people have pickleball on grass? But anyway, i- it's also a great feeling of security because I have a lot of friends that live around me and I've met people... When I moved in, the second day, I had orchids that were delivered from, you know, across the street. She walked across the street, "Hi, my name's Mary blah, blah, blah." Um, if I didn't come out of my house for four or five hours, somebody would come and check on me.
- MRMel Robbins
Wow.
- JRJudie Robbins
That's how it... how it feels. Living here now in your house-
- MRMel Robbins
Yes.
- JRJudie Robbins
... on 25 acres-
- MRMel Robbins
Where you used to live, yeah.
- JRJudie Robbins
... where I used to live, I mean, I could have been here for days. And where I used to live in Florida, even though I lived in a community-
- MRMel Robbins
Yeah.
- JRJudie Robbins
... everybody did their own business, you know? I could have been flat out for a couple days and no one would have known the difference.
- MRMel Robbins
Right.
- JRJudie Robbins
It's very different when you're in a community like, uh, I'm in now.
- MRMel Robbins
What advice do you have for keeping friendships so strong?
- JRJudie Robbins
Reaching out to them.
- 23:18 – 25:00
What we all get wrong when it comes to fostering friendships.
- JRJudie Robbins
And I do think that the older you get, the more you realize the people you really want to be with. So you don't feel compelled if, you know, Mary invites you for dinner and Mary's okay, but she's not one of your favorites.
- MRMel Robbins
Right.
- JRJudie Robbins
I used to say, "Okay, sure. I'll come." Now, I don't.
- MRMel Robbins
How come?
- JRJudie Robbins
Because I don't want to feel that I have to have Mary back to my house.
- MRMel Robbins
Oh.
- JRJudie Robbins
I mean, I have some wonderful friends, and those are the people I want to spend the most time with, and I have a lot of friends.
- MRMel Robbins
So are you saying that the older that you get, if you can not feel... fill your calendar with the obligatory-
- JRJudie Robbins
Exactly.
- MRMel Robbins
... things, but take that same time and be intentional-
- JRJudie Robbins
Quality.
- MRMel Robbins
... about picking up the phone and calling people, whether it's family or it's people that you really, really love hanging out with,-
- JRJudie Robbins
Right.
- MRMel Robbins
... that's gonna keep them strong?
- JRJudie Robbins
I mean, I used to have dinner parties all the time for eight, 10 people.
- MRMel Robbins
Mm-hmm.
- JRJudie Robbins
Now, six is like the perfect number.
- MRMel Robbins
Why is six people over the perfect number?
- JRJudie Robbins
Because six really talk to each other a- all together.
- MRMel Robbins
Mm.
- JRJudie Robbins
You know, you don't have two people talking over here and two over here. So by the end of the evening, you really feel so...... satisfied 'cause you've really been with these people.
- MRMel Robbins
It's true. It's true.
- JRJudie Robbins
You know.
- MRMel Robbins
So you've had a lot of adventure in your life, and I think, uh, there's a lot of questions that people have about it. Can you talk about what you did after your husband Ken died? Because I think this is advice that is relevant, not only when you lose somebody that you love, but also if you go through a divorce,
- 25:00 – 26:03
How to deal with losing someone you love.
- MRMel Robbins
or you have some major change that happens in your life that makes you start to wonder who you are or what your next chapter's going to be. So why don't you tell everybody what you did and how it changed your life after Ken died?
- JRJudie Robbins
Well, the first thing I did was (laughs) I rented an apartment for three months in New York. Oh my god, it was so lonely because you realize that when you're in New York City and everybody's going one place or another and you have no place to go. (laughs)
- MRMel Robbins
Mm.
- JRJudie Robbins
So I signed up, um, for art classes at the Art Students League.
- MRMel Robbins
Okay.
- JRJudie Robbins
So I had a reason to go someplace and come home or go to the movies. Um, and then I took myself on a bike trip to New Zealand, so I was with other people.
- MRMel Robbins
You know, one way that you've stayed active, Jude, is you plan these trips, like bike trips with guides and with friends, like through your 70s and 80s.
- JRJudie Robbins
Y- you just have to make yourself
- 26:03 – 28:13
Plan a trip; it’s so incredibly important.
- JRJudie Robbins
be around other people. You can't stay home and, and feel sorry for yourself because nobody else is feeling sorry for you.
- MRMel Robbins
Can you tell us a little bit about why, especially after Ken died, you started spending your winters in Cambodia and volunteering there?
- JRJudie Robbins
Well, I went there on a bike trip.
- MRMel Robbins
Yeah, but this is where it gets interesting. You decide that the next year you're gonna go back to Cambodia-
- JRJudie Robbins
(laughs)
- MRMel Robbins
... and you created an experience on your own where you reached out to an elementary school, and you arranged to become a tutor to teach English to elementary school students.
- JRJudie Robbins
And I just said, you know, "I'm gonna come back and teach English." Even though I wasn't a teacher, I knew how to talk. (laughs)
- MRMel Robbins
(laughs)
- JRJudie Robbins
And, and the other thing that I learned in Est was how to make a fool out of yourself. If you can make a fool out of yourself, you can teach English even though you've never been a teacher.
- MRMel Robbins
And then you reached out to this NGO, Cambodian Living Arts, to say you'd like to get involved, and you get on a plane, and you fly to Cambodia, and you're in your late 70s, and you've never done anything like this before, and you're gonna live there. What was it like to land in a foreign country knowing you were gonna live there? You were, 'cause everybody that knew you were like, "You're crazy. What if something happens? What if you have a heart attack? You're gonna be halfway across the world. You're gonna do this on your own. How is this gonna work?" I mean, were you ever scared? Like, did you land and go, "What the hell am I doing?"
- JRJudie Robbins
I don't think I was scared. I think I was excited.
- MRMel Robbins
Hmm.
- JRJudie Robbins
Um, I love adventure. I love new things. And I mean, what else was I gonna do? Stay at home? It's just, this was something different and new, and, and it wasn't real hardship. I mean, I was staying in a hotel. It's not like I was camping out in the streets. (laughs)
- MRMel Robbins
(laughs) That's true.
- JRJudie Robbins
So.
- MRMel Robbins
Yeah, but I, I just wanna say that it took some balls-
- JRJudie Robbins
It did. It did.
- MRMel Robbins
... to do something like
- 28:13 – 30:15
Why volunteering can help you find purpose and passion.
- MRMel Robbins
that. It takes a lot to get on a plane and fly halfway around the world and just go, "I'm gonna go live in Cambodia for three months, and I'm gonna create my own volunteer program, and I'm gonna just do that and not really know anybody, and I'm gonna figure it out." And then next thing you know, you have a whole community there.
- JRJudie Robbins
Well, you know, it's so interesting that you ask this question because, actually, I put this down in a journal the other day. I think I had a very difficult childhood-
- MRMel Robbins
Hmm.
- JRJudie Robbins
... and it gave me courage that I would not have had if my childhood had been all roses. So I only went two years to college, and there wasn't any money to send me beyond that. And I even, when I was writing in my journal, I questioned how I did it. I just moved into Chicago at age 19 and got a job at American Airlines answering phones. And then after I was there for a while, I went upstairs and interviewed to the number one, um, advertising agency at the time and got a job as a receptionist. And then when I was there, I decided I'd go to secretarial school, and then after a year there, I decided to move to San Francisco. So, you know, when I was in high school, they had only boy cheerleaders for 100 years. I decided we should have girls. (laughs) I somehow got the petition going and created, and we had girl cheerleaders. And from then on, New Trier High Schools had girl cheerleaders. So I've always been pushing myself into something that's a little scary.
- MRMel Robbins
I love that. I think we all need a little of that.
- JRJudie Robbins
Mm-hmm.
- MRMel Robbins
Call those-
- JRJudie Robbins
Push.
- MRMel Robbins
Uh-
- JRJudie Robbins
Just a little push.
- MRMel Robbins
Yeah, a little JJ, go-getter.
- JRJudie Robbins
Yeah.
- MRMel Robbins
So what's your message to someone who's really lonely and lost, especially
- 30:15 – 31:22
If you feel overwhelmed with grief right now, listen to this.
- MRMel Robbins
after they've suddenly lost somebody that they love?
- JRJudie Robbins
Well, they should, first of all, they should reach out to their closest friends if they can. I think volunteering is probably one of the more gratifying things that you can do. You won't be alone, and you are gonna be with people that probably aren't as well off as you.... so you come away saying, "Mm, you know, things aren't so bad. Look at who I just was with in hospice. She's not even gonna be around in another year."
- MRMel Robbins
Mm-hmm.
- JRJudie Robbins
So I think volunteering, e- even if it's little kids or if it's hospice or anything that you can do to take yourself out of yourself.
- MRMel Robbins
Incredible. You went skydiving for the first time at the age of 80.
- JRJudie Robbins
(laughs)
- MRMel Robbins
(laughs) How did that happen?
- JRJudie Robbins
I don't know. (laughs) I don't know. I, I can't remember. One of the boys, was it Christopher?
- MRMel Robbins
So FOMO?
- JRJudie Robbins
(laughs)
- MRMel Robbins
You're basically saying one of your sons was gonna skydive, and you were like, "I'm in."
- JRJudie Robbins
Oh, I know. It's because when I
- 31:22 – 33:27
The story about how Judie went skydiving at 85.
- JRJudie Robbins
was in New Zealand on that bike trip, Heath had bungee jumped.
- MRMel Robbins
Uh-huh.
- JRJudie Robbins
And so I decided that if he's gonna bungee jump, I'm gonna bungee jump. (laughs)
- MRMel Robbins
You're insane. Okay. (laughs)
- JRJudie Robbins
So I, I don't know. I, I must have gone-
- MRMel Robbins
Did you like bungee jumping?
- JRJudie Robbins
Oh, I loved it. It was-
- MRMel Robbins
You did?
- JRJudie Robbins
Oh, yeah. It was so great.
- MRMel Robbins
What was so great about it?
- JRJudie Robbins
Well, it's kinda scary when you really decide to go, you know, and then they start counting and you take off, but I, I like things that kinda scare me. I don't like things that make me dizzy.
- MRMel Robbins
Okay.
- JRJudie Robbins
But I, I kinda like scary things.
- MRMel Robbins
You got your first tattoo at 85.
- JRJudie Robbins
(laughs)
- MRMel Robbins
Can you tell us the story, and what did you get?
- JRJudie Robbins
Yeah, that's a nice story. So my really, really close friend in Florida, um, (clears throat) was dying last March. And so I went and saw her 'cause I was- I knew I wasn't gonna see her again, uh, 'cause I was leaving. And I said to Diana, I said, "Diana, do you believe in life after death?" She said, "Oh, yeah." I said, "Really? (laughs) What, what do you believe in?" She said, "Oh, I'm gonna be a star." And I thought, "That is the most brilliant thing I've ever heard." (laughs) I mean, I'm not particularly religious. W- we all wonder what's gonna happen, and I thought, "It makes so much sense that we're all gonna be stars." That's why there's billions of stars. And then, of course, I took it a step further. I thought, "Well, if I'm a star, I can go and visit my husband. (laughs) I can see my parents. I can move around."
- MRMel Robbins
Right, shooting star.
- JRJudie Robbins
So I said to Sawyer... Was it Sawyer? Yeah. I said to Sawyer-
- MRMel Robbins
Who's my daughter and your granddaughter.
- JRJudie Robbins
Your daughter. I said, "You know, I'm not one into tattoos, but I think I'm gonna get a little tattoo with a star."
- MRMel Robbins
Mm-hmm.
- JRJudie Robbins
And Sawyer said, "Well, then I'm gonna get one."
- MRMel Robbins
(laughs) and then we were like, "Well, then we're gonna get one."
- JRJudie Robbins
And then Sawi- then Kendall wanted one. And next thing, your whole family said, "Well, we're all gonna get one."
- MRMel Robbins
Yep.
- JRJudie Robbins
So I got one, and I have a little
- 33:27 – 34:34
Our family tattoo and its sentimental meaning.
- JRJudie Robbins
one on my... It's very small. Y- I mean, you really have to look for it, but it's there. And it's basically a picture of a planet, and it has three stars.
- MRMel Robbins
Mm-hmm.
- JRJudie Robbins
And it has, one is my husband, Diana's at the top, and the last one is John, who I'm with now, who will be the last star.
- MRMel Robbins
Aw. That's beautiful. Um, you did a psychedelic journey-
- JRJudie Robbins
Mm-hmm.
- MRMel Robbins
... um, in a therapeutic setting with me and my husband Cr- or your son, Chris, my husband, and Sawyer and Kendall, um, at the age of 85. What did you learn from that MDMA-guided journey?
- JRJudie Robbins
I learned, first of all, that my granddaughters loved me so much that... (laughs) That was, that was pretty amazing. I think... I mean, it... They say it- it's a love drug, which I didn't even realize, but wow. I mean, I really felt it. It was probably the most... Is the word reinforcing, of
- 34:34 – 37:01
What Judie learned during her psychedelic trip.
- JRJudie Robbins
who I was and that, you know, I'm not alone and that I'm, I'm very much loved.
- MRMel Robbins
What are some of your top life lessons that you've learned in 86 years?
- JRJudie Robbins
Well, I think I've learned a lot more as I got older, because I was... I've always been energetic, but I think I've always kind of wanted to be the center of attention.
- MRMel Robbins
Hmm.
- JRJudie Robbins
And now, at my age, and I think I probably started this a couple years ago, I'm much more patient. I'm much more interested in listening to what somebody else has to say. Whereas before, I would barely let you finish whatever your subject was before I had something to tell you about me. Um, so tell me, what was the question again?
- MRMel Robbins
Sure. Some of the life lessons you've learned in your-
- JRJudie Robbins
Yeah.
- MRMel Robbins
... 86 years.
- JRJudie Robbins
I think listening is probably one of the most incredible things, that if you can learn to listen to other people and listen to yourself, that you'll, you'll be content.
- MRMel Robbins
And now that you're 86 years old, what have you stopped caring about?
- JRJudie Robbins
Well, I still care about what I look like. (laughs)
- MRMel Robbins
(laughs)
- JRJudie Robbins
I mean, I don't go to the grocery store without makeup on.
- MRMel Robbins
Really?
- JRJudie Robbins
No. I mean, I don't put eyeliner on or anything like that, but I do put... I go for a walk, and the stuff that I put on my face, um, you know, is- has sunblock and it has color in it.
- MRMel Robbins
Okay. What do you put on your face? Everyone's gonna wanna know.
- JRJudie Robbins
Oh, it's called CC.
- MRMel Robbins
I have no idea. CC?
- JRJudie Robbins
It's... The letter CC. You can get it at Ulta.
- MRMel Robbins
Okay.
- JRJudie Robbins
And it has 50 in it.
- MRMel Robbins
Okay.
- JRJudie Robbins
And you just put it on. It has color in it.
- MRMel Robbins
Okay.
- JRJudie Robbins
You can get all different colors.
- MRMel Robbins
Yeah.
- JRJudie Robbins
And-... right away, you don't look like (laughs) do-you-know-what.
- MRMel Robbins
Okay. Okay. So you haven't stopped caring what you look like.
- JRJudie Robbins
No. No, I haven't.
- MRMel Robbins
But maybe that's a good thing 'cause you take care of yourself.
- 37:01 – 39:26
Why do we lie to make other people happy?
- JRJudie Robbins
and years and years and years, it was very important-
- MRMel Robbins
Mm-hmm.
- JRJudie Robbins
... what people thought about me.
- MRMel Robbins
Mm-hmm.
- JRJudie Robbins
And I probably went overboard to get people to have good thoughts about me or like me. When I was little, I was a t- incredible liar, and I think I lied because I wanted... I had these wonderful tales (laughs) to tell.
- MRMel Robbins
(laughs)
- JRJudie Robbins
And I think that if I told them, they would like me better. And now, I've created who I am, and, you know, the package is done and wrapped up. (laughs)
- MRMel Robbins
(laughs) Do you remember, like, a moment or some... 'cause I know, like, every, nobody wants to care, nobody wants to worry about what other people think about them, and yet it's a hard thing to teach yourself to really care more about what you think of yourself-
- JRJudie Robbins
Mm-hmm.
- MRMel Robbins
... than what other people think of you. Is there any advice that you have about how somebody who is in that stage of people pleasing or lying or feeling really insecure about who they are, how they could really learn how to care more about how they feel about themselves?
- JRJudie Robbins
They could listen to some of your podcasts.
- MRMel Robbins
(laughs) Oh, Judy.
- JRJudie Robbins
I'm serious.
- MRMel Robbins
It would help.
- JRJudie Robbins
I'm serious. Or some of your books. I mean, read some of these, uh, books about yourself or how to make yourself a-
- MRMel Robbins
Mm-hmm.
- JRJudie Robbins
... a better person.
- MRMel Robbins
Yeah. That's true because when you start to prioritize your health and you start to give back to other people and you start to really spend time doing some of the things that you've always thought about doing, whether it's taking a painting class or-
- JRJudie Robbins
Right.
- MRMel Robbins
... writ- taking up a journaling practice, or seeing yourself getting out and walking every day, you do become proud of yourself. And when you're so busy trying to impress other people-
- JRJudie Robbins
Exactly.
- MRMel Robbins
... I think deep down, you're not really proud of yourself. And so that's one way that you can stop caring so much about other people, is really do invest the time in bettering yourself and your health and learning more and giving back, and you'll start to notice you're proud of y- yourself.
- JRJudie Robbins
Yeah, for sure.
- MRMel Robbins
Um, you know, what do you wish you knew when you were younger that you do, that you know now?
- JRJudie Robbins
Oh, I certainly wish that I had concentrated
- 39:26 – 41:03
Judie’s biggest regret over 80 years.
- JRJudie Robbins
about learning in school. I never cared about learning. I just cared about having a good time-
- MRMel Robbins
(laughs)
- JRJudie Robbins
... all through grammar school, high school, right through college. I, and now, I think that's why I read so much, 'cause I never did when I was young, and, uh, it's just, y- it's, it's such wasted time that I... I mean, I went to such a good high school, and all I did was have a good time.
- MRMel Robbins
Um, what is your biggest regret now that you're 86?
- JRJudie Robbins
That's probably it, is not learning all the things that I... I mean, um, I'm very street smart-
- MRMel Robbins
Hmm. Definitely.
- JRJudie Robbins
... but I'm not book smart.
- MRMel Robbins
I think that's a story you tell yourself. You are one of the most well-read people I know.
- JRJudie Robbins
I know, but-
- MRMel Robbins
Judy, you tell this story that you're not, that you're not, y- like, street smart, book smart. I think you're very smart. I, I wish you would change that story.
- JRJudie Robbins
I know. Well, I know other people who've said that too, but (laughs) but I live in my own shell, so... (laughs)
- MRMel Robbins
(laughs)
- JRJudie Robbins
I know what I know and what I don't know.
- MRMel Robbins
Okay. Well, you're very humble in that regard.
- JRJudie Robbins
(laughs)
- MRMel Robbins
But you are one of the most well-read people I know. You forward me more New York Times articles than The New York Times does to read.
- JRJudie Robbins
(laughs)
- MRMel Robbins
So yes, you are very well-read. Could you speak directly to the person who's listening to you right now? And, you know, maybe they feel like the best days of their life are behind them. What would you say to them?
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If you feel like the best days of your life are behind you, do this.
- MRMel Robbins
- JRJudie Robbins
I would say that when you lay, when you wake up in the morning, you say to yourself, "I am so grateful that my eyes opened, and that I can swallow, and I can get out of bed, brush my teeth, and start a day. How lucky am I?" I don't care whether you have to reach for a cane or a walker or anything. The fact that you have the privilege to still be alive, I am very, very grateful for that.
- MRMel Robbins
And how about somebody who feels like they're really behind in life? You know, you've got three sons, and they've been in various stages in their careers, and you've got, you know, all these grandkids. And so you've seen, not only in your own life, but you've seen in the lives of family members and people that you care about, that people can start to feel like, you know, "I'm not as successful as I should be," or, "I'm not... my marriage isn't," or whatever it may be. "I'm not where I should be." What's your advice when you see somebody who feels behind in life?
- JRJudie Robbins
I would start probably looking at books about how to better yourself emotionally, you know, not necessarily, you don't have to learn another language or anything like that, but there's so much out there that you can learn by just reading about little things that you can tweak about yourself.
- MRMel Robbins
So, there are gonna be so many listeners around the world, Judy, that not only fall in love with you-
- JRJudie Robbins
(laughs)
- MRMel Robbins
... but are now, like, thinking about their grandparents or their parents, right?
- JRJudie Robbins
(laughs)
- MRMel Robbins
And I know they are going to forward this episode....as a little nudge, like, "Come on, now. You could have more energy. I really want you to feel more connected. You know, I'm worried about you being so lonely. Maybe you should volunteer." You're going to be kind of wanting to prod them along a little bit. What advice would you have for someone who wants to really inspire their loved ones to find more energy and meaning in their life, even into their 80s, 90s, and 100?
- JRJudie Robbins
Well, if they could encourage their parents or their grandparents, they could say something like, "You know, why don't we take a walk together?"
- MRMel Robbins
Hmm.
- JRJudie Robbins
Young people tend to want to tell their parents or their grandparents to do this, do that, do the oth- but how about saying, "You know what? Let's do this together." You know, if you don't live close by, get on a plane or drive there. You want to take a walk around the block? You want to take a walk? Don't always make it up to them to have to do it all by themselves.
- MRMel Robbins
I think that's amazing. So one of my best friends, Jodie, uh, moved from Santa Barbara back home to Michigan.
- JRJudie Robbins
Yeah.
- MRMel Robbins
And she... Part of the impetus was just kind of know- feeling like, "I don't know how much time I'm going to have with them."
- JRJudie Robbins
Listen-
- MRMel Robbins
And, and going, "I want to be there and go on the walk with them." And I love that thing. Like, don't give them the advice. Sign up for the class with them. She was just explaining this the other night. She was like... I said, "What are you doing this week?" She said, "Well, I found a, uh, opportunity to judge a bass fishing competition, so I signed my dad and I up, and we're gonna go. And I have no idea how to judge a bass fishing competition-"
- JRJudie Robbins
Oh, that's so great.
- MRMel Robbins
"...but he's so excited." And I thought, "What a beautiful thing, that you weren't just prodding him to do something, that you found something, and that you are doing it with him." So many people write in and say they wish their life was more purposeful. How have you found a sense of purpose in your life now that you're 86?
- JRJudie Robbins
Just staying connected, you know. Or, y- y- you know, I think that so many people think, "You know, I should have a hobby." Um, I think that's, uh, full of... You don't have to have a hobby. You just have to have a reason why you want to get up, and that reason is that you're so lucky that you can, that you, you know, you can do something. Um, I mean, I just called my best friend from high school, who I haven't spoken to in, oh God, I don't know when, just to see if she's alive, 'cause she's the same age as I am.
- MRMel Robbins
Was she?
- JRJudie Robbins
Yes, but not in great mind, I don't think.
- MRMel Robbins
In terms of Alzheimer's or dementia?
- JRJudie Robbins
I don't know. I think so.
- MRMel Robbins
Gotcha.
- JRJudie Robbins
I mean, she usually would ask me about myself or my kids-
- MRMel Robbins
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
- JRJudie Robbins
... and it was a little flat.
- MRMel Robbins
Yeah.
- JRJudie Robbins
A little like... I, I just as soon get off the phone.
- 46:41 – 49:01
How to use group messages to stay better connected.
- MRMel Robbins
It's a multi-generational family group chat that-
- JRJudie Robbins
That I created.
- MRMel Robbins
...is, everybody's on, that Judy created.
- JRJudie Robbins
And so I'll send out, you know, a picture, which I just did last week.
- MRMel Robbins
Literally two people will heart it.
- JRJudie Robbins
And... Yeah, maybe. (laughs)
- MRMel Robbins
(laughs)
- JRJudie Robbins
Maybe no one.
- MRMel Robbins
There's 18 of us on there.
- JRJudie Robbins
(laughs) And I get nothing.
- MRMel Robbins
(laughs)
- JRJudie Robbins
And so, you know, maybe I'll send it out again, and I still don't get anything. Well, I don't harbor... I don't think, like, "Oh my God, they don't love me," or they're not... They're busy, but at least I'm making them aware that I'm still around. So-
- MRMel Robbins
I think that's a really important part, because it is so easy to put something out, whether it's, "I always invite," or, "I always call," or, "I'm always the one putting something in the family group chat and nobody's reciprocating." It's very, very easy to start to get resentful-
- JRJudie Robbins
Sure.
- MRMel Robbins
...and to then pull back. You don't do that.
- JRJudie Robbins
Well, everybody's busy. I know that.
- MRMel Robbins
Yeah.
- JRJudie Robbins
It's my way of saying, "Don't forget about me. I'm still around." (laughs)
- MRMel Robbins
(laughs) It is amazing. It's not so easy to do. Um, if the person listening, Jude, takes just one action based on everything that you spoke about today, what do you think the most important thing to do is?
- JRJudie Robbins
Uh.
- MRMel Robbins
It's the... Is it... Is it the gingersnaps with the smoothie?
- JRJudie Robbins
(laughs) The most important...
- MRMel Robbins
Yeah, if they only take... 'Cause everybody's busy and they're gonna listen and really laugh with you and forward this to somebody that they love to inspire them to start walking, or connecting, or feeling more grateful, or realizing that the best days are behind you, because the days are what you make of them. And the people that you care about are still there, and there are people that you know that are still there, and you can reach out. And so there's a lot that you've given people to think about, whether it's jumping out of airplanes, or getting a tattoo, or, you know, your just s- philosophy of staying active, and why even reading and walking every day gives more energy to your life. So there's a lot. And I love to have...... The person listening know what you think the singular most important thing is. Like, they're not going to remember everything, so what's the
- 49:01 – 51:47
How your social life might help you live longer.
- MRMel Robbins
most important thing in your mind if they were only to follow one piece of your advice that would make the biggest difference?
- JRJudie Robbins
To reach out to your friends. Stay connected so you don't feel alone.
- MRMel Robbins
Hmm.
- JRJudie Robbins
That would be the most important 'cause loneliness will just bring you down and that brings sickness, taking meds that you probably don't even need. One thing leads to another. If you stay connected, if you have a problem, pick up the phone and tell, be honest with your friend. If you cry, cry. Say, "You know, I'm, I'm lonely. Can I come over and see you?" So, you know, we don't have a lot of time in this world, so I think you reach for the golden ring when you can still see it.
- MRMel Robbins
Ooh, that's beautiful. What are your parting words?
- JRJudie Robbins
Stay in love.
- MRMel Robbins
Stay in love. What does that mean?
- JRJudie Robbins
Just love your being. Love yourself, love your friends, love your life. Y- you just never know when it's gonna end, and believe me, when you get to be my age, you think a lot more about the fact that you have a lot of friends who aren't here anymore. So...
- MRMel Robbins
No wonder you're the most popular expert-
- JRJudie Robbins
(laughs)
- MRMel Robbins
... we have on the Mel Robbins podcast.
- JRJudie Robbins
Thank you, Mel.
- MRMel Robbins
Oh, thank you. I love you. You are such a gift to all of us-
- JRJudie Robbins
Thank you.
- MRMel Robbins
... but to me in particular. I just love you so much.
- JRJudie Robbins
I love you. And I love your podcast.
- MRMel Robbins
(laughs) Well, thank you. And for you being here with us, I also just wanna say I love you too, and I believe in you, and I bet Judy does too.
- JRJudie Robbins
I do.
- MRMel Robbins
And I believe in your ability to create a better life. Now you listen to this 86-year-old and go do it. Get your rear end out for a walk and then call your friends. You can thank us later. (laughs) I'll talk to you in a few days.
- JRJudie Robbins
(laughs)
- MRMel Robbins
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