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You Can Change Your Brain: Neuroscientist Explains How to Rewire Your Mind & Stop Negative Thoughts

Order your copy of The Let Them Theory 👉 https://melrob.co/let-them-theory 👈 The #1 Best Selling Book of 2025 🔥 Discover how much power you truly have. It all begins with two simple words. Let Them. — After listening to this episode, your brain will not be the same. In this episode, you’ll learn how to stop negative thoughts, heal from past trauma, and reset your mind for peace, focus, and resilience. Today, neuroscientist Dr. Caroline Leaf is here to share her evidence-based, 5-step Neurocycle method that has helped millions take control of their mental health – and will help you take your power back. Dr. Caroline Leaf is  a world renowned cognitive neuroscientist, and a pioneer in the science of neuroplasticity, which is the study of how your brain changes based on how you use your mind. For nearly 40 years, Dr. Leaf has been at the forefront of cognitive neuroscience, researching how you can reprogram the way your brain works by using your thoughts. What she teaches is life-changing: You can train your brain to work for you, not against you. You’ll learn: -How to break the cycle of overthinking and self-sabotage -What trauma really does to your brain and how to heal it -The surprising difference between your brain and your mind (and why it matters) -The 5-step daily practice that helps you rewire any thought pattern This isn’t just a conversation about mindset. It’s a masterclass in the science of unlocking the power of your brain. For more resources related to today’s episode, click here for the podcast episode page: https://www.melrobbins.com/episode/episode-306/ Follow The Mel Robbins Podcast on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/themelrobbinspodcast I’m just your friend. I am not a licensed therapist, and this podcast is NOT intended as a substitute for the advice of a physician, professional coach, psychotherapist, or other qualified professional. Got it? Good. I’ll see you in the next episode. In this episode: 00:00 Welcome 01:04 The Brain Reframe That Will Change Your Life 13:37 #1 Clinical Neuroscientist Explains How to Change Your Brain 23:20 Dr. Leaf’s 5-Step Protocol to Manage Stress, Burnout, and Depression 40:38 Use These Questions to Break Your Old Patterns 48:53 The Best Mental Hack to Stop Negativity 54:42 Reset Your Mind in 63 Seconds 01:04:02 The Most Powerful Truth About Your Mind, According to a Neuroscientist — Follow Mel: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/melrobbins/ TikTok: http://tiktok.com/@melrobbins Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/melrobbins LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/melrobbins Website: http://melrobbins.com​ — Sign up for Mel’s newsletter: https://melrob.co/sign-up-newsletter A note from Mel to you, twice a week, sharing simple, practical ways to build the life you want. — Subscribe to Mel’s channel here: https://www.youtube.com/melrobbins​?sub_confirmation=1 — Listen to The Mel Robbins Podcast 🎧 New episodes drop every Monday & Thursday! https://melrob.co/spotify https://melrob.co/applepodcasts https://melrob.co/amazonmusic — Looking for Mel’s books on Amazon? Find them here: The Let Them Theory: https://amzn.to/3IQ21Oe The Let Them Theory Audiobook: https://amzn.to/413SObp The High 5 Habit: https://amzn.to/3fMvfPQ The 5 Second Rule: https://amzn.to/4l54fah

Dr. Caroline LeafguestMel Robbinshost
Jul 10, 20251h 8mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:001:04

    Welcome

    1. CL

      (instrumental music plays) This brain does absolutely nothing except what you tell it to do with your mind.

    2. MR

      Dr. Caroline Leaf is a world-renowned researcher and a psychoneurobiologist. Since the early 1980s, she has been researching the mind-brain connection, the formation of memory, and she is also one of the original pioneering researchers to figure out that your brain can change. She is also the author of 18 best-selling books that have been translated into 24 languages.

    3. CL

      You can't change your story, but you can change what it looks like inside of you, and therefore, how it plays out into the future. The mind is 99% of who you are. It's fundamental-

    4. MR

      Okay, now hold on. I'm wiggling my toes right now thinking my mind is in my toes right now. This is so crazy. I've never heard anybody explain it like that. I just think I got it.

    5. CL

      The mind and the brain, the words are used interchangeably as though they're the same thing. And the research shows that 95% of lifestyle diseases come from our thought life. So what the truth is, Mel, is that...

  2. 1:0413:37

    The Brain Reframe That Will Change Your Life

    1. CL

    2. MR

      Dr. Caroline Leaf. It is such an honor to have you here in our studios in Boston. It's a pleasure to meet you in person since I've been admiring your work from afar and watching your videos online. Thank you, thank you, thank you for hopping on a plane and being here with us.

    3. CL

      Oh, Mel, it's an honor and a privilege. I'm one of your biggest fans and really love what you do. Thank you. It's so great to be here. I'm so excited.

    4. MR

      Well, I'm excited to dig into your more than 35 years of research and the tools that you're going to share with us today that come from being a world-renowned psychoneurobiologist. But the way that I want to start is I would love for you to speak directly to the person who is listening to us right now who feels trapped in negative thoughts. You know, like, that their mind is just a complete mess. What would you tell that person who's listening to us right now that feels that way?

    5. CL

      95% of people, according to research, actually battle with negative thinking. So it's very common. It's much more common than we realize. But people are, people get stuck there because they're drawn to the imbalance that it creates. You can- you can actually, as soon as you're aware of that, you can change it. And some of the typical things that people get stuck with are things like, they feel under pressure. That they, that- that's such a, I'm so, "I feel so pressurized, I just can't do it." Black-and-white thinking is another huge one. It's this or that. Nothing's ever, life's a spectrum, nothing's ever black and white, but it really gets people stuck. Things like, "My brain won't shut up." You know, that's something that people will often say to me. "How do I switch my brain off?" That's a common statement that people make. A couple of others are things like, um, "My- my past is haunting me. How do I deal with it?" It's coming right into, it haunts, it's there, it's over me all the time.

    6. MR

      I appreciate you sharing what you just shared because I think it's so important that, number one, that the person listening understands that they're not alone in feeling how they feel, and more importantly, number two, that there is something you can do about it, that it's based in evidence, and that based on your clinical research, it's going to work. And I would love to have you just start by telling the person who's listening what could change about their life or the life of people that they love if they really take to heart everything that you're about to teach us today and they apply it themselves.

    7. CL

      That's such a good question, and I think the biggest thing that I have found over the nearly 40 years I've been in this field and reached now a lot of people and 20, 25 years of clinical practice, the key thing that is so helpful and that is that your mind is not your brain. They're not the same thing, and that you can manage your mind. You can actually change your mind and change your brain. You're not stuck. I think that's absolutely key for people.

    8. MR

      Dr. Leaf, you just said that the brain is different from the mind. What does that mean?

    9. CL

      Yeah, and that's the key question because when you get that, when you get that concept, it changes your life, it brings hope. We have a, we have a lot of messaging for kind of about 40 years now where we are, the mind and the brain, the words are used interchangeably, as though they're the same thing. So what the truth is, Mel, is that your brain and your body are the physical part of you. So I've got a, I've got a little brain down here. Let me grab a little brain. Okay, so this brain does absolutely nothing except what you tell it to do with your mind.

    10. MR

      Okay, now hold on. Let me see if I can understand this because if you're watching this on YouTube, you can see that she has a little model of a brain. It looks like two chicken cutlets together.

    11. CL

      (laughs) It does (laughs) .

    12. MR

      And you're basically saying that on its own, that blob right there-

    13. CL

      Mm-hmm.

    14. MR

      ... that we call the brain, the physical structure does absolutely nothing on its own.

    15. CL

      On its own.

    16. MR

      Okay.

    17. CL

      Nothing on its own.

    18. MR

      So then what is the mind?

    19. CL

      So the mind is the energy force that actually drives the brain and makes it work, which is enabling us to have a conversation and part of memory and remembering what we're saying and so on because your mind is doing the work. So the easiest way to understand this is that if you die, within seconds of your heart stopping, under 20 seconds, your brain basically, that's it, and your body disintegrate. So the brain and the body disintegrate. What's the difference between a dead person and an alive person? It's actually your mind. So mind is a big word and it represents your spirit, your soul, whatever word you wanna use. It's that maleness, it's your ability to perceive what I'm saying, to think and feel and choose about that, to love, to have relationships, to the way you see the world, the way you learn knowledge, the way you perceive every moment of every day. That's mind. That mind drives your physiology. So the mind makes the brain work. It makes the genetics and the neurohormones and the neurochemistry. It makes the heart beat.If you wouldn't, didn't have a mind, your heart couldn't beat. It's your mind that's making your heart beat, that's making your lungs work, that's making you breathe. So it handles your mental aspects, your psychological aspects. It handles your neuro aspects and it handles your biological, so psycho, neuro, biological. So I'm actually a psycho-neurobiologist, looking at this relationship, this network that we have. And the interesting thing, Mel, is that the mind is 99% of who you are. It's fundamental. It's the prism through which life pros- is processed. The brain is just a host. So the mind is taking this conversation and putting a copy of it into the brain, and that then activates the brain to respond chemically and electromagnetically and genetically and, and then it wires this conversation. As we're talking, it's wiring it into the brain. The mind's doing the work. So you with your mind and your listeners, they're taking my words, which are electromagnetic impulses, taking those into the mind zone. We've got like a zone around us of electromagnetic field. It's a, it's a field of energy. It's exactly the same energy that run your phone. Okay?

    20. MR

      Huh.

    21. CL

      So the thing that makes your cell phone and all elec- anything work, that's the lights, the studio lights, etc., everything, everything that works, it's electromagnetics. So but each of us has our own unique electromagnetic field. So you have yours, I have mine. We all have our own unique ones. So your mind is that thing on a physics level. I know it sounds hard. That's why I say think of a cell phone.

    22. MR

      I actually think it makes a lot of sense. So I want to try to give it back to you.

    23. CL

      Yeah, yeah. Go for it.

    24. MR

      Um, so I completely understand what you're saying, that the brain is the physical thing.

    25. CL

      Yeah.

    26. MR

      The mind is the energy force.

    27. CL

      Yes.

    28. MR

      And the programming. And so if you take the example of the cell phone, if the cell phone isn't charged, it's dead.

    29. CL

      Exactly.

    30. MR

      Same thing with a human being. And what charges you is the energy of your mind.

  3. 13:3723:20

    #1 Clinical Neuroscientist Explains How to Change Your Brain

    1. MR

    2. CL

      You got it, Mel.

    3. MR

      Wow.

    4. CL

      Yes.

    5. MR

      So I, I have a question about this.

    6. CL

      That's so good.

    7. MR

      Because you're going to teach us-

    8. CL

      Yeah.

    9. MR

      ... no matter what you've been through, no matter how messy your life is right now, no matter how scrambled your thoughts may be, no matter how stuck you think you are, you can absolutely make your mind bud and sprout completely-

    10. CL

      Absolutely.

    11. MR

      ... new thoughts, completely new ways to go through life, and you have the research to prove it. When, when did you actually realize that this was possible?

    12. CL

      I'm, I'm 61. I trained in it back in the '80s, and in the '80s we were told that once the brain was damaged, that's it. This neuroscience lecturer was saying, "Okay, so once you've had brain damage, once you've had trauma, that's it, you gotta teach your patients to compensate." And I immediately remember putting up my hand, and now this is, eh, back in the '80s, I'm a female, it's in science, there's majority males in my class, and majority male lecturers. And there was bias. And I immediately put up my hand and I said, I wasn't trying to be difficult, but I challenged that and said, "But we constantly are changing, growing, learning, all the stuff that philosophers have spoken about for h- thousands of years, so therefore that means that our brain must change, because our brain is the host. Our brain hosts our mind. And the brain has got to change." So this professor kind of facetiously said, "Well, go do research." I thought, "Well, let me do that," and I started working with people with traumatic brain injuries and saying, "Okay, well if I can help them manage their mind, if I can help them rebuild and change how they're thinking, can that change the brain?" I took people that had severe traumatic brain injuries and-

    13. MR

      So give me an example. Like, what, what-

    14. CL

      Okay, so-

    15. MR

      ... like, what, what does a patient that has severe traumatic-

    16. CL

      Okay, so I'll tell you a story. Can I tell you-

    17. MR

      Yeah, please.

    18. CL

      ... one of my f- most m- amazing stories that I've told f- I've been telling this story now since then and I have permission to tell it? It was one of my patients called Lee and she ... I had just started this research, and Lee was a 16 year old, um, and she had a terrible, her and her brother had a terrible car accident, she was thrown far from the car and she went into a coma. In that time, p- in the '80s, if you had a, if you were in a coma for longer than eight hours, the brain damage was considered irreversible. But these per- these parents were, "We're not gonna accept this. There's no ways that this is gonna be the case." And they said, "Look, please," and they begged me. So I said, "Okay, well if you prepare to work with me, we're gonna work together," and that's what we did. And we worked for eight months. Now-

    19. MR

      And so you've got a, their daughter was thrown from a car.

    20. CL

      Yeah.

    21. MR

      She's in a coma.

    22. CL

      Yeah.

    23. MR

      She, the parents are told after eight hours there's irreversible brain damage.

    24. CL

      Exactly.

    25. MR

      And I think, and, you know, like even without being a doctor, it makes sense.

    26. CL

      Yeah, it does.

    27. MR

      Because you're like, okay, you've been thrown from a car, there's clearly damage, physical damage to the brain-

    28. CL

      Exactly, exactly.

    29. MR

      ... and there's nothing that can be done. And now you enter, Dr. Leaf, and you're like, "Oh, no, no, no. We're gonna look at the mind, the thing that's wiggling your hands and your toes-"

    30. CL

      Exactly.

  4. 23:2040:38

    Dr. Leaf’s 5-Step Protocol to Manage Stress, Burnout, and Depression

    1. MR

      your life.

    2. CL

      Y- you summarized that brilliantly.

    3. MR

      While we're on the topic of your book, when I was reading it, I noticed that there was this whole section about how labeling a mental health issue, you know, for example, when you say, "I have anxiety, I have depression, I have PTSD," that that's actually harmful. As a neuroscientist, what do you mean by that?

    4. CL

      Oh, wow, I'm so glad you asked this question. The last 40 years, we've had the biomedical model, and the biomedical model basically has taken our experiences as humans and put them into, um, a diagnosis, and a label, and a treatment. Now, that works brilliantly if you have diabetes, or cardiovascular heart issues, or anything like that. It, it... that model is, is medical. It's a good model. But the mind doesn't work like that, because the mind isn't driven by the brain. So, that model is based on the fact that your brain is it, and your brain produces mind. Your brain produces nothing. Your brain is a responder-

    5. MR

      Mmm.

    6. CL

      ... it's a host-... and it just does what the mind tells it to do. And if your mind keeps feeding it all the stuff like we've been describing, eventually over time, cumulatively, your body and mind break down so you become vulnerable to disease. And the research shows that 95% of lifestyle diseases come from our thought life. 95%. So that's established scientific fact. The labels of PTSD, schizophrenia, anxiety, depression, they all seem as though they're the same as something like diabetes, but they're not. They're not at all. The word anxiety, and we'll see this when we do the neuro cycle, and depression, those are not things. Those are emotional warning signals.

    7. MR

      They're telling you that you're out of alignment with how you should be feeling.

    8. CL

      And you need to pay attention, yes. Otherwise, it's going to get worse. So you- you've gotta ... If you put your hand on the stove and it's burning, you can take all the ibuprofen in the world that you want and painkillers, but if you ... until you remove your hand from the stove, you're still gonna have your- it's gonna burn a hole through your hand. So what we're doing is toxic positivity, um, ignore- labeling, medicating. That's just trying to deal with the symptoms. What we have to do is embrace all the scariness, sadness, darkness of life, and you use that to learn and to grow. That's essentially what we need to do. So, labeling locks you in.

    9. MR

      Mm.

    10. CL

      Because PTSD is not an it. It's a behavior. Depression and anxiety are not an it. They're emotional warning signals. PTSD is a behavioral warning signal.

    11. MR

      What- what does that mean, "It's not an it?"

    12. CL

      Okay. So-

    13. MR

      It's a signal.

    14. CL

      So it's not a fixed thing. So when you label something like diabetes, it's a- it's something wrong with your pancreas. There's insulin ... It doesn't produce enough insulin. They can do a test and they can target a medication. When it comes to PTSD, it's not the same thing. It's not some thing that you can target specifically with a medication. PTSD is a- is a big word for a bunch of reactions that we have to adverse circumstances. So whether you're in war, whether you've been raped repeatedly as a child, whether you've been in a- t- tremendous socioeconomic strain, whether you've had a bullying relationship at work. All of that is not s- ... PTSD, it's- it's- it's ... Each one is its own unique story. You can't just take that hugeness, stick it in a label and say, "Oh, your brain is broken here, let's fix it here." It's not about your brain.

    15. MR

      What is it about?

    16. CL

      It's about your mind. It's about the experience. So it's about the experience that you've had. So adverse response to adverse experience is-

    17. MR

      It makes you normal.

    18. CL

      ... very normal. Yes.

    19. MR

      And it makes you healthy.

    20. CL

      Exactly. And that the-

    21. MR

      And when you say mind, I wanna be very, very clear that what you're saying when you say mind is, you're saying that the experience that you had that was creating the traum- the traumatic response-

    22. CL

      Mm-hmm.

    23. MR

      ... was recorded by the mind, it was programmed into the brain and the body and the nervous system.

    24. CL

      Yeah.

    25. MR

      And by labeling it and by focusing on it, you make that experience stay arou- like- like what-

    26. CL

      Locked in. You're locking it in. It's like putting a key-

    27. MR

      You're locking it in.

    28. CL

      ... and you ... And that's now ... And then you're shifting to that, and then that becomes your defining-

    29. MR

      How do you want us to think about it? 'Cause you know, I ... You- you're a neuroscientist that has success healing traumatic brain injury and also healing other traumas in the brain and the body by beginning with the mind. So how do you want us to think about trauma, anxiety, and depression?

    30. CL

      Okay. So v- great question. So I want you to think about them as simply how you're showing up. As words, descriptions for how you're showing up, as opposed to diseases of the brain.

  5. 40:3848:53

    Use These Questions to Break Your Old Patterns

    1. MR

      wrong." So once you've asked these four questions and you've gathered the awareness, the second step is reflect.

    2. CL

      Yes.

    3. MR

      What do you do?

    4. CL

      So reflection, if you think of a reflection, you look at yourself in the mirror, you see a reflection of yourself. There's also the concept of a reflection of light through a prism. If you sh- shine a white light through a prism-

    5. MR

      Mm-hmm.

    6. CL

      ... it comes out both-

    7. MR

      There you go.

    8. CL

      Yes.

    9. MR

      Yes.

    10. CL

      So there's depth and there's reflection. So you're reflecting on, "How is... How am I seeing myself w- you know, in relation to those four questions?" So you keep very organized. Don't jump all over. So you say... You reflect on, "Why am I seeing myself this way and what does it mean?" So you look in the mirror and you go deep. What... And you use the WH questions, the who, the what, the when, the where, the why, the how.

    11. MR

      Okay. So how do I do that?

    12. CL

      So, "Why am I feeling like this in this moment? Why am I, why am I specifically feeling it in my stomach? Is it always in my stomach when I feel this? Um, Where, where is this happening? Is it only happening at work? Is it happening before? How often... Uh, who, who... How, how often is it happening? Is it happening every day or just now and then?" So you just start the process. You're not gonna solve it all, but it's very specific. "I'm looking at myself in the mirror, I'm reflecting back and I'm going deep. Who, when, where, what, why, how?"

    13. MR

      Got it.

    14. CL

      You don't have to answer all of them, but what makes sense to, to one. Now those two, three steps, people are pretty good at the meditation, the breathing, all that stuff. Um, they're pretty good at saying how they feel. That's wh... But that's when people crash, often they crash-

    15. MR

      Well, it's sort of like people who go to therapy for years and years and years, and just get good at talking about their problems.

    16. CL

      But, but not-

    17. MR

      But don't ever-

    18. CL

      ... progress forward.

    19. MR

      ... like move to the solution part or the attacking-

    20. CL

      Exactly. There's no-

    21. MR

      ... problem.

    22. CL

      ... moving forward.

    23. MR

      So how do we do that here? Because we're now becoming aware of the thing, the cycle that you're normally in, which is very important to separate-

    24. CL

      Yes.

    25. MR

      ... yourself from it.

    26. CL

      Yes. Yes.

    27. MR

      And you're doing it in a way where you're calm.

    28. CL

      Very organized.

    29. MR

      Yeah.

    30. CL

      Very calm, very organized for-

  6. 48:5354:42

    The Best Mental Hack to Stop Negativity

    1. CL

      this."

    2. MR

      Now is this the recheck part?

    3. CL

      Recheck, step four.

    4. MR

      Okay.

    5. CL

      We're gonna reconceptualize. We're gonna look at this from another angle. This is what's happened. What can we do about it now? Not forever. Not next week. Now.

    6. MR

      Right.

    7. CL

      How do I get through today?

    8. MR

      Today.

    9. CL

      This moment. How can I see this differently?... well, today maybe is day one, so you might just say, "Oh, I just realized that..." Because you described in absolute depth about the 13th floor right up to the 17th and the high street. That you, your realization there would be what, what I would say with your reconceptualization as you recheck this is, "Wow, it's imprinted so much on my mind. Every moment of getting to that office, to the 17th floor was pure and utter dread. And every day I just reinforced it, grew more and more in my head." Wow, that's what's happened. That's enough for the recheck for that day, just that awareness on day one. Tomorrow you can start doing some work on it. But just awareness, "Wow, that level of detail that I, attention that I paid to that process, it's linked to that dread. It's linked to, I'm in the wrong, I think I must be in the wrong place."

    10. MR

      Mm.

    11. CL

      "I don't have a solution yet. I've got to go to work today. I don't have another job. I don't know if that's the solution. I don't know yet, but it's okay. It's okay to not be okay. So now what can I do?" First step, active reach. Actively reach for something that you can do to get you through the day.

    12. MR

      What if you don't know what to do?

    13. CL

      Okay.

    14. MR

      Because I think that's the thing, like when you, when you first start this-

    15. CL

      Yeah. That's the hard-

    16. MR

      ... and you actually become present to what you're feeling, which is the first step, what is one thing that somebody who is starting to apply this to interrupt and to work this neurocycle, which is you actively, consciously using your mind to interrupt the negative thoughts-

    17. CL

      Five steps.

    18. MR

      ... and energy in these five steps. What is one thing that you could do as an a- an example of active reach if you can't think of something?

    19. CL

      So, something really simple-

    20. MR

      Yeah.

    21. CL

      ... is just repeat, "It's okay to be a mess. It's okay to feel like this." It's a statement, a phrase. It could be a visualization. And what you do, so it could be something as simple as, "Wow, I'm actually starting to see something. Well done." It could be a simple phrase like that. And you could imagine, if you like to visualize, you could imagine a beautiful flower.

    22. MR

      Mm.

    23. CL

      And then what you do is you take the phrase, you attach it to the visual, and then as you go through the day, each time you feel the dread emerging, you, you don't, you don't, you're not suppressing, but you're gonna deal with it tomorrow. And the reason you deal with it tomorrow is because our physical brain, body, and conscious mind don't have the same level of energy as the unconscious. The unconscious has unlimited energy, but the brain-

    24. MR

      So it's always gonna be popping stuff up.

    25. CL

      It's always popping. It's always popping.

    26. MR

      And so it's always gonna keep coming up.

    27. CL

      Exactly.

    28. MR

      And you're like, you can go through this and then you just literally, even if you're like, "Okay, I'm recognizing it is a good thing," or, "I'm capable of figuring this out."

    29. CL

      Exactly. Something-

    30. MR

      That's, that's my favorite. I'm capable of figuring...

  7. 54:421:04:02

    Reset Your Mind in 63 Seconds

    1. MR

      uh, but there's even better news here.

    2. CL

      Yeah, there is.

    3. MR

      And the better news is that based on your new clinical research and the new what is going to be mega best-selling book, Help in a Hurry, you have also established based on research that you can, in 63 seconds, stop yourself from a negative thought or emotional spiral. How so?

    4. CL

      Yes, okay. So it's, it's that point where you feel like you can't do too much, you're gonna, you know, just like, "I wanna, I, I wanna..." Someone says something to you, you want to punch them in the face. You can't punch them in the face, but you can get yourself back under control. The moments where, um-

    5. MR

      Oh, I got an email yesterday that was like (gasps) . And I, I immediately felt like I was in trouble and that I'd done... Here we go again. The negative, here that, that I'd done something wrong, here's that intrusive thought again.

    6. CL

      Yeah.

    7. MR

      And-It started to spiral. I felt it in my chest. I didn't know how to respond to it. I was slightly annoyed that this person felt this way about something that had happened. It was all business-related. And what do you do in that moment? 'Cause we've all had that moment where-

    8. CL

      Oh, all the time.

    9. MR

      ... you literally get a text from somebody, and you're like, "Eh," and you just wanna just text back, all caps and... How do you do, how do you, how do you-

    10. CL

      You get yourself-

    11. MR

      ... stop yourself? Yes.

    12. CL

      Okay. So in, in that actual moment, the first thing that you need to do is to acknowledge it. The minute that, th- the minute you say it, even if it's in your head, or you can write it, the minute it comes out, you take the power. If it's inside, it basically builds up the wrong hormones. It's like when you cry. If you, if you're in grief and you cry, you're actually taking the hormones out that if you kept them in would make the grief worse. So you're crying-

    13. MR

      That's so beautiful.

    14. CL

      ... after. It, it's amazing. Yeah, it's amazing. So-

    15. MR

      Okay. So I just wanna get-

    16. CL

      ... you wanna get it-

    17. MR

      So, so something happens, and th- here's one-

    18. CL

      Mm-hmm.

    19. MR

      ... that everybody can relate to.

    20. CL

      (laughs)

    21. MR

      You get the text.

    22. CL

      Yeah.

    23. MR

      "We need to talk."

    24. CL

      Yeah. And then your heart just, like, I mean, just even that tone, all of us have had that, when, "Ah, what has just happened? Oh, no, what am I gonna do?" So it's in that moment that the first thing you're gonna do is say out loud or in your head, "This text makes me feel like this." It's the acknowledgement. It-

    25. MR

      I have to say it out loud?

    26. CL

      Preferably, but if you can't-

    27. MR

      "This text freaks me out."

    28. CL

      ... say it in your head. "This text freaks me out be- because of why?" What-

    29. MR

      Oh, y- we need the because?

    30. CL

      Yes. You add the because on it.

  8. 1:04:021:08:05

    The Most Powerful Truth About Your Mind, According to a Neuroscientist

    1. CL

    2. MR

      So, Dr. Leaf, if the person who is listening, after, I mean, the amount that you have taught us today, absolutely unbelievable.

    3. CL

      (laughs)

    4. MR

      Um, if the person listening does just one thing or takes one thing away from this, what would you want the most important thing to be?

    5. CL

      I think there's, there's so many, but I think the, the most important thing is to realize that your mind is not your brain.

    6. MR

      Mm-hmm.

    7. CL

      And that your, you, your mind is the 99% of who you are, and that you can change. You can't change your story, but you can change what it looks like inside of you, and therefore how it plays out into the future.

    8. MR

      Amazing. Dr. Leaf, what are your parting words?

    9. CL

      You cannot control the events and circumstances of your life, but you can control your reactions to the events and circumstances.

    10. MR

      Thank you, thank you, thank you, for just... This is extraordinary.

    11. CL

      Thank you.

    12. MR

      Uh, you have a real gift in terms of being able to explain something so insanely scientific and intellectual and complicated in a way that I can understand, the person listening can understand.

    13. CL

      Thank you. Thank you.

    14. MR

      I know that, uh, people are gonna share this with everybody in their life that they love and care about, um, because we all need your work in our lives.

    15. CL

      Thank you.

    16. MR

      And I really, really appreciate how you broke it all down. And I feel very optimistic. And like, what's super cool is I believe you. Like, I... Like, I really believe that when you understand everything that you just taught us and you truly embrace the power of what your almost 40 years of groundbreaking research has proven, that you can leverage the power of your mind and the way that it's powering your body and your brain and its capacity to literally reprogram the experience of being you. Like, how exciting is that?

    17. CL

      So exciting, isn't it? Thank you for seeing what I'm trying to do and what I've been trying to do all these years and will continue to do till whenever (laughs) .

    18. MR

      Well-

    19. CL

      I never stop. (laughs)

    20. MR

      Uh, don't. Don't stop. And, you know, I also wanna thank you. Thank you for, for listening all the way until this moment. Thank you for really investing time into learning something that is so powerful and to really thinking about the power that you have and the beauty of your mind to heal yourself, to reprogram what it feels like to be you, to make changes. So does everybody in your life. You heard Dr. Leaf say she's teaching these techniques to, uh, kids as young as two. We all need to learn this. So thank you for sharing this with people that you care about. And I also want to just say, in case no one else tells you, that I love you and I believe in you and I believe in your ability to create a better life. And, you know, I don't know that I've ever felt more optimistic about it now that I truly grasp the power of what Dr. Leaf's research has proven to be true, that through the power of your mind, you can heal trauma, you can change your brain, you can change your life, and it doesn't cost a thing to actually do it. All righty. I will see you in a few days. I'll be waiting for you the moment you hit play in the very next episode. I'll see you there. I'll be waiting to welcome you in. And thank you for watching all the way to the end. Was that not extraordinary? I feel so inspired and moved. I know you do too. Thank you for sharing this with people that you care about. Thank you for hitting subscribe 'cause that's one way you can support me as I'm supporting you. And I know you're like, "Mel, what do I watch next?" I want you to check out this video. You're gonna love it. And I'll be welcoming you in the moment you hit play. I'll see you there.

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