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A New Kind Of Matter | Professor Paul Steinhardt

Professor Paul Steinhardt is a theoretical physicist and cosmologist at Princeton University, Director of the Princeton Centre for Theoretical Science and an author. Despite Professor Steinhardt's resume reading like a scientist, today's story is closer to that of a crime detective novel than a research project. Join us on a rollercoaster tale as we travel across the world with Professor Steinhardt and his team in search of a new kind of matter. Expect to meet some crafty Russians, an old lady in Amsterdam, a Romanian man called Tim and an asteroid that no one ever new existed. More Stuff: The Second Kind Of Impossible - https://amzn.to/2CqhiQX Professor Steinhardt's Website - https://paulsteinhardt.org/ - Listen to all episodes online. Search "Modern Wisdom" on any Podcast App or click here: iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/modern-wisdom/id1347973549 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0XrOqvxlqQI6bmdYHuIVnr?si=iUpczE97SJqe1kNdYBipnw Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/modern-wisdom - I want to hear from you!! Get in touch in the comments below or head to... Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Email: modernwisdompodcast@gmail.com

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Mar 18, 20191h 9mWatch on YouTube ↗

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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Cosmic Quasicrystals: The Meteorite Mystery That Rewrote Solid Matter

  1. Professor Paul Steinhardt explains the discovery of quasicrystals, a fundamentally new form of ordered matter once thought mathematically impossible under the classical rules of crystallography. By allowing multiple building blocks arranged in a non-repeating (quasi-periodic) way, he and his student showed that forbidden symmetries, like fivefold patterns, can in fact exist—and were soon matched by an accidental laboratory discovery.
  2. The conversation then pivots into a decades-long detective story tracking a tiny quasicrystal grain from an Italian museum collection back through collectors, smugglers, Soviet-era institutes, and mineral ledgers to a remote river in far eastern Russia. There, Steinhardt’s team confirmed that the material originated in a meteorite that formed before the Earth itself.
  3. This finding implies that quasicrystals can be produced by exotic high-energy processes in space, possibly even in other solar systems, revealing unknown pathways in early planetary formation. Beyond the story, Steinhardt outlines how quasicrystals already influence industrial alloys and may enable future photonic technologies that manipulate light like semiconductors handle electrons.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

‘Impossible’ scientific claims often hide assumptions rather than true impossibilities.

Steinhardt distinguishes between the “first kind” of impossible (rigorously ruled out, like tiling a floor with perfect pentagons using a single tile) and the “second kind,” where a hidden assumption can be relaxed—here, allowing multiple tile types and quasi-periodicity unlocked entirely new atomic arrangements.

Quasicrystals are a fundamentally new ordered state of matter with forbidden symmetries.

Unlike conventional crystals that repeat a single building block periodically, quasicrystals use two or more building blocks arranged in a non-repeating but ordered pattern, enabling symmetries (like fivefold and tenfold) long thought impossible for matter.

Theory and experiment advanced independently, then converged in a powerful confirmation.

While Steinhardt’s group developed the mathematical theory of quasicrystals, Dan Shechtman experimentally observed a diffraction pattern breaking crystallographic rules; only when Steinhardt compared the precomputed theoretical pattern to Shechtman’s data did the match reveal they were seeing the same new kind of matter.

Meticulous detective work can solve deep scientific mysteries that span decades and borders.

Tracing a grain from a museum drawer back to its origin required mining old catalog records, contacting widows of collectors, deciphering ‘secret’ and ‘secret-secret’ diaries, navigating fakes in mineral markets, and ultimately identifying the original field geologist in remote Russia.

Natural quasicrystals have extraterrestrial origins and predate Earth itself.

Laboratory analyses showed the Florence sample came from an ancient meteorite, likely formed in violent high-pressure space collisions or other exotic processes before planets existed, implying that quasicrystals belong on the list of earliest known minerals in the solar system.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

When scientists say something is impossible, I always ask: which kind of impossible is it?

Paul Steinhardt

We thought anything with the symmetry of a pentagon was forbidden in matter—but we were wrong.

Paul Steinhardt

This little grain violated centuries‑old laws of crystallography and might have formed before the Earth existed.

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By the time we got back from Russia and found the same quasicrystal in the same place, we knew the whole crazy detective story was true.

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Quasicrystals may become to light what semiconductors are to electrons.

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Classical crystallography and the ‘impossible’ symmetries (e.g., pentagons) it forbidsThe theoretical breakthrough: quasi-periodicity and quasicrystals as a new form of matterThe accidental experimental discovery of quasicrystals in the 1980sThe museum-to-meteorite detective story tracing a sample’s true originField expedition to remote Kamchatka to recover new quasicrystal-bearing meteorite materialImplications for cosmochemistry and early solar-system / pre-solar processesCurrent and potential applications of quasicrystals in materials science and photonics

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