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Abortion, Friendships & Dad Bods - Dr Jaimie Krems

Dr Jaimie Krems is an Assistant Professor at Oklahoma State University and a social psychologist whose research explores human social cognition, emotions, and behaviour. Evolution has shaped the way that men and women make and break friendships. It's made us into life-saving, caring, aggressive, jealous, friend-guarding, backbiting, gossiping animals, but why is it that male and female friendships are so different, and a ton of other fascinating insights. Expect to learn why a woman's body shape is so important to her attractiveness, why venting is a manipulative social strategy, how men with dad bods are literally perceived as better dads, why women who have casual sex are seen as having lower self-esteem even though there's no data to back it up, how a pro-life stance on abortion might be less virtuous than people first think and much more... Sponsors: Get £150 discount on Eight Sleep products at https://eightsleep.com/modernwisdom (discount automatically applied) Get 20% discount & free shipping on your Lawnmower 4.0 at https://www.manscaped.com/ (use code MODERNWISDOM) Get 5 Free Travel Packs, Free Liquid Vitamin D and Free Shipping from Athletic Greens at https://athleticgreens.com/modernwisdom (discount automatically applied) Extra Stuff: Check out Jaimie's website - https://www.kremslab.com/ Follow Jaimie on Twitter - https://twitter.com/JaimieKrems Get my free Reading List of 100 books to read before you die → https://chriswillx.com/books/ To support me on Patreon (thank you): https://www.patreon.com/modernwisdom #evolutionarypsychology #dating #friendship - 00:00 Intro 00:24 How Male & Female Friendships Differ 08:38 The Female Need to Vent 18:01 How Attractiveness Impacts Female Friendships 25:30 Finding a Balance of Jealousy 31:49 Perceiving Women’s Shapes & Sizes 41:54 Why Women Dress the Way They Do 47:56 Does Slut-Shaming Come More From Men Than Women? 55:33 Attitudes to Abortion as a Mating Strategy 1:06:47 Impact of Sexual Strategy on Religious Beliefs 1:11:26 Relationship Between Casual Sex & Self-Esteem 1:19:29 What’s Next for Jaimie’s Research 1:24:46 The Need for Friendship for Happiness 1:29:34 Where to Find Dr Krems - Get access to every episode 10 hours before YouTube by subscribing for free on Spotify - https://spoti.fi/2LSimPn or Apple Podcasts - https://apple.co/2MNqIgw Get my free Reading List of 100 life-changing books here - https://chriswillx.com/books/ - Get in touch in the comments below or head to... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx Email: https://chriswillx.com/contact/

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Nov 16, 20221h 30mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Female Friendships, Sexual Politics, and Hidden Evolutionary Strategies Explained

  1. Dr. Jaimie Krems and Chris Williamson explore how male and female friendships differ structurally and psychologically, emphasizing women's intense dyadic bonds, vulnerability to jealousy, and complex alliance dynamics. They discuss how venting, gossip, and wardrobe choices function as strategic social signals in female intrasexual competition, including reputation management around promiscuity and loyalty.
  2. The conversation then connects sexual strategies to broader moral and political attitudes, arguing that opposition to abortion, contraception, and casual sex often reflects underlying mating strategies more than explicit moral reasoning. They also examine how body shape versus body size affects stigma, why 'dad bods' can signal good fathering, and how casual sex is wrongly equated with low self-esteem in women.
  3. Throughout, Krems frames friendship as an underappreciated but evolutionarily central domain, with jealousy and friend-guarding serving adaptive functions similar to mate-guarding. She concludes by outlining new cross-cultural research on what makes a “good friend” and urging greater scientific and personal attention to the complexities of adult friendships.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Male and female friendships are built differently and break differently.

Men tend to have larger, looser, activity-based groups that tolerate conflict and reconcile more; women favor intense, one-on-one emotional bonds that are more fragile and can end acrimoniously because of shared secrets and higher relational investment.

Venting can be a covert competitive tactic that protects your own reputation.

Framing derogation as emotional venting (“I’m so frustrated, she canceled again…”) harms the target’s reputation as much as overt insults but makes the venter seem less malicious, preserving their likability and perceived non-aggressiveness.

Female competition centers on hidden traits and reputations that are hard to disprove.

Accusations about promiscuity, loyalty, and trustworthiness are potent because women’s sociosexual behavior is less observable and harder to ‘refute’ than men’s resource cues, making reputation management crucial in female social and mating markets.

Wardrobe choices are strategic responses to female social environments, not just male gaze.

Women dress more modestly when entering new female groups to avoid aggression and exclusion, because revealing clothing signals sexual availability that other women may see as a threat to mates and to the “price” of sex in the local mating market.

Opposition to abortion often reflects mating strategies more than stated moral concerns.

People with more restricted, long-term sexual strategies benefit if casual sex is costly or risky; Krems’ data show that those who say “abortion is murder” preferentially support policies that punish women rather than equally life-saving measures like better neonatal care or contraception, indicating a strategic interest in constraining sexual freedom.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

Female friendships tend to be shorter lived and more fragile than these more robust multi-male friendship groups.

Dr. Jaimie Krems

You can’t show everybody how little sex you’re having.

Chris Williamson

We’ve cast these challenges as dyadic challenges, but we haven’t thought about the fact that my friends inevitably and frequently interact with people who aren’t me—and those interactions affect my friendship and me.

Dr. Jaimie Krems

If it’s so and solely maladaptive, selection would’ve gotten rid of it… jealousy is probably not so and solely maladaptive.

Dr. Jaimie Krems

Friendship is an umbrella term for about 60 different challenges… maybe we should pay as much attention to our friendships as we do about where our genitals go.

Dr. Jaimie Krems

Sex differences in friendship structure, expectations, and conflictFemale intrasexual competition: venting, gossip, promiscuity stigma, and wardrobe signalingFriend jealousy, friend-guarding, and the adaptive role of jealousyBody shape vs. body size: stigma, waist-to-hip ratio, and the ‘dad bod’ effectSexual strategies (restricted vs. unrestricted) and attitudes toward abortion, religion, and sexual normsStereotypes about casual sex and women’s self-esteemThe complexity and neglected importance of adult friendships for wellbeing

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