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Modern WisdomHave We Reached The End Of The Woke Debate? - Mike Solana
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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT
Is The Woke Era Over? Mike Solana On Memes, Media, Power Shifts
- Chris Williamson and Mike Solana discuss whether the 'woke vs anti‑woke' culture war is fading and being replaced by a more fragmented, unclear ideological landscape shaped by internet meme warfare. They examine how platforms like Twitter/X, TikTok, Threads and others are segmenting political tribes, and how Elon Musk’s takeover of Twitter collapsed the old state-aligned narrative and broadened acceptable speech. The conversation ranges across transactional dating apps, the rise of trad-right aesthetics, Trump vs Biden, the TikTok ban, China, higher education, and the economics of modern media. Throughout, Solana argues that legacy institutions are collapsing, incentives drive outrage cycles, and new movements on both left and right lack a coherent positive vision of what they actually want.
IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING
5 ideasThe old 'woke vs anti‑woke' battlefield is fading, replaced by confusion.
Solana argues the prior era of a tight, enforced progressive narrative—backed by media, institutions, and platform censorship—has largely collapsed, especially post‑COVID and post‑Twitter acquisition, leaving a messy landscape where many people must now decide what they actually believe rather than just what they oppose.
Internet meme culture now drives real-world politics and framing.
From DeSantis’ anti‑lab‑grown meat photo‑op to Dark Brandon, politicians increasingly use 'memetic visual language' designed for online tribes, showing that aesthetics and in‑group memes are a serious political tool, not just frivolous internet content.
Outrage cycles are structurally incentivized by the ‘shiny object’ dynamic.
Williamson’s six‑step 'culture war shiny object cycle' explains how fringe stories get supercharged: right‑wing outrage amplifies them, left‑wing counter‑outrage doubles down, then meta‑commentary critiques the whole thing—yet everyone keeps engaging because each iteration adds just enough novelty to feel new.
Media is shifting from ad‑driven clickbait to smaller, identity‑aligned subscriptions.
With ad revenue collapsing for outlets like BuzzFeed and Vice, Solana says sustainable media must rely on subscribers who pay to have their worldview clarified and affirmed, plus ancillary products. This shrinks the industry and makes funding slow, expensive investigative work much harder.
Elite universities persist despite costs because government-backed loans distort risk.
Solana contends US colleges function as extremely expensive, often ideological institutions that should have been disciplined by market forces; but federal loan guarantees and non-dischargeable student debt prevent rational risk assessment, keeping tuition high and institutions insulated from normal economic pressure.
WORDS WORTH SAVING
5 quotesInstagram is like a Yellow Pages for hot people who are for sale.
— Mike Solana
The internet is a world of based Greek statues fighting gender‑queer they/them anime fairies.
— Mike Solana
The story became so absolutely clownish and so unpopular that it began to fall apart, and that’s around the time that Elon bought Twitter.
— Mike Solana
Pessimists are usually right. It’s a safe bet to make that something new is not gonna work.
— Mike Solana
We want to believe that someone is in charge, because if someone was in charge that would be great. But the bigger problem seems to be nihilism at the top—and no one is actually in charge.
— Mike Solana
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