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How To Win The Algorithm, Even If You Hate It - Dylan Gossett (Live Performance)

Dylan Gossett is a country singer, songwriter, and music producer. Dylan's breakout hit 'Coal' took him from an aspiring musician in Austin, Texas, to a rising name in country music. But what did that seemingly overnight success actually take, how has it changed his life, and what has he learned about making a living doing what he loves? Expect to learn the creative process behind Dylan’s hit ‘Coal’ and the decisions he made to engineer it for max virality, what it was like being an overnight success, how Dylan’s writing process differs from the typical Nashville music machine, the impacts of AI on songwriting and the music industry as a whole, how to not be captured by your audience and let your creativity thrive, and much more… - Get up to $350 off the Eight Sleep Pod 6 at ⁠https://eightsleep.com/modernwisdom⁠ Get 35% off your first subscription on the best supplements from Momentous at https://livemomentous.com/modernwisdom Get the brand new Whoop 5.0 and your first month for free at https://join.whoop.com/modernwisdom Get 10% discount on all Gymshark products at https://gym.sh/modernwisdom (use code MODERNWISDOM10) - 0:00 The Story Behind Dylan’s Breakout Song ‘Coal’ 9:56 How to Avoid Getting Lost in the Music Industry 18:11 Why Being Unpolished Feels More Authentic 20:50 Is Country Music Having a Renaissance? 22:47 Is the Song Actually Good or Just Viral? 28:07 Why Staying Successful Is Harder Than Getting There 32:29 Inside Dylan’s Songwriting Process 37:28 Do Artists Still Write Their Own Songs? 51:02 Why We Shouldn’t Always Take Shortcuts 01:01:16 Is Emotion the Secret to Dylan’s Music? 01:03:08 Why Sad Men Are Taking Over Country Music 01:09:24 The Hardest Emotions to Turn Into Music 01:14:52 Don’t Lose Yourself Chasing an Audience 01:22:59 A Snippet From Dylan’s New Album - Get in touch in the comments below or head to... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx Email: https://chriswillx.com/contact/

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Sep 26, 20261h 29mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Dylan Gossett on staying authentic while creativity outpaces algorithms

  1. Dylan Gossett performs and breaks down how “Coal” was written quickly, shelved for years, and later became a massive hit after a TikTok post finally connected.
  2. The conversation explores authenticity versus performative ‘unpolished’ branding, and how modern music marketing incentives creators to optimize for algorithms instead of artistry.
  3. Gossett describes the music business reality: success brings management overhead, higher expectations, and less access to the quiet ‘life lived’ that great songs draw from.
  4. They examine industry dynamics including country’s recent commercial resurgence, the ecosystem of coordinated viral promotion (e.g., ‘truck edits’), and the difficulty of sustaining touring success amid high ticket prices and ‘Blue Dot Fever.’
  5. A long segment debates AI and convenience culture, arguing that shortcuts can erase the meaning of the win—especially in art and sentimental communication—while acknowledging that democratized tools also reduce gatekeeping.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

A breakout can be fast—but the runway behind it is usually long.

Gossett wrote “Coal” quickly, then sat on it for a year or two until a friend and his wife pushed him to post. The eventual breakthrough was less a perfectly engineered rollout and more a mix of readiness, timing, and trusting the song’s writing.

Resisting the promo “formula” can be a strategic choice, not naïveté.

He describes hating the typical TikTok playbook (endless teasers, pre-saves, repetitive posting) and intentionally avoided over-posting “Coal,” sharing it only a handful of times. The conversation frames this as protecting the art’s integrity and avoiding “performing authenticity.”

Growth often threatens the very conditions that made you good.

Both discuss how success increases admin, meetings, and expectations, which can crowd out the solitude and lived experience that fuels good writing. Gossett deletes/unfollows industry accounts to preserve mental space and maintain a life outside the job.

Marketing can create exposure; it can’t reliably manufacture resonance.

They distinguish a “good song” from an “algorithm-friendly” one by looking for telltale signs of coordinated pushes (e.g., sudden waves of ‘truck edits’ and meme ecosystems). Gossett notes marketing can amplify reach, but it can’t reliably save a mediocre track.

The ‘hard way’ preserves authorship, pride, and personal transformation.

A major theme is choosing higher-friction paths—writing the bridge yourself, crafting the message by hand, living enough life to have something to say—rather than outsourcing the final 10% to AI or convenience tools. They argue hard-won outputs change the creator, while easy wins are forgettable.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

Like, dude, even music as an artist, I think people don't understand it is such a business. Like, I, I think people imagine artists and myself just being like, "Look, I strum the guitar. I show up to shows. We collect our money, and that's our lot." Like, that's, I feel, there's, at times where I feel a lot more like a business manager than, than an artist, for sure.

— Dylan Gossett

Back when I was writing Coal, I was not writing it for anything. I was just like, "This is my outlet. This is what, this is my passion. I love playing guitar. I'm just gonna pick it up and write." I had no reason to do that.

— Dylan Gossett

People are smarter than they ever are. Like, dude, you're not gonna fake it.

— Dylan Gossett

I'm getting dumber by the day.

— Dylan Gossett

"Do hard shit, not because it's fun, but because the win actually means something. You bled for it. You broke for it. You earned it. Easy wins are forgettable. Hard ones change you. That's the point."

— Chris Williamson

Origin story of “Coal” and TikTok breakthroughAuthenticity vs performative ‘unpolished’ brandingMusic industry as business and expectation creepVirality mechanics (edits, coordinated pushes, ‘truck’ ecosystems)Touring economics: ticket pricing and ‘Blue Dot Fever’Songwriting process: melody-first gibberish to wordsAI, convenience culture, and the value of hard work in art

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