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Investigating The World Of Modern Gurus - Helen Lewis

Helen Lewis is a journalist at The Atlantic and an author Humanity has become much less religious and in the ruins of this fresh, listless world, bereft of traditional insight, a cadre of new gurus have risen to take the high priests' place of dispensing insights about how to live. Helen's new BBC Sounds documentary series delves into this world of secular gurus. Expect to learn why a Canadian man has started drinking his own urine, why Steve Jobs was much more than just a tech inventor, how much it costs to be accused of racism over dinner while being banned from crying, why so many people are turning away from mainstream media, Helen's post-mortem on the IDW, the mortal problem that productivity gurus are helping address and much more... Sponsors: Get $250 discount on Sacred Hunting’s trips at https://www.sacredhunting.com/modernwisdom Get the Whoop 4.0 for free and get your first month for free at http://join.whoop.com/modernwisdom (discount automatically applied) Get a Free Sample Pack of all LMNT Flavours at https://www.drinklmnt.com/modernwisdom (discount automatically applied) Extra Stuff: Listen to The New Gurus - https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001g9sq/episodes/player Follow Helen on Twitter - https://twitter.com/helenlewis Get my free Reading List of 100 books to read before you die → https://chriswillx.com/books/ To support me on Patreon (thank you): https://www.patreon.com/modernwisdom #gurus #crypto #health - 00:00 Intro 00:24 Helen’s Interest in Weird Internet Sub-cultures 06:13 The Fascinating Case Study of Brian Rose 11:06 Should a Guru Be Flawless or Struggling? 15:00 What Human Needs are Gurus Tapping Into? 24:56 Our Current Lack of Faith in Institutions 34:10 Public Figures Are Remembered By Their Transgressions 39:42 Helen’s Study of a Urine Drinker 46:53 The Worst Sub-cultures on the Internet 54:10 What Helen Learned from Crypto Gurus 1:00:20 Paying to be Called Racist Over Dinner 1:20:42 Steve Jobs & Jordan Peterson as Gurus 1:33:36 Where to Find Helen - Get access to every episode 10 hours before YouTube by subscribing for free on Spotify - https://spoti.fi/2LSimPn or Apple Podcasts - https://apple.co/2MNqIgw Get my free Reading List of 100 life-changing books here - https://chriswillx.com/books/ - Get in touch in the comments below or head to... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx Email: https://chriswillx.com/contact/

Helen LewisguestChris Williamsonhost
Dec 28, 20221h 34mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Why We Follow Modern Gurus: Internet Subcultures, Certainty, and Need

  1. Journalist Helen Lewis and host Chris Williamson examine the rise of modern ‘gurus’ across the internet—spanning wellness, productivity, crypto, dating, spirituality, and politics—and why anxious, uncertain people gravitate toward them. They argue that as traditional institutions and religion lose authority, individuals increasingly seek certainty, community, and life-strategies from charismatic online figures, some altruistic and some exploitative. The conversation explores recurring guru patterns: reinvention across movements, monetized outrage, in‑group/out‑group dynamics, and a deliberate performance of authenticity and struggle. They also discuss gender dynamics, media trust, male loneliness, self-punitive trends among liberal women, and how to consume both gurus and mainstream media more critically.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Gurus thrive where people feel precarious, anxious, or directionless.

Moments like new parenthood, health scares, dating confusion, or political upheaval drive people online for reassurance and clear rules—creating demand for figures who promise certainty and a roadmap.

Modern community is interest-based, not geographic, creating guru niches everywhere.

As local, place-based communities weaken, people cluster in online subcultures—crypto, parenting, wellness, productivity, manosphere, social justice—each with its own ‘experts’ who can rapidly accrue outsized influence.

Watch for three major guru red flags: certainty, tribalism, and monetization.

Lewis and Williamson highlight gurus who: speak with absolute confidence and few caveats; weaponize in‑group vs out‑group framing (“they’re silencing us”); and attach expensive courses, products, or schemes to their advice.

Many prominent gurus repeatedly reinvent themselves across ideological movements.

Lewis notes ‘extremophiles’ who migrate from new atheism to religion, from Islamism to anti-vax activism, or from one grift to another—suggesting the core driver is a need for status and attention more than consistent belief.

Institutional media is flawed but still crucial for collective fact-finding.

Lewis defends processes like fact-checking and transparent corrections as imperfect but self-correcting, contrasting them with solo creators who can be audience-captured and rarely submit to comparable scrutiny.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

Anybody who wants to be listened to, by definition, you should probably be quite suspicious of.

Helen Lewis

A small percentage of people aren’t being victimized; they’re just assholes.

Helen Lewis (paraphrasing her stance on online grievance culture)

Binding people together over mutual hatred of an out-group is significantly easier than binding them over mutual love of an in-group.

Chris Williamson

The great tragedy of social media is that you become what people need you to be for them to be who they want to be.

Helen Lewis

Gurus are tapping into a desire for reassurance that everything’s going to be okay in a world that feels very scary.

Helen Lewis

The psychology of modern gurus and why people seek them outInternet subcultures replacing local communities as sources of identity and adviceRed flags for harmful gurus: certainty, tribalism, and financial exploitationCase studies: pickup artists, crypto influencers, wellness extremists, Liver King, Brian Rose, IDW, Jordan Peterson, Steve JobsGender, dating, feminism, and the manosphere’s grievance narrativesMedia ecosystems, institutional trust, and the role of mainstream vs independent creatorsMale loneliness, social connection, and the value of single-sex or affinity spaces

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