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Modern WisdomMimetic Desire: Why Do We Want? - Luke Burgis | Modern Wisdom Podcast 344
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At a glance
WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT
How Mimetic Desire Quietly Shapes Our Wants, Conflicts, And Lives
- Luke Burgis explains René Girard’s concept of mimetic desire: most of what humans want is learned by imitating others, not generated independently. Social media, marketing, and culture act as engines that manufacture and amplify these desires, often without our awareness, leading to convergence of goals, rivalry, and even societal crises.
- He distinguishes between basic needs (like food, water, safety) and higher-level desires (careers, status, lifestyle) that are largely mimetic and not arranged in any neat hierarchy as Maslow suggested. Burgis describes how mimetic desire can both spur positive innovation (e.g., Lamborghini vs Ferrari) and fuel destructive rivalry, scapegoating, and polarization.
- The conversation explores how signaling, fashion, celebrity behavior, and startup culture all exploit mimetic dynamics, including famous examples like Instagram aesthetics, Conor McGregor, and Elizabeth Holmes. Burgis also outlines Girard’s idea of the scapegoat mechanism as a way groups resolve mimetic crises by uniting against a common enemy.
- He closes by arguing that we cannot escape mimetic desire, but we can gain agency over it by recognizing our models, reflecting on the history of our desires, periodically stepping back from our environments, and deliberately choosing better models and longer-term goals.
IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING
5 ideasMost higher-level desires are imitated, not self-generated.
Beyond basic needs like food, water, and safety, our aspirations—career paths, lifestyles, brands, even where to vacation—are typically borrowed from models around us rather than arising spontaneously from within.
Social media and marketing are powerful mimetic desire machines.
Platforms like Instagram and tactics like engineered PR stunts (e.g., Bernays’ ‘torches of freedom’ cigarette campaign) create and amplify desires by showing us what others appear to want, often making us miserable because we confuse these memetic desires with our own.
Mimetic desire naturally leads to rivalry and conflict through sameness.
As people converge on the same desires and goals—like students chasing the same elite jobs—models become obstacles, and conflict arises more from our similarity and competition over shared objects than from our differences.
Scapegoating is a recurring way groups resolve mimetic crises.
When everyone is imitating and reacting to everyone else, societies often regain cohesion by uniting against a scapegoat, concentrating blame on one person or group and expelling them—an ancient dynamic still visible in modern political polarization.
Imitation can be creative and constructive when consciously directed.
The Lamborghini story shows how rivalry and imitation of ‘the best’ can drive innovation and excellence—as long as you recognize when rivalry is turning self-destructive and choose to step out before it consumes you.
WORDS WORTH SAVING
5 quotesWe want what other people want because other people want it.
— Dana Tortorici (quoted by Luke Burgis)
In the universe of desire, there is no hierarchy.
— Luke Burgis
Our conflict does not arise primarily from our differences. It actually arises from our sameness.
— Luke Burgis
Very few people even acknowledge that this is a hidden force in the world, a hidden force that is to psychology what gravity is to physics.
— Luke Burgis
If we don’t have any kind of model that transcends our environment, we’re constantly subject to whatever the tyranny of our age happens to be.
— Luke Burgis
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