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Stoicism: How To Think Like A Roman Emperor - Donald Robertson | Modern Wisdom Podcast 274

Donald Robertson is a Psychotherapist and an author. People are getting tattoos of Marcus Aurelius, copies of his Meditations sold out at the beginning of the pandemic and yet he was just some bloke two thousand years ago. What made his Stoicism so special and what is there to learn from his Stoic life? Expect to learn how stoicism and cognitive behavioural therapy are intrinsically linked, why an existential crisis can be useful, how Marcus Aurelius dealt with his anger, why Donald thinks we lost the wisdom of ancient Greece and much more... Sponsors: Get 83% discount & 3 months free from Surfshark VPN at https://surfshark.deals/MODERNWISDOM (use code MODERNWISDOM) Extra Stuff: Buy How To Think Like A Roman Emperor - https://amzn.to/39JzkgS Follow Donald on Twitter - https://twitter.com/DonJRobertson Get my free Ultimate Life Hacks List to 10x your daily productivity → https://chriswillx.com/lifehacks/ To support me on Patreon (thank you): https://www.patreon.com/modernwisdom #stoicism #marcusaurelius #psychology - Listen to all episodes online. Search "Modern Wisdom" on any Podcast App or click here: iTunes: https://apple.co/2MNqIgw Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2LSimPn Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/modern-wisdom - Get in touch in the comments below or head to... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx Email: modernwisdompodcast@gmail.com

Donald RobertsonguestChris Williamsonhost
Jan 24, 20211h 32mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Stoicism, Anger, And Purpose: Applying Ancient Wisdom To Chaotic Times

  1. Donald Robertson, a CBT-trained psychotherapist and Stoicism scholar, explains how ancient Stoic philosophy—especially Marcus Aurelius—offers a rational, secular framework for living well amid modern chaos, social media outrage, and value confusion.
  2. He links Stoicism’s influence on cognitive behavioral therapy to practical tools like cognitive distancing, value clarification, anger management, and voluntary hardship, arguing these address today’s epidemics of anxiety, normlessness, and political polarization.
  3. Robertson contrasts Stoic engagement with adversity against avoidance, consumerism, and shallow self-help, emphasizing the need to examine one’s values, confront mortality, and choose meaningful activities over mere comfort or distraction.
  4. Throughout, he uses historical anecdotes (Socrates, Hadrian, Hercules, Marcus Aurelius) and modern examples (Capitol riots, online outrage, pandemic lockdowns) to show how Stoic principles can build resilience, courage, and a more intentional life.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Clarify your values or your life will be driven by avoidance and habit.

Robertson notes that most people spend virtually zero time each week on activities aligned with their core values; without conscious reflection, we default to avoiding discomfort (scrolling, numbing, busywork) instead of doing what we genuinely find meaningful.

Treat anger as a primary target for self-improvement, not a side issue.

Stoics saw anger as the most socially destructive emotion, and modern research confirms it distorts judgment, fuels prejudice, and amplifies political extremism; learning to pause, cool down, and delay action when angry is a powerful, underused growth lever.

Use cognitive distancing: describe events factually, not rhetorically.

Instead of saying “they destroyed me online,” describe it neutrally (“they disagreed with my point”); this Stoic-style ‘objective representation’ dampens emotional escalation and counters the algorithmic ‘digital Sophists’ of social media that profit from outrage.

Broaden your perspective to dilute emotional overreactions.

When upset, we fixate narrowly on a single remark or event; deliberately recalling the wider context (someone’s other qualities, your long-term goals, the larger situation) reduces the intensity of anger or anxiety and leads to more balanced responses.

Seek out manageable adversity to build resilience and meaning.

Stoics advised ‘voluntary hardship’—choosing challenges like discomfort, difficult conversations, or career risks—much like picking a sparring partner who stretches you but doesn’t overwhelm you; life satisfaction tends to come from such challenges, not passive comfort.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

Nobody's perfect, nobody's wise. But to feel the kind of pain of lacking wisdom, and to crave it, and to realize it's the most important thing in life, and to dedicate your life to this kind of endless journey is really what life is actually all about.

Donald Robertson (paraphrasing Socratic-Stoic view)

The unexamined life is not worth living.

Donald Robertson quoting Socrates

People talk about self-help, but although we’re surrounded by self-help advice, I still feel there’s a massive lack of reflection in modern society.

Donald Robertson

To learn how to die is to unlearn how to be a slave.

Donald Robertson quoting Seneca

Stop arguing about what it means to be a good man and just be one.

Donald Robertson quoting Marcus Aurelius

Why modern audiences (especially in tech) are drawn to StoicismStoicism’s relationship to cognitive behavioral therapy and self-helpAnger, media outrage, and political polarization through a Stoic lensValues, meaning, and the problem of a largely unexamined lifeCognitive distancing and ‘objective representation’ as emotional toolsStoic attitudes toward adversity, voluntary hardship, and mortalityHistorical context: Marcus Aurelius, Socrates, Cynics, and Christianity’s overlap with Stoicism

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