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Studio Launch Party - Indian Fetishes, Betting on Wars & Tom Cruise

Welcome to the new Studio! To celebrate, I put together a new episode style. In this launch episode we explore: - The world’s worst phone call of all time - If the act of self-improvement is problematic - Tom Cruise stops by the new set - and much more… Guests: - Michael Smoak is a podcast host, entrepreneur, and investor. - Shaan Puri is an entrepreneur, former CEO, podcaster and an angel investor. - George Mack is a writer, marketer and entrepreneur. - 0:00 Intro & How Nikocado Trolled Us All 1:51 The Worst Phone Call of All Time 9:04 Sylvester Stallone Brute Forced Success 11:57 Are GLP-1s Killing Romance? 18:56 Did Djokovic Take Discipline Too Far? 22:23 The Self-Help Trap 25:31 We’re Just Betting On Everything Now 36:29 The World’s Best Tom Cruise Impersonator 42:50 India’s Biggest Fetish 46:36 Insecurity Is Actually An Advantage 49:45 Gossip Is More Useful Than You Think 52:47 The Most Important 2 Seconds of Your Life 01:06:16 Have Adults Forgotten How To Play? 01:10:38 When People Take Stoicism Too Far 01:16:48 The Most Uncomfortable Mukbang Ever 01:25:01 2 Beers, 2 Cigs, 2 Rubik’s Cubes World Record 01:31:10 Florida Man Does It Again 01:35:02 Ice Packs In The Sauna - Get up to $350 off the Eight Sleep Pod 5 at https://eightsleep.com/modernwisdom Get 160+ biomarkers tested for just $1/day, plus an extra $25 off at https://functionhealth.com/modernwisdom Get a Free Sample Pack of LMNT’s most popular flavours with your first purchase at https://drinklmnt.com/modernwisdom Get 35% off your first subscription on the best supplements from Momentous at https://livemomentous.com/modernwisdom - Get access to every episode 10 hours before YouTube by subscribing for free on Spotify - https://spoti.fi/2LSimPn or Apple Podcasts - https://apple.co/2MNqIgw Get my free Reading List of 100 life-changing books here - https://chriswillx.com/books/ Try my productivity energy drink Neutonic here - https://neutonic.com/modernwisdom - Get in touch in the comments below or head to... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx Email: https://chriswillx.com/contact/

Chris WilliamsonhostMichael SmoakguestGeorge MackguestShaan Puriguest
Mar 30, 20261h 39mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:00 – 1:51

    Intro & How Nikocado Trolled Us All

    1. CW

      Hello, people. Big news. I'm on tour in Australia, but I couldn't wait to share the brand-new studio and a brand-new episode style with you. There's no rules, no structure. It's just me hanging out, uh, and I'm bringing some friends with me. [cheering] [laughing] Enjoy the episode. See ya. [clicking] What's that thing? There's a thing that people have where they hate the sound of, like... [mouth noises]

    2. MS

      Misophonia. I have it real bad.

    3. CW

      No way.

    4. MS

      Dude, if I hear you eat cereal next to me, I'll f- try to break your neck.

    5. CW

      [laughs]

    6. MS

      It's the worst.

    7. GM

      Don't all women have this?

    8. MS

      Excuse me?

    9. GM

      Or every woman? [laughing] Every woman I've ever, like, dated has-

    10. MS

      Come the fuck again? [laughing]

    11. CW

      Uh, I saw this video of some guy that's got one of those big tubes, and it makes a [whooshing]

    12. GM

      Mm-hmm.

    13. CW

      So that kills you.

    14. MS

      Ah.

    15. CW

      But-

    16. MS

      It's worse, dude, like a... Like, when people do the mukbangs with their microphones. Oh, the visceral rage.

    17. CW

      What's a mukbang?

    18. MS

      Like, I... You know, the- they're eating into a-

    19. GM

      Eat and slurp

    20. MS

      ... fucking JBL microphone.

    21. CW

      Oh, uh, who was the fucking guy-

    22. GM

      You don't know mukbang?

    23. CW

      ... that psyoped everyone?

    24. GM

      That's crazy.

    25. CW

      Who was the, the king mukbanger that psyoped everyone?

    26. MS

      Oh, Nikocado Avocado.

    27. CW

      Yes. Thank you.

    28. GM

      Did he die?

    29. MS

      No, he lost, like, 200 pounds.

    30. CW

      No, he lost all of the weight.

  2. 1:51 – 9:04

    The Worst Phone Call of All Time

    1. CW

      All right. What do you got?

    2. GM

      Oh, wanna hop straight in?

    3. CW

      I do.

    4. GM

      Okay.

    5. CW

      Show me what you got.

    6. GM

      Um, let me... I tell you what, I'll give a story. I'll tell you a story about the worst phone call of all time. [laughs]

    7. MS

      You have my interest.

    8. GM

      Uh-huh.

    9. CW

      Okay.

    10. GM

      So it's... Picture this. We're gonna go back to 1970s Surrey, uh, in England. There's, like, a beautiful old farmhouse called Old Croft, and a musician has just moved in. And he's in a band, and they've just had their first, like, top 40 song. So it's at that point of a musician's career where either this is, like, "We're about to take off," or we had that, like, one blip and we're done. And he's just mortgaged, like, the most insane house for, like, his wealth size, like, way above his income, 'cause he's betting on his future success. And he's m- like, this is the childhood sweetheart dream. He met his wife when they were 11 years old in drama class, and they've got two kids together. So they've moved into this house together, this beautiful old farmhouse with their two kids, and, like, he's managed to get the deal on it so it's slightly cheaper than he can afford, but it's still way too expensive, but the whole thing needs a whole paint job. It's like the whole building needs a load of different work. Kind of like this stuff here, right? Um-

    11. CW

      Shots fired

    12. GM

      ... and so he, [laughs] he has to go on tour, um, go try and crack America to see if he can pay for this house. So he's kind of leaving the house. There's painters there that are doing everything up, and he's kind of saying goodbye to his family. And as he's saying goodbye, he doesn't know if this is gonna be the last time he sees this house, um, or if this is gonna be the new family home. So he goes on tour for a year. Um, and surprisingly, the tour goes really, really well. So he's basically gonna pay for this mortgage. And at the end of the tour, he's having a phone call with his wife, and it's not going well. And she basically confesses, whilst he's been away, she's been having an affair. And, like, his heart just drops. He's like, "Who?" So he starts thinking of if it's, like, a singer or somebody else in the band. The guy she was having the affair with was the painter-

    13. MS

      [laughs]

    14. GM

      ... he was paying for the house. So he, like, go... He just loses his mind. He ends up flying back from the tour, tries to win her back. The... Not only can he not win her back, she basically says, "I'm taking the kids, and I'm leaving to Canada." So he sits down the band, and he says, "Well, I think the, the band's over. Like, I've got to go..." Like he says, "No remote work. I've got to go, and I'm gonna fly to Canada and try and put my marriage together." So the band say, "Hey, we'll just do a solo hiatus. We'll all go on solo, and we'll get back together." So he goes to Canada for three months, putting it, putting the marriage back together. Flies back three months later. It's completely failed, and the only place he has to stay is he goes back to this old house, and he says he walks in, and he says, "The paint was still wet with the man who cuckolded me."

    15. MS

      [laughs]

    16. GM

      So he go- he can't... So he's just f- fuming. So he leaves, goes to his favorite restaurant, orders a ravioli, and he's just staring at this ravioli. He's starving 'cause he's not eaten in days, and this ravioli's staring at him. He's staring back at the ravioli. He just can't eat. He goes back to the house, and it's just this old derelict house that he's made all this money and paid for, but his family are no longer there. So he starts drinking. He's calling her, and she's ignoring his calls in Canada. He starts drinking. He's calling her. And finally, he goes, "Well, I've got to start channeling this thing." So he decides, he looks at the master bedroom that she'd slept with the guy who was on his payroll whilst he's on tour, and goes, "Well, you know what? This is gonna become my new music studio." So he starts, like, channeling all the energy that's coming up. And as he's, like, in the moment, he grabs the invoice from the painting and decorating company that slept with his wife, and he writes a song on it, okay? So should I play... I've got it on my phone. I'll play the song. You ready? This is the song that he writes.

    17. CW

      [laughs]

    18. MS

      You're shitting me.

    19. GM

      So that's how Phil Collins wrote "In the Air Tonight." It's on the invoice of the painter that slept with his wife. And what's interesting, what's funny about-

    20. CW

      Did you know this story? [laughs]

    21. GM

      What's so... What's funny about this, um, this story-Is, um-

    22. SP

      Nothing?

    23. GM

      Wallace? [laughs]

    24. SP

      [laughs] Fuck. Saddest story ever. We got a banger out of it.

    25. GM

      But he-- Well, anyway, so Wallace, he's in this house, um, or in this new music studio that he's created. He then is in a fugue state, writes "Against All Odds," which goes on to win a Grammy. So he makes that song then, "Against All Odds" the next day. What's interesting about the story, the funny part is, um, what he makes "Against All Odds", um, obviously becomes a smash hit on the radio, and there's a guy in Manchester who's listening to the song on loop because he split up with his partner five years ago, his girlfriend five years ago. So he's listening to this song thinking about her, sees her at a bus station, um, and they end up going out on a date, spend all night till 6:00 AM, they get back together. S- within six months are engaged. They have three children. Second child was me. So the whole-

    26. SP

      Whoa.

    27. GM

      So the whole thing.

    28. SP

      The whole thing was-

    29. GM

      [laughs]

    30. SP

      What?

  3. 9:04 – 11:57

    Sylvester Stallone Brute Forced Success

    1. SP

      Have you guys heard the full, uh, Rocky story? The Sylvester Stallone-

    2. GM

      Yes

    3. SP

      ... Rocky backstory?

    4. GM

      No.

    5. SP

      Oh, this is insane. You know this one. So Sylvester Stallone wants to be an actor and, uh, you know, but he's got this, like, birth defect. So when he was born, I think the doctors, they did something, that's why he has that crooked smile. So he had, like, a medical, almost, like, a malpractice issue when he was born that messed up his face, but he wants to be an actor. He's a-- talks kind of funny, faces kind of funny, so he's not getting any roles. Keeps going to casting auditions. No role, no role, no role. So he says, "All right, if I can't get casted in somebody else's movie, I'll write my own." So he goes to his house, and again, like, sort of in that fugue state, he basically does two things. He paints all the windows black, and he's like, "I'm not leaving this house. I don't even wanna know if it's night or day until I finish this script." He hates writing, so he's like, "I just gotta do this fast, 'cause I hate writing." So in three days, he writes the script for Rocky. And he has-- And the story of Rocky, which is, like, this average guy wants to be a boxer, but it's not really happening for him. This- it's a story of him wanting to be an actor, but he just chose boxing 'cause it's more, like, physical, like, knockout punch. It's easier for the audience to understand. But it's his story. And so then he goes and he pitches the script, and people are like, "Actually, this script's pretty good." He's like, "Awesome." And they're like, "We'll buy it." He said, "Great." He's like, "And I'm Rocky." And they're like, "No, no, you're not Rocky. We'll buy the script, but you're not Rocky." And so he has an offer, I think for a million dollars or something like that, which at the time was a lot of money, and he turns it down. He ends up taking, I think, 25 grand or some ridiculously low amount of money for the script, but he gets to be Rocky. And he's struggling to make ends meet. He literally, he's, like, eating, like, canned beans. He ends up selling his dog because he can't feed his dog. So he's like, his dog was his only companion in the world. He goes, he sells it to a guy and gets, like, a couple hundred bucks for his dog, and then it's just like, fuck. He's just literally rock bottom. To film Rocky, he basically films the whole movie on, like, a million dollar budget, handheld camera, no permits, sneaking into things. They film Rocky that way. Okay. Rocky becomes this huge hit. He basically gets this money. He goes and he [laughs] first thing he does, he goes back and buys back his dog. The guy doesn't wanna sell it to him. He's like, "I love this dog." And he ends up paying 25 grand to get his dog back. [laughs] And then that was basically the, the start of Sylvester Stallone's story, was this, like, three-day bender he had to write the story of Rocky. How insane is that?

    6. GM

      Isn't the guy in, in the film as well, right?

    7. SP

      And that was part of the deal. It was like, "I'll give you 25 grand and you get to be a cameo in the movie." And he's in the movie Rocky. [laughs] The guy, he's like by the liquor store is the guy who he sold his dog to.

    8. GM

      I didn't know any of that.

    9. SP

      Holy fucking shit.

    10. GM

      I didn't know that Sylvester Stallone was-

    11. SP

      Isn't it better than the actual story of Rocky?

    12. GM

      And that dog was George. [laughs]

    13. SP

      [laughs]

    14. GM

      And Sylvester Stallone is George's dad.

    15. SP

      [laughs]

    16. GM

      [laughs]

    17. SP

      Oh, it is.

    18. GM

      Yeah. You've got the nose for it. Um...

    19. SP

      [laughs]

    20. GM

      [laughs]

    21. SP

      That would go with you.

    22. GM

      Glass radius.

    23. SP

      That would go you, you big four arms.

    24. GM

      That's true.

  4. 11:57 – 18:56

    Are GLP-1s Killing Romance?

    1. SP

      [laughs]

    2. GM

      So-

    3. MS

      I- in prep for this episode when you told me what the, the theme was of Adult Show and Tell, I got on X for the first time in, I don't know, a year. I never use that platform. Goldmine. What the- [laughs]

    4. SP

      What the hell of a-

    5. MS

      What the hell platform is this?

    6. SP

      Are you about to show us Twitter as the thing you, you, you brought? [laughs]

    7. MS

      I found this beautiful new app. It was bought by a prominent billionaire, I think. No, it-- I don't know how, but the algorithm was so curated to me, despite me not using it, because of, I think, the one-off articles that my friend sent me.

    8. SP

      Mm.

    9. MS

      And one of the articles he sent me was, I think, I think I've got it in there under "GLP-1s Nuke the Ability to Love." Have you guys heard about this?

    10. SP

      Ah, I saw this.

    11. MS

      This is super-

    12. SP

      This is super interesting.

    13. MS

      Do you guys see this?

    14. SP

      No.

    15. CW

      This is great.

    16. MS

      Okay. So we initially thought GLP-1s, like Ozempic, tirzepatide, and retatrutide, just reduced food cravings. Now, we know they work for alcohol, cocaine, gambling, and other addictions too. But do you know what runs on exactly the same circuit? Falling in love. GLP-1 receptors sit in the exact same brain regions that light up when you're in love. The insane thing about them is that they don't just suppress appetite, they suppress wanting in general, including romantic craving another person. Something like 60 million people are now on anti-desire drugs, and it happened in the blink of an eye. I predict in the coming years we will see people on these drugs be less able to fall in love. We will also see them fall out of love or be unable to feel it in relationships that were previously great. If your girlfriend or boyfriend started taking GLPs and your relationship started failing, there's a good chance that's why.

    17. SP

      Wow.

    18. MS

      This sparked-- I went back to, what was his name? Can you scroll up a bit? Dr. Shen Yan, Shen Yong Yang. This sparked-

    19. CW

      Dude, the b- the bravery of trying to pronounce that just now.

    20. MS

      I, I did my very best.

    21. SP

      On air. [laughs]

    22. CW

      [laughs]

    23. MS

      I think I was pretty close.

    24. SP

      You are the courageous.

    25. CW

      You did great.

    26. MS

      That was it, yeah.

    27. CW

      It's just a fucking dice roll.

    28. MS

      But he said it s- instantly.

    29. SP

      What is courage but taking action in fear? [laughs]

    30. MS

      [laughs] I think the, the, this, I went back to his Twitter today to find this. Holy shit, he created a storm in his mentions of people coming after him for this, because-

  5. 18:56 – 22:23

    Did Djokovic Take Discipline Too Far?

    1. SP

      has an equal opposite.

    2. GM

      I, I actually think that's useful in a way because when you have two people that you deeply respect that are completely the opposite, you almost go, you kind of, it's like two things pulling you in that direction, you kind of stay still as a result. Like, one of my favorite stories of all time was, um, no- the, it's the greatest tennis match of all time is what it's called, and it's Novak Djokovic versus Rafael Nadal. It goes on for five sets. Um, I think it's about seven and a half hours. There's a rain break in between. Um, I think Nadal takes the lead. Djokovic takes it back. Nadal takes the lead. There's a tie break that's about 70 minutes long. Like, one tie break is 70 minutes long. They finish the game at I think it's 1:40 AM, and Djokovic just collapses, and there's a part, there's this amazing part in Djokovic's biography where he's talking about discipline, and he's talking about this is what it takes to win. Um, and he's describing how in the aftermath of the game, he sat in the dressing room exhausted, and he's not had any sugar because he's been so disciplined and so focused because this is what it takes. He's not had any sugar in I think it's three years leading up to this. So he allows himself, like, w- a tab of chocolate on his tongue, and he lets it melt, and then he says, "I stopped then immediately, and I was back preparing for the next tournament."

    3. CW

      [laughs]

    4. GM

      And what I love about this story-

    5. SP

      He didn't even chew it

    6. GM

      ... he didn't even chew it.

    7. SP

      [laughs]

    8. GM

      Just let it melt. Just let it m- because this just shows you, like, what it takes, like, the discipline. Meanwhile, Australian Open three years later, Roger Federer wins and eats ice cream every single night.

    9. SP

      Yeah.

    10. GM

      And it's like, oh, like, there's Djokovic, there's Federer, and it's not that either of them were wrong. They kind of just did what worked for them, and that's why I kind of like collecting completely opposite piece of advice.

    11. CW

      Right.

    12. GM

      It's, so for example, Stephen King wrote his entire novel or all his work just raw dogging it. He would just turn up, cup of coffee, stare at a blank screen, make it happen. JK Rowling used a spreadsheet for the whole of Harry Potter. So it's just there's two-

    13. CW

      There's a handwritten spreadsheet. I've seen that

    14. GM

      ... yeah, there's a handwritten spreadsheet. So there's, like, just different approaches, and when you get to the top of any craft, you'll notice that you'll have... It's the same with investing, right? Warren Buffett does almost, uh, only-

    15. CW

      No spreadsheets

    16. GM

      ... invests in things he'll understand.

    17. CW

      Yeah.

    18. GM

      Reads everything, and who's the guy who does it all via algorithms? Um-

    19. SP

      Oh, like S- Jim Simons.

    20. GM

      Yeah.

    21. SP

      Like Renaissance Capital.

    22. GM

      Everything via algorithms. Both billionaires multiple times over. It's really interesting going, "Oh, now I have to pick my own way."

    23. CW

      Mm. Well, it's so idiosyncratic, right?

    24. GM

      Yes.

    25. CW

      Like, you don't know, you don't know what it is that's going to work for you.

    26. GM

      The, the irony is the, the, the way, the one thing that they all have in common often is that they have nothing in common, is that they've kind of done what worked for them. That's the one thing that they actually share.

    27. CW

      I think the underlying principle is compliance, that you have to find something that you can comply to, and that is why it's so idiosyncratic. Like, it has to be different because if you couldn't comply to it, you're not gonna see the results. Like, consistency is super important. So if Djokovic had tried N- Nadal's approach or Nadal had tried Federer's approach, that wouldn't have worked by design.

    28. SP

      Yeah.

    29. CW

      But wasn't it Djokovic that said, "I just like hitting the ball"?

    30. SP

      Yeah. [laughs]

  6. 22:23 – 25:31

    The Self-Help Trap

    1. SP

      Well, I, I had one to show on the advice, self-help advice thing.

    2. GM

      Mm-hmm.

    3. SP

      Did you see the Tim Ferriss blog-

    4. GM

      Yes

    5. SP

      ... he posted I think today or yesterday?

    6. CW

      The, uh, Ouroboros of Infinity.

    7. SP

      Yeah, exactly. So Tim Ferriss, who's, like, helped a lot of people and been a, uh, a, a big, uh, distributor and receiver of self-help, basically writes this post kind of essentially saying, "Gotta be careful with self-help," and, uh, but, but in a pretty personal way. I thought it was kind of an amazing post about, like, if you go through this loop, the, the type of person who wants self-help, they wanna be happy, and so they try to fix a problem to make themselves happy. But in order to fix the problem, they're constantly searching and trying to fix problems.

    8. CW

      The Ouroboros has got, it's got nuts.

    9. SP

      Yeah. [laughs]

    10. CW

      The Ouroboros has nuts.

    11. SP

      And so th- this post is amazing. It's basically just, like, the, the act of tr- of self-improvement, um, can lead to that s- that sort of infinite cycle of searching for problems to solve, to improve.

    12. GM

      Oh.

    13. CW

      Mm.

    14. SP

      And then you just sort of get addicted to the medicine in that way.

    15. GM

      How do you solve the infinite problem? [laughs]

    16. SP

      Well, he, he actually says it in this. Basically, he's like, there's this, uh, like, you need, you need both. If you just have radical acceptance of your situation, you go nowhere, and you will ultimately not be happy with your own, like, lack of progress in life. But if you only chase progress and never take acceptance to either weaknesses, flaws, imperfections in your life and just be able to sit with them-

    17. CW

      Yeah

    18. SP

      ... then you'll constantly be moving and trying to make progress to make yourself happy, but you won't be happy ever. And so-

    19. CW

      That's such a, scroll up, Jarred. That's such a fucking good line. "The older I get, the more I think that self-help can be a trap. Sometimes the cure is worse than the disease. I say this after around 20 years of writing self-help and a lifetime of consuming it." Bro, this is the fucking... Do you know there's two types of pivots?... that white podcasters make.

    20. SP

      [laughs]

    21. CW

      Bless you. One is the God pivot, and the other one-

    22. SP

      [laughs]

    23. CW

      The o- the other one is the renunciation of all of your life's-

    24. SP

      Of optimization

    25. CW

      ... work pivot.

    26. SP

      [laughs]

    27. CW

      Yeah. It's the turns out I was over-optimizing. Uh, the other one is turns out that I just needed to give it all to Jesus. Those are the only two. Pick your direction.

    28. SP

      That's so true. [laughs]

    29. CW

      Pick your direction, podcast man. That's it.

    30. SP

      I chose the second one. [laughs]

  7. 25:31 – 36:29

    We’re Just Betting On Everything Now

    1. SP

      So this is interesting. This is another, "I've, I'll never get off X. What have I been missing?"

    2. CW

      [laughs]

    3. SP

      I'm... Th- this is, this is exactly like must have been how my dad felt when he discovered Facebook Reels.

    4. CW

      [laughs]

    5. SP

      And then I was like, "Why is Dad still in the bathroom 45 minutes later?" And he's [laughs] laughing at some bullshit meme. It's so funny. AI banned from answering legal and healthcare questions. This is very interesting. I don't, I don't know what truth or validity there is to this, because this is on X, but, "Breaking: New York bill would ban AI from answering questions related to medicine, law, dentistry, nursing, psychology, social work, engineering, and more." And so there's this narrative of I wish I had the, uh, I had someone who captured the quote and basically said something where now we've gotten to the point where you can get for free what the experts are charging $400 an hour for and suddenly it's restricted and controlled upon.

    6. CW

      Mm.

    7. SP

      I don't know where the breadth and depth of this regulation and this bill will go.

    8. CW

      Mm.

    9. SP

      But it's an interesting thought that now readily available information is completely free or at most, what, $10 a month for-

    10. CW

      Mm

    11. SP

      ... for Claude or ChatGPT?

    12. CW

      ChatGPT.

    13. SP

      And now suddenly there's this bill that was like, "Hold on." And it's someone, someone commented, like, "WebMD's, WebMD's been giving people dog shit advice for 25 years now, and they didn't ever get banned. Why is this suddenly an issue?"

    14. CW

      Do you think it's because it's kind of personified? It feels like a person's giving it to you. I mean, you'll have done this before, that your AI gets it wrong, and then you start, like, shouting at it. You try and discipline it.

    15. SP

      Yeah. [laughs]

    16. CW

      How could you have done that? You're like, "Okay, I just need to..." You never did that with Google.

    17. SP

      Right.

    18. CW

      You never said to Google, "How could you have done this?" I think it's because it feels like you're talking to another human.

    19. GM

      The, the first thing now I always recommend is kind of three-factor authentication. So I'll never just speak to one LLM, I'll speak to three of them. And I notice if I go via three, the odds of them making a mistake seems to go significantly lower. Going back to that New York thing, though, it, it feels like what are you gonna do? Like, you can't-

    20. SP

      How are you gonna control that?

    21. GM

      All this stuff, it just... New York are always, like, crazy for regulation like this that never happens, never passes, or n- never actually actualizes. Even if they do, immediately people are gonna VPN. Like, we live in the world of the VPN, that these regulations just are gonna have absolutely no impact apart from-

    22. SP

      [laughs]

    23. GM

      ... headlines.

    24. SP

      There's a billion users using ChatGPT. What are you gonna... It's like fist fighting the wind-

    25. GM

      Yeah

    26. SP

      ... to be like-

    27. GM

      [laughs]

    28. SP

      ... "No. We're gonna... We say no." [laughs]

    29. CW

      Garden hose to a forest fire.

    30. SP

      Yeah, what are you gonna do?

  8. 36:29 – 42:50

    The World’s Best Tom Cruise Impersonator

    1. CW

      is unreal.

    2. SP

      Did you guys see this? Uh, y- you're on X, but you're not on... Are you on TikTok?

    3. CW

      I'm where?

    4. SP

      Yes. Okay.

    5. CW

      TikTok, yeah.

    6. SP

      He is TikTok.

    7. SP

      There's a TikTok that I thought was just so super funny. It's Tom Cruise. There's this Tom Cruise impersonator, and what happens is this guy invites him over to his house. He b- he b- he basically hires the Tom Cruise impersonator, but not for a party or a corporate event. Just come over to my living room. [laughs] And so, I don't know, have you guys seen this?

    8. CW

      He's the... Yes.

    9. SP

      Put the sound on-

    10. SP

      This is great

    11. SP

      ... 'cause the voice is amazing.

    12. SP

      This is so good.

    13. MS

      Hey, what's up? Woo! [laughs] It's the fucking team. Yeah, I guess just, like, whatever.

    14. SP

      [laughs]

    15. SP

      [laughs]

    16. SP

      So it's super awkward, right?

    17. MS

      Woo!

    18. SP

      [laughs]

    19. SP

      [laughs]

    20. MS

      Oh. [laughs]

    21. SP

      [laughs]

    22. SP

      [laughs]

    23. MS

      Wing man for life. I love this. [laughs] Woo! Didn't expect that, huh?

    24. SP

      Tom, Tom.

    25. MS

      Hey.

    26. SP

      Good to see you.

    27. MS

      Hey, my dad's reply. [laughs] You don't know what it's like to be out here for you. It's the up at dawn, private swallowing seats that I can never fully tell you about, so just help me help you help me help you.

    28. SP

      [laughs]

    29. SP

      [laughs]

    30. MS

      What are we talking about here?

  9. 42:50 – 46:36

    India’s Biggest Fetish

    1. CW

      To get you back for that, Shaan, what's your-

    2. SP

      [laughs]

    3. CW

      What's your heritage?

    4. SP

      Indian.

    5. CW

      Indian. Interesting that you say that. [laughs]

    6. SP

      [laughs]

    7. SP

      [laughs] Seamless transition.

    8. CW

      Uh, Seth, Seth Stephens-Davidowitz, ex data scientist at Google-

    9. SP

      Yeah

    10. CW

      ... wrote a very famous book called Everybody Lies, uh, analyzed Google autocomplete search frequency data for phrases beginning with "my husband wants". Across the world queries are relatively common. "My husband wants sex all the time," "My husband wants a divorce," "My husband wants a threesome." I searched earlier on today, "My husband wants a gaycation" for some reason turned up quite high.

    11. SP

      [laughs]

    12. SP

      It's personalized.

    13. CW

      But in India, in India, the most common completion was, "My husband wants me to breastfeed him."

    14. SP

      [laughs]

    15. CW

      This pattern appeared far more frequently in India than any other country. In India, searches about breastfeeding a husband appear roughly as often as searches about breastfeeding a baby.

    16. SP

      Wow. Before you make a comment, Shaan.

    17. SP

      Bring the three. [laughs]

    18. SP

      [laughs]

    19. CW

      [laughs]

    20. SP

      I think the most- [laughs]

    21. SP

      Two can play this game. [laughs]

    22. CW

      Bonnie, come on down.

    23. SP

      I think the most shocking part about that was after you relayed that bomb drop of a statistic, I look at Shaan and he goes, "Yeah."

    24. SP

      Yeah.

    25. SP

      [laughs] Like it's, of course.

    26. CW

      It makes a lot of sense.

    27. SP

      And the sky is blue.

    28. CW

      So if you look at a map, uh, Pornhub released all of their... They've got a good data science team, which you might not expect actually, but Pornhub-

    29. SP

      Mm

    30. CW

      ... have got a great data science team. If you look at the most popular types of porn across the world, varies country to country, the absolute outlier is India with breastfeeding porn.

  10. 46:36 – 49:45

    Insecurity Is Actually An Advantage

    1. CW

      I found out some interesting stuff this week about, uh, insecure attachment. So, uh, avoidant attachment, fearful avoidant, and anxious attachment. There's different types of attachment styles, and about 50% of the population are securely attached, uh, about 20% are anxiously attached, about 20, uh, 20% are avoidant attached, sorry. 5% are fearful avoidant, which is both, about 25% are anxious avoidant. What you think is most people that have an insecure attachment style, they're not happy with it. They wanna change it. They, they would much sooner not be pushing people away that they wanna get close to, or worried that someone's going to leave them, that maybe they feel like they're overreacting to their absence too much. Uh, so I was interested to work out what the evolutionary advantages are that are conferred on people-

    2. SP

      Right

    3. CW

      ... by being anxious or avoidant, and you'd think, well, there, there, there have to be some. Anxiously attached people, they have a much keener sense of paying attention to small differences, changes in the moment, changes in environment, and there was a great study done where they brought people into, uh, a setting, and they'd already done an attachment style quiz prior, so they understood the different attachment styles in the room. And then a computer would slowly blow a little bit of smoke out as if there was a fire that might be about to start. What's fascinating is the anxiously attached people were the ones who noticed the smoke first.

    4. SP

      Mm-hmm.

    5. CW

      But the avoidantly attached people were the first ones out the door-

    6. SP

      [laughs]

    7. CW

      ... every single time. And the argument here is that the anxiously attached people are able to pay attention to small changes. They're the ones that'll be scrutinizing. They're hypervigilant for stuff. But they'll think, "Should we, do we leave? That's high. Like do we think it's getting closer?" Is it... The avoidant people are like, "I'm fucking out of here," and everybody then follows after them. So one of the cool things that the avoidantly attached people have is an, a competitive advantage. They work better on their own, they're decisive, but they're really good at being in calamity because they're able to actually partition a bit of their brain off. So if you were, uh, an EMT-

    8. GM

      If you were dealing with some horrendous car accident, some car wreck, and you just need to get the job done, you almost need to sort of put one bit of your brain off to a side. You need to be, okay, compassionate. Like, it's not, not time for you now.

    9. SP

      Right.

    10. GM

      Whereas a more anxiously attached person would struggle somewhat more to do that. And I think what's cool about it is, uh, we don't ever lo- we tend to not look so much at the advantages conferred by stuff that we feel are shortcomings, and this is a really good example here of, sure, maybe you wish that you weren't worried that your partner's gonna leave you all the time, but this is why you're amazing at marketing copy or at paying attention to, to brand. Or, you know, for instance, if you were a, a police unit, you would want the SWAT guys to be avoidant and the detectives to be anxious. And, uh, it's just, I think it's really interesting to think about how different psychological makeups give you both benefits and costs.

    11. SP

      Mm.

    12. GM

      And, uh, that's a, a, a cool study about it.

    13. SP

      I like that. It... The secure ones just stay. Stay and burn. [laughs]

    14. GM

      The secure, the secure people are the worst.

    15. SP

      Yeah.

    16. GM

      Secure people by far are the wo- they got the best relationships, but they're the ones that don't notice the thing and would-

    17. SP

      Right

    18. GM

      ... be burned alive. Yeah.

  11. 49:45 – 52:47

    Gossip Is More Useful Than You Think

    1. SP

      It's like, uh, gossip, right? Like, gossip is seen as a negative thing to do. Wow, that's like, that's a, that's a trait you should try to get rid of. It's like, well, why does, why did gossip survive evolutionarily? It's, well, it's actually in- incredibly important. I can't vet 150 different people in a new tribe, so we need gossip to quickly spread about each person's reputation for me to, like, survive in any large group. So gossip is actually incredibly important if you're gonna be in any sort of social tribe, but it's seen as this, like, really negative behavior that you should stop doing. You know what I mean?

    2. GM

      You know what venting is? So it's somebody that is able to couch gossip under concern for another person. So it's an effect in psychology called the bless her heart effect, and it really only happens among women, not so much among, among men. So they brought, um, women into a lab, and they had a confederate, as they're called, so the, the, uh, person that's a part of this study come in, although they didn't know it. Two versions. First version, the woman is dressed very provocatively and looks, uh, sort of well put together, like, quite sexy. In the second version, she looks like a mess. Like, not a sexual rival at all. So how much of a sexual rival is this particular woman?

    3. SP

      Mm.

    4. GM

      That's what they were controlling for. And in both versions, this woman comes in and says, "I slept with two guys last night, and I don't really know what's going on, and, like, I'm not really too sure about this thing." And then later on she would leave the room. And what you find is that the woman that she said it to, if she was dressed provocatively, more likely says, tells somebody else. They gossip about what's going on, but the type of gossip is what caused, they called it the bless her heart effect.

    5. SP

      Mm.

    6. GM

      The type of gossip is couched under concern. "So George, I'm just so worried. I'm really, really worried about Christina. She's just sleeping with all of these guys, and I'm so worried that she's gonna get hurt." And the reason that you do that is that if anybody ever pulls you up on it, it's like, "Well, look, Christina, I was just... Like, I, I, I'm sorry. I'm just worried about you."

    7. SP

      "I was looking out for you."

    8. GM

      "I'm just so worried about you."

    9. SP

      Yeah.

    10. GM

      And implicitly it says, "Me?"

    11. SP

      Right.

    12. GM

      "I would never."

    13. SP

      Right.

    14. GM

      "No, I wouldn't. That, I could never, that would never be what I would do. Also, I'm pro-social. Look at how much I'm looking out for her." But also, "She slept with two fucking guys last night, by the way."

    15. SP

      [laughs]

    16. GM

      And, uh, yeah, it's just the bless her heart effect gossip thing is, is pretty fucking-

    17. SP

      And what do they say about the other woman?

    18. GM

      They were less likely to say-

    19. SP

      To share it at all.

    20. GM

      They were less likely. Yeah, because she looked like she was down on her luck. She didn't look like a sexual rival.

    21. SP

      Right. Right.

    22. GM

      So it, it's a enforcement mechanism for, um, intrasexual competition among women. That's the way it works.

    23. SP

      Didn't you have a, a lady on recently who had a discussion about malicious nature within females?

    24. GM

      A full two hours of it, yeah. Dani Shulkowsky. She's a beast. But, um, the fact that the internet hasn't got angry at that episode just shows how much female privilege there is.

    25. SP

      Well, now-

    26. GM

      That she can say all of that. [laughs] Everyone goes there and finds all of the problems with it. Yeah, it was, uh... It's fascinating, dude. It's like endless-

    27. SP

      This is just a big promotion and master class on how to hang on to all your traumas and actually don't change.

    28. GM

      Yeah.

    29. SP

      No, stay avoidant. Stay anxious.

    30. GM

      [laughs]

  12. 52:47 – 1:06:16

    The Most Important 2 Seconds of Your Life

    1. GM

      time has flown by during this podcast, which brings me onto my point about time. Um-

    2. SP

      You're the king of transitions.

    3. GM

      Yes.

    4. SP

      Amazing segue.

    5. GM

      [laughs]

    6. SP

      Phil Collins' grandson is just on it right now. Mark my words.

    7. GM

      He's Sylvester Stallone's stepson. [laughs]

    8. SP

      You're so perceptive of the environment. Are you anxiously attached?

    9. GM

      With Tom Cruise. Yeah. There needs to be an award for, um, worst transition. Um, so there's a guy called Albert Hine in around about the 1880s, and he is a geologist who's climbing up a mountain, and he falls 60 feet, right? So from the laws of physics, a 60-feet fall is one, two, boom, and you're dead. Um, so he... But now he recalls what his experience was like of falling. So he falls, and he immediately thinks as he's falling down, um, he thinks, "Should I take my glasses off or should I keep them on? Should I drop my cane or should I, I basically cry for help?" And he goes, "Oh," he goes, "I wonder what it's gonna be like when people realize that I'm on this trip, but that I'm dead. Should I let them know, like, this is happening?" Then he starts thinking about the lecture he's gonna give next week and how, um, they're gonna all be there and go, "Oh, he's dead." Then his entire life flashes before his eyes. Two seconds. And he can't... What would be interesting about this story, you'd immediately go, "Well, this is quackery. This is, like, him potentially making this thing up post hoc." But he then spent his entire life, like, chatting to other people that have had this experience of falling off things, from builders to different climbers, and lots of them mirror the exact same thing, that just as you're about to die, your dilation of time slows down so much. And it's one big thing I've been writing about of late around, um, how do we go about slowing down the speed of time or changing, um, time? And if you could find it on my, um, Twitter, Jared, if you search George Mack Janet's Law, about how time compresses with age, and it's kind of this idea that you've experienced according to this theory, which I don't think is necessarily true, but-

    10. GM

      According to this theory, you've lived half of your life by around about the age of 20. Um, and time-

    11. CW

      Experientially

    12. GM

      ... experientially, um, particularly because children, the reason why time feels slow, so slow as a child is everything is new. So that's one of the arguments of how you slow down time is, for example, once we've been here, time has slowed down, um, to some extent because we've been doing something new or you're in a new environment. But by the time you've been doing it 300 times-

    13. CW

      Mm-hmm

    14. GM

      ... things go so much faster. But I'm inter- I don't know if you guys have actually thought through of like how, as you get older, do you go about slowing down time and not just waking up 85?

    15. CW

      Yeah. I have.

    16. GM

      Shit, everything went. What do you do?

    17. CW

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    18. MS

      I mean, this sounds incredibly ru-rudimentary, and it's such a [clears throat] cliché take, but I think it's cliché because it works.

    19. CW

      It's true.

    20. MS

      It, yeah, there's a reason that clichés exist, is I think things feel slower when you make an intention to over-romanticize them. Like how one of the things I heard a friend say is, "How good can it get? How good, God, can it get?" Like the cup of coffee, how damn good is this cup of coffee? And it forces you into the present over something-

    21. CW

      Mm

    22. MS

      ... seemingly minuscule. But if that coffee was bad, you'd notice it, right? Because you want a decent cup of coffee, and then if it's horrendous, you get pissed off. So-

    23. CW

      Mm

    24. MS

      ... why not notice, wow, this is the perfect temperature. It's just bitter enough, but a little sweet. And then you look up and you go, wow, and the sun's out this morning and it feels warm. And I find that when I bring perceptive or a sensory experience into the present moment-

    25. CW

      Mm

    26. MS

      ... and just romanticize your life, as the cliché would call-

    27. CW

      Mm

    28. MS

      ... everything feels more novel.

    29. CW

      Yes.

    30. MS

      And we were having cheeseburgers the other night, and I'm just like, "How fun is this?" You know? You get-- We got to watch, I got to watch my friend work out materially so excited about, and now we're eating a f-damn good cheeseburger.

  13. 1:06:16 – 1:10:38

    Have Adults Forgotten How To Play?

    1. MS

      now. You know what? That's a beautiful... To, to make it practical, that is a beautiful example of something you alluded to earlier, which I think sum- is a summation of what you so beautifully wrote about, which is being childlike. In the Bible, God calls us multiple times to have childlike faith, to be like children in everything that we do, and somewhere along the way, we grow up, and we start taking everything so seriously.

    2. CW

      Mm.

    3. MS

      And to sa- you said earlier, you said, you know, just wait. When you have a kid and everything's novel, you can spin this, and they're like, "Whoa."

    4. SP

      Yeah.

    5. MS

      'Cause everything is novel.

    6. SP

      That was Disneyland right there.

    7. MS

      Exactly.

    8. SP

      [laughs]

    9. MS

      That, that, that's like... I- that's why I think it's so important, and the Bible is the ultimate self-help book. It's such good advice. Just be childlike in everything that you do, and that pulls you into the present moment. Huberman did-

    10. GM

      A, a mini-sode recently on the importance of play in longevity and how as we get old, we just stop playing and stop moving in that way, and we die from that.

    11. CW

      Yeah.

    12. GM

      And in my life lately, I've just been like the curious six-year-old inside of me again.

    13. CW

      What did we do in the park the other day?

    14. GM

      We played. We threw the ball.

    15. CW

      [laughs] We walked past... I know that you used to have a basketball-

    16. GM

      Mm-hmm

    17. CW

      ... in front of you on your pod. We did a pod and he was just a mini-bas- mini leather basketball.

    18. GM

      I always have this little ball with me.

    19. CW

      And he's just tossing it around.

    20. GM

      This is so fun.

    21. CW

      And, uh, we were walking through the park, and some dog must have just left a relatively good condition tennis ball. We're like, "Okay, we're turning around," and spend 15 minutes-

    22. GM

      Mm

    23. CW

      ... just, just unloading on our rotator cuffs, which-

    24. GM

      I'm still... It was, it was-

    25. CW

      Still trapped there. [laughs]

    26. GM

      Did you hear that pop?

    27. CW

      Yeah, what was that? [laughs]

    28. GM

      Yeah. [laughs]

    29. CW

      What was that?

    30. GM

      Was, was that audible into the [laughs] It's like a full on-

  14. 1:10:38 – 1:16:48

    When People Take Stoicism Too Far

    1. GM

      Yeah. I, I mean, we spoke about stoicism a few times where I, on, on some regards-

    2. CW

      Reverse, reverse stoicism.

    3. GM

      Yeah. Where, like, so for example, a lot of the time what I've noticed with people that get into stoicism, they almost have, like, reverse stoicism. So when things go well, they'll use the stoicism to keep it in, and then when things go bad they just lose their shit. So it's like, now you've, like, lost both of-

    4. SP

      All of the do-

    5. GM

      Yeah

    6. SP

      ... all of the downside and none of the upside? [laughs]

    7. CW

      Yeah, you're right. Correct. You've insulated yourself from getting too excitable.

    8. SP

      But are you saying they're doing it wrong or are you saying the philosophy-

    9. GM

      Well, I, yeah

    10. SP

      ... tells you to do that?

    11. GM

      I think it's a little bit of both. Like, my dad always gave me this great piece of advice, which is whenever something goes well, try and think how down you'd be if it didn't go well, and at least enjoy it that much.

    12. CW

      Mm.

    13. GM

      So even if you are gonna have your downs, at least have your ups.

    14. SP

      Right.

    15. GM

      And I, I guess my concern with stoicism at times, it's a little bit, I don't know, it's a little bit dry or it's a, it makes people a little bit more, more numb, which I don't particularly like. There's a great speaking, I think he's dead now, he wrote this in the '50s. Have you heard of, um, uh, Mustabation?

    16. SP

      Well-

    17. GM

      Well, not, no, no.

    18. SP

      Uh.

    19. CW

      [laughs]

    20. GM

      So, so-

    21. SP

      I'm assuming you pronounce that-

    22. GM

      ... differently

    23. SP

      ... a little differently.

    24. CW

      As an Indian man, yes.

    25. GM

      Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [laughs]

    26. SP

      It's when you're, you watch a video of a mom with a-

    27. GM

      Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Bring him in. Bring him in. [laughs]

    28. CW

      [laughs]

    29. SP

      Bring in the mother. [laughs]

    30. GM

      We've got active shooter. No, um, so, um, uh, basically, uh, it's, it's a guy called, um, Ellis, and he had, it's like rational emotive behavioral therapy. So it's like a, it's like a spinoff of cognitive behavioral therapy. And essentially his idea, I think it's lovely, is that he basically has, like, a very, very small rule. He goes, everything's fair game apart from you can never u- use the word must to yourself or, like, this has to happen. And what I've actually realized with a lot, a lot of things with myself is you almost, 'cause you try so hard and you put so much pressure on yourself that you end up, there's two things. There's either choking, which is when you overthink, when you think too much in the moment like an athlete that can't throw the basketball shot, or there's, um, uh... What's the opposite of choking? It's, um-

  15. 1:16:48 – 1:25:01

    The Most Uncomfortable Mukbang Ever

    1. CW

      do, have you guys seen the, uh... You've probably all seen this. You've seen the McDonald's CEO thing that's been going viral? It's, uh, it's pretty... So have you been following this? Uh, so, [laughs] so the CEO of McDonald's tries to do a, uh, a promotional event for the new Big Arch, which kind of worked, 'cause it went viral, but not for the right reasons. So I don't know if you've seen this. Check this out.

    2. SP

      With, you've heard about it. Here it is, the Big Arch.

    3. CW

      First of all, is this what you thought he'd look like? [laughs]

    4. GM

      [laughs]

    5. SP

      Test it already in Portugal, Germany, Canada. I love this product. It is so good. I'm gonna do a tasting right now, but I'm gonna eat this for my lunch, just so you know.

    6. GM

      [laughs]

    7. SP

      So here we go.

    8. MS

      [laughs]

    9. SP

      Holy cow. God, that is a big burger. We've got a very unique kind of sesame, poppy sort of bun on it.

    10. GM

      [laughs]

    11. SP

      We've got two quarter-pound patties, a delicious Big Arch sauce, and of course some lettuce. So, oh, there's so much going on with this. First of all, let's try to get this thing... I don't even know-

    12. CW

      It's like me trying to unhook a bra for the first time. [laughs]

    13. GM

      [laughs]

    14. MS

      [laughs]

    15. CW

      If you had my narration.

    16. SP

      See those kinda coming out. All right, the moment of truth.

    17. GM

      [laughs] It's barely gone.

    18. CW

      Yeah.

    19. SP

      That is so good. That's a big bite for a Big Arch.

    20. CW

      [laughs]

    21. SP

      It's distinctively McDonald's. Only McDonald's could do this type of burger, but it also is unlike anything else on our menu. It's a delicious product. You know, you've got sort of the cheeses and the gooeyness.

    22. GM

      [laughs]

    23. SP

      Uh, but those crispy onions as well gives a nice texture. And of course, we've got the pickles. So, uh, I'm gonna enjoy the rest of my lunch, but Big Arch, try it when you can get it.

    24. MS

      Sort of cheeses is a great way to describe whatever's on that burger. [laughs]

    25. CW

      He's, you know, he's basically, like, lying when he's like, "I'm gonna eat this later, off camera, but I'm definitely gonna eat this."

    26. MS

      Yeah, totally. I wanna be clear.

    27. CW

      Right.

    28. MS

      I'm gonna finish this later.

    29. CW

      I do this all the time.

    30. GM

      That made me feel physically ill.

  16. 1:25:01 – 1:31:10

    2 Beers, 2 Cigs, 2 Rubik’s Cubes World Record

    1. CW

      All right. Um, how about I tell you about this? Have you heard of the beer mile?

    2. MS

      The beer mile

    3. CW

      Yes

    4. MS

      I've n-

    5. CW

      You must have heard of the beer mile

    6. SP

      I, I won one last year, yes

    7. CW

      You won a beer mile?

    8. SP

      Beat Devin Levesque in the beer mile at Running Coast

    9. CW

      Do you want to explain what it is?

    10. SP

      Can we guess?

    11. MS

      It's-

    12. SP

      Yeah

    13. MS

      ... George, what is your guess? What is the beer mile?

    14. GM

      You drink beer and run? [laughs]

    15. MS

      During?

    16. CW

      Before

    17. MS

      Directionally accurate. During.

    18. GM

      Ah.

    19. MS

      So the beer mile is j- I'm, I wish I was being facetious when I said this. I think it's more painful than any marathon or ultra I've run, 'cause it's such an acute pain for such a short time. So the goal of the beer mile is simple. You run one mile, and every quarter mile you have a beer. So over the course of one mile, you drink four beers. So the gun goes off, beer one, quarter lap, beer two-

    20. GM

      That's painful

    21. MS

      ... quarter lap three, quarter lap four. There's a great photo, I, I wish I'd known you bringing it up, of me, uh, we'll call it an action shot, immediately after crossing the finish line on all fours just, oh, just exiting all of the beer that I had.

    22. GM

      Ooh.

    23. MS

      So that's the beer mile.

    24. SP

      Should, should we create the Big Arch mile? [laughs]

    25. MS

      I would do that.

    26. CW

      Well, interesting that you talk about the beer mile. How about the two beers, two cigs, two Rubik's Cubes speed run?

    27. SP

      Yeah. [laughs]

    28. CW

      Jared, uh, this is, if you were to look at your kind of elementary version of a physical challenge-

    29. MS

      Feels like it now

    30. CW

      ... you know, let's-

  17. 1:31:10 – 1:35:02

    Florida Man Does It Again

    1. MS

      Well, you know, the, the only thing I was gonna do, we've had, like, a lot of America chat and not much British chat, you two Yanks dominating things.

    2. CW

      [laughs]

    3. MS

      So, um-

    4. CW

      Hell yeah, we do. Let's go, baby.

    5. MS

      [laughs] That's such a difference in reaction immediately.

    6. CW

      [laughs]

    7. MS

      So we would... We, we only have a physical double. Um-

    8. SP

      The European mind could never comprehend.

    9. MS

      Yeah. [laughs]

    10. SP

      The fuck is a kilometer?

    11. MS

      We don't know either, okay? We don't use it.

    12. SP

      [laughs]

    13. MS

      So I've got, um, one of my favorite accounts called, uh, Mental UK Headlines. So it's just-

    14. SP

      [laughs]

    15. MS

      ... different, like, mental shit that's happened in the UK, but it's like it's a specific type of mentalness that would only happen in the UK. So, um, I was thinking, can you give me, like, the gong? Do you know, like, the news station gong? Bong. Grandfather banned from US holiday after accidentally ticking terrorist box on visa form. [laughs]

    16. SP

      [laughs]

    17. CW

      Bong.

    18. MS

      Rescuers learn that the exotic bird that they found was actually a seagull covered in curry. [laughs]

    19. SP

      [laughs]

    20. CW

      Shaan, that must have been you.

    21. SP

      That's a good one.

    22. MS

      Some, some lovely British news.

    23. CW

      Have you ever, have you ever Googled your birthday and Florida man?

    24. SP

      Oh, yeah.

    25. MS

      [laughs] No.

    26. CW

      Fucking... What's your birthday?

    27. SP

      April 25th.

    28. MS

      Oh, no.

    29. CW

      April 25th, Florida man.

    30. SP

      Florida man.

  18. 1:35:02 – 1:39:30

    Ice Packs In The Sauna

    1. MS

      I'm so glad you brought up Excel spreadsheets because I found something on how dogs can't get pregnant because of underwear, and I am terrified of this. Uh, have you guys ever given any attention to this, the whole underwear thing, cotton clothing, and how it's a big part of the health and wellness world?

    2. CW

      Austin Floyd's massive on it. He won't shut up about it.

    3. MS

      Okay. Do you do... Do you pay attention?

    4. CW

      Bamboo cotton. I listen to him. I listen to stuff. Austin-

    5. SP

      What is it, microplastics? That's the issue? Or what, something else?

    6. MS

      Well, uh, I, I think-

    7. SP

      Yeah, Matt

    8. MS

      ... we're all effectively, as we sit here, nuking our nuts. That's what I've gathered from this study.

    9. SP

      Good bitch.

    10. MS

      So a study on Twitter from, from the never controversial account, Carnivore Aurelius-

    11. CW

      Yeah. [laughs]

    12. MS

      ... says, "Ladies, you need to be wearing cotton underwear." Now, this is targeted at women, but there's evidence for males as well. Polyester underwear on dogs tanked their progesterone 90%, which earlier we called out the ethics of studies and how we can't do them anymore.

    13. CW

      Mm.

    14. MS

      Do we draw the line at making-

    15. CW

      Making dogs wear

    16. MS

      ... dogs infertile through human underwear? Polyester underwear on dogs tanked pr- progesterone 90% from 50 nanograms per milliliter to five, and 75% of them couldn't get pregnant. Polyester creates an electrostatic field that disrupts hormone production. 100% cotton only if you want babies. I have never paid any attention to this now, and I don't think I own a single pair of cotton underwear. I thought this was fascinating.

    17. SP

      I'm doing the opposite. I'm gonna do this-

    18. MS

      Oh

    19. SP

      ... as a form of birth control. [laughs]

    20. MS

      I, I think, I think I'm sp-

    21. SP

      Rather than a vasectomy, I'm just gonna start polyester. [laughs]

    22. MS

      I think I'm speed running infertility, and I didn't even realize it, from my underwear and not anything else in my lifestyle. So maybe a good incentive. George, what's your concern level?

    23. CW

      Um, well, you've constantly talking about the sauna as well, right? The saunas... That's why we've got Nutsicles in the freezer.

    24. SP

      Yeah.

    25. MS

      You have Nutsicles at the house?

    26. CW

      Nutsicles in the freezer.

    27. SP

      That's a Brian Johnson move right there.

    28. CW

      Yeah. I've been doing it since-

    29. SP

      Is that a branded thing, or you're-

    30. CW

      Nutsicles

Episode duration: 1:39:32

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