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The Ethics Of Using Drugs To Fall In & Out Of Love - Brian D. Earp | Modern Wisdom Podcast 268

Brian D. Earp is a Research Fellow at Oxford, philosopher and writer. Love is a feeling many of us yearn to feel, but the medical developments of the 21st century is moving love out of the personal and into the medical realm. Expect to learn if we can make ourselves fall in or out of love with drugs, whether we can turn a straight person gay with, how love anti-love drugs can help reduce domestic violence, the ethics of changing your attractiveness with drugs and much more... Sponsors: Get 83% discount & 3 months free from Surfshark VPN at https://surfshark.deals/MODERNWISDOM (use code MODERNWISDOM) Extra Stuff: Follow Brian on Twitter - https://twitter.com/briandavidearp Buy Love Is The Drug - https://amzn.to/3bf6uas Get my free Ultimate Life Hacks List to 10x your daily productivity → https://chriswillx.com/lifehacks/ To support me on Patreon (thank you): https://www.patreon.com/modernwisdom #lovedrugs #ssri #relationships - Listen to all episodes online. Search "Modern Wisdom" on any Podcast App or click here: iTunes: https://apple.co/2MNqIgw Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2LSimPn Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/modern-wisdom - Get in touch in the comments below or head to... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx Email: modernwisdompodcast@gmail.com

Brian D. EarpguestChris Williamsonhost
Jan 10, 20211h 15mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Should We Medicate Love? Ethics of Drugs, Desire, and Relationships

  1. Brian D. Earp and Chris Williamson explore how existing and emerging drugs can influence lust, attraction, attachment, and romantic love, and whether using them is ethically acceptable.
  2. They discuss a biopsychosocial model of love, the neurochemistry behind different stages of relationships, and how psychedelics and MDMA-assisted therapy may help couples break destructive patterns or rekindle connection.
  3. The conversation also examines “anti‑love” drugs for abusive relationships or uncontrollable desires, the politics of altering sexual orientation, and tensions between bioconservative and bioliberal views on enhancing human nature.
  4. Throughout, they wrestle with authenticity, agency, the risk of numbing meaningful suffering, and whether technology should reshape something as culturally sacred and personally defining as love.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Love is a complex biopsychosocial phenomenon, not just ‘chemicals’ or pure feeling.

Earp frames love as arising from biology (evolved mating and bonding systems), subjective experience (how it feels from the inside), and social scripts (cultural stories and values that tell us what ‘counts’ as love).

Existing drugs already shape our romantic lives, often without being studied as ‘love drugs’.

Common medications like SSRIs, hormonal contraception, and even Viagra can blunt or enhance desire, attachment, and relationship satisfaction, yet trials rarely measure interpersonal outcomes such as “Do you still love your partner?”

Psychedelics and MDMA may enhance therapy by disrupting rigid patterns, not by ‘manufacturing’ love.

In controlled settings, these drugs can lower defenses, quiet ego, and allow people to revisit trauma or entrenched couple conflicts with openness, potentially rekindling appreciation for a partner or resolving long-standing issues.

Anti-love pharmacology could help some people align actions with higher-order values.

For those stuck in abusive attachments or with exclusively harmful desires (e.g., self-hating pedophiles), dampening certain drives via agents like SSRIs or androgen blockers might support leaving dangerous situations after other supports have failed—raising hard questions about autonomy, stigma, and victim-blaming.

Authenticity depends less on ‘drug-free’ states and more on reflective endorsement.

Earp suggests feelings are authentic when, on reflection, they fit a person’s considered values and life narrative; a drug that removes barriers to genuine emotion (e.g., PTSD MDMA therapy) can sometimes make people feel more like their ‘true selves’ than their unmedicated, traumatized state.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

Love sits at the interface of biological, subjective, psychological aspects and the wider social historical context.

Brian D. Earp

Some people who have been in these trials say, ‘I look at my partner like when we first met again.’

Brian D. Earp

If the effect of a drug was just uniformly to block people's ability to access genuine information from their emotional lives, that would be bad.

Brian D. Earp

We're taking drugs already that have effects on our romantic neurochemistry. We just don't tend to think of them that way.

Brian D. Earp

Feeling feelings is hard… but nerfing that, cutting off all of the sharp edges of life by deciding to tranquilize yourself away from bad feelings, to me seems like a cop-out.

Chris Williamson

Biopsychosocial nature and definition of loveNeurochemistry of lust, attraction, and long-term attachmentPsychedelics and MDMA in couples therapy and PTSD treatmentAnti-love drugs for abusive relationships and problematic desiresSSRIs, birth control, and everyday pharmacological effects on relationshipsEthics of altering sexual orientation and identity via drugsBioconservative vs. bioliberal views on enhancing human nature and relationships

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