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The Man Bringing Extinct Creatures Back To Life - Ben Lamm

Ben Lamm is an entrepreneur, CEO of Colossal and a founder. What if Jurassic Park's dream of bringing extinct creatures back to life was possible? Well it kind of is. And Ben's company is forging ahead in the new frontier of de-extinction, starting with some of the most legendary animals from history. Expect to learn why Ben is bringing Wooly Mammoths back to life, how you give birth to an animal that died out thousands of years ago, where Ben gets the genetic material from, how bringing back Mammoths could fix climate change, whether artificial wombs will actually work, if we can make humans as strong as Neanderthals using their DNA, why we should bring back the Dodo bird and much more... Sponsors: Get the Whoop 4.0 for free and get your first month for free at https://join.whoop.com/modernwisdom (discount automatically applied) Get 5 Free Travel Packs, Free Liquid Vitamin D and more from AG1 at https://drinkag1.com/modernwisdom (discount automatically applied) Get 15% discount on Mud/Wtr at https://mudwtr.com/mw (use code MODERNWISDOM) Extra Stuff: Get my free Reading List of 100 books to read before you die → https://chriswillx.com/books/ To support me on Patreon (thank you): https://www.patreon.com/modernwisdom #extinction #mammoth #jurassicpark - 00:00 Ben’s Wild Plan to Fix Global Warming 02:46 How to Extract Ancient DNA 09:40 Making a Mammoth a Reality from DNA 22:55 What Could Go Wrong? 30:55 What Else Would Ben Like to Bring Back? 37:37 Why Mammoths Went Extinct 42:50 How Mammoths Are Useful to the Planet 52:07 Can Genetically-Created Mammoths Reproduce Naturally? 54:10 What Does this Mean for Human Advancement? 58:52 The Ethics of Genetic Enhancement 1:09:20 Where to Find Ben - Get access to every episode 10 hours before YouTube by subscribing for free on Spotify - https://spoti.fi/2LSimPn or Apple Podcasts - https://apple.co/2MNqIgw Get my free Reading List of 100 life-changing books here - https://chriswillx.com/books/ - Get in touch in the comments below or head to... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx Email: https://chriswillx.com/contact/

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Sep 15, 20231h 9mWatch on YouTube ↗

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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Gene Editing Mammoths: De-Extinction, Ecosystems, And Humanity’s Genetic Future

  1. Ben Lamm, founder of Colossal Biosciences, explains how his company uses advanced gene editing and ancient DNA to create ‘proxy’ versions of extinct animals like the woolly mammoth, dodo, and thylacine. Rather than cloning dead animals, they sequence degraded DNA from remains, compare it to living relatives, and edit embryos to express the key traits of the extinct species. Lamm argues these projects are not just spectacle: mammoths could help stabilize Arctic permafrost and slow climate change, thylacines could rebalance Tasmanian ecosystems, and the dodo can drive invasive-species removal and serve as a powerful symbol of human-caused extinction. Throughout, he and Chris Williamson explore the technical, ecological, ethical, and human-health implications of large-scale genome editing and reproductive technologies.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

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De-extinction focuses on reviving key genes, not perfectly resurrecting lost species.

Colossal builds ‘proxy’ animals by editing the closest living relatives (e.g., Asian elephants) with the core genetic changes that produce mammoth traits—hair, fat, cold tolerance—rather than reconstructing a 100% original genome, which is impossible with degraded ancient DNA.

Ancient DNA is patchy but reconstructable when you have many samples and high coverage.

By sequencing dozens of mammoth genomes at 20–50x coverage, researchers can statistically infer most of the genome despite heavy degradation, focusing on functionally important regions rather than seeking a perfect 100% sequence.

Different species require tailored reproductive strategies, including radically new tech.

Mammals like mammoths use somatic cell nuclear transfer and long surrogate gestations, while birds like dodos will likely be produced via edited primordial germ cells in chickens; for scale, Colossal is investing heavily in artificial wombs to bypass slow, risky surrogacy.

Revived species are tools for large-scale ecosystem engineering and climate mitigation.

Mammoth-like elephants could turn dark, low-efficiency Arctic forests back into reflective, carbon-storing grasslands, cooling permafrost by up to ~8°C and helping keep vast stores of methane and carbon locked in the ground.

Symbolic species can drive real policy and conservation change.

Reintroducing the dodo won’t magically fix Mauritius, but it forces invasive-species removal and habitat restoration, while the thylacine project aims to restore an apex predator whose absence may be dooming Tasmanian devils via unchecked facial tumor disease.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

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Fundamentally, we are de-extincting the core genes that make all of these species those unique species.

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You can’t clone a dead animal… so you have to look for its closest living relative.

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If we de‑extincted the core genes that made a mammoth a mammoth, then to me, that’s a mammoth.

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We have the tools and technologies to make humanity better through gene editing.

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More is possible today than we as humans are allowed to do.

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Definition and philosophy of de-extinction and ‘proxy species’Technical process: ancient DNA recovery, genome assembly, and multiplex gene editingGestation strategies: cloning, surrogates, artificial wombs, and bird PGC methodsEcological roles of revived species (mammoths, thylacines, dodos) in ecosystem restorationLimits of de-extinction (e.g., dinosaurs, DNA degradation, environmental constraints)Regulation, ethics, and collaboration with governments and Indigenous groupsSpillover to human health: gene editing, embryo selection, and disease prevention

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