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Ep #8 | WTF is Going on in the World of Content | w/ Nikhil, Ajay Bijli, Vijay S. & Sajith S.

Whether you're creating content, avidly consuming it, or believe you're untouched by its influence - you have a tremendous impact on the content industry. With this erudite episode, dive into the dynamic world of entertainment. It was a pleasure to sit with the three masterminds operating behind the curtains of the streaming, multiplex and talent industry. They share not only their journeys but also their data-driven viewpoints. Decode the expanse of this market, the strategies and the upcoming trends - the hidden aspects and even the subconscious manipulations that frequently go unnoticed. If you're aiming to build, innovate, or establish a presence within this realm, consider this episode an essential guide. Follow Nikhil here: Twitter https://twitter.com/nikhilkamathcio/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/ Linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/ Koo https://www.kooapp.com/profile/Nikhilkamath Ajay Bijli: Founder of PVR Cinemas & Managing Director of PVR INOX Ltd. (The merged entity of PVR Cinemas and Inox) Follow Ajay here: Twitter https://twitter.com/ajaybijli Vijay Subramaniam: Founder & Group CEO of Collective Artists’ Network Follow Vijay Subramaniam here: Twitter https://twitter.com/vijaysubs Instagram https://www.instagram.com/vijaysubramaniam84/ Linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/vijaysubramaniam/ Sajith Sivanandan: President & Head of Disney+ Hotstar Follow Sajith Sivanandan here: Linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/sajithsivanandan/ TIMESTAMPS 00:00 - Intro 01:40 - How Nikhil crossed paths with each Guest 03:52 - The Birth of PVR: Ajay Bijli’s story 09:02 - Vijay’s unconventional journey into entertainment 14:31 - The Uncanny CEO of Hotstar 23:14 - Influence of Glamour on Decision Making 26:08 - Evolving Landscape: The History of Celebrity Agents 31:56 - Market Size of OTT, TV & Studios 34:47 - OTT vs. TV: Is there a comparison? 39:59 - How does India watch Content? 44:05 - Dive into Cinema: Multiplex vs. Single-Screen 47:04 - Regional Diversity in Cinema 49:04 - Insights into Gender Behaviour & Demographics 50:48 - Revenue Tango: Producers & Multiplex 54:27 - Do OTTs Pose a Challenge to Multiplexes? 01:00:34 - Reviving Theatrical Magic Post COVlD 01:01:56 - Sports Streaming in India 01:04:31 - Subscriptions: The Psyche of the Consumer 01:06:30 - Future of the Sports-Cinemas Nexus 01:08:30 - Economics of Talent 01:16:40 - Creators' Crucial Role in the Content Ecosystem 01:22:00 - Should the Movie Business Model change? 01:38:00 - Writers, Scripts, Action : We Need Better Stories! 01:41:16 - The Celebrity Market 01:46:52 - Future of Content and Influencers 01:53:34 - Where is Media Heading? 01:57:40 - Gaming's Emergence: Threats & Transformations 01:59:26 - AI's Role in Content Creation 02:01:35 - OTT's Selection Criteria 02:04:33 - Distinguishing Unique Qualities of Major Talent 02:06:23 - Nikhil's personal opinion on panellists 02:08:59 - Second Edition : Pick A Charity and be part of something Incredible! 02:12:32 - A Surprise Jam Session 02:13:47 - Outro #Nikhilkamath #Podcast #WTFiswithNikhilKamath #WTFistheWorldofContent #Cinema #Movies #Media #Artists #OTT

Nikhil KamathhostAjay BijliguestSajith SivanandanguestVijay Subramaniamguest
Aug 13, 20232h 13mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

India’s content economy decoded: theaters, OTT, TV, talent, creators, AI

  1. Nikhil Kamath hosts Ajay Bijli (PVR), Vijay Subramaniam (Collective Artists Network), and Sajith Sivanandan (Disney+ Hotstar) to map the Indian content ecosystem for entrepreneurs and investors.
  2. They quantify key market segments: OTT streaming at roughly $2B (ads+subscriptions), TV at ~$8–10B, and theatrical box office at ~₹10,000 crore, with multiplexes generating ~70% of box office despite being a minority of screens.
  3. The group debates the industry’s profitability problems—especially talent fees (often 20–50% of big-film budgets), opaque deal structures, and weak incentives for writers and creators—arguing the long-term fix is better stories and fairer IP/royalty economics.
  4. They also discuss consumption shifts toward short-form video and creators, sports as a funnel for OTT, gaming as attention competition, and AI/deepfakes as a potential disruptor, ending with charity commitments and a viewer poll model.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

India’s OTT business is still small versus TV—yet the upside is massive.

They cite OTT streaming at about $2B total (ads+subs) versus TV at ~$8–10B, while TV reaches ~800M people and OTT has ~80–90M paying subscribers at least once. The gap signals both a monetization challenge (low ARPU) and a long runway for growth.

Multiplexes dominate box office revenue despite fewer screens.

India has ~9,000 screens, with ~3,500 multiplex screens, yet multiplexes contribute ~70% of box office because average ticket prices are much higher (multiplex ~₹200 vs single-screen ~₹80–90). For entrepreneurs, this highlights where pricing power and premium experiences sit.

Single screens are shrinking due to real estate economics, not just demand.

Ajay explains many single-screen owners convert properties into smaller cinemas plus commercial real estate, and ~500 screens close annually while multiplexes add ~300, keeping total screens roughly flat. This constrains theatrical expansion even when demand exists.

The theatrical window still matters for recouping big budgets—and also markets OTT.

They argue big films struggle to recoup if released straight to streaming; post-COVID windows shortened (e.g., ~8 weeks) but are “coming back” because theatrical provides scale and cultural momentum. Theatrical performance sets a “quantitative and qualitative benchmark” that boosts downstream value on OTT and satellite.

Sports is an acquisition engine more than a pure subscription product.

Sajith describes sports (especially cricket) as a huge top-of-funnel driver bringing “hundreds of millions” to the platform; monetization then depends on discovery and retention into entertainment. With rights competition (including Jio), sports shifts toward ad-led economics rather than strict paywall-led subscriptions.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

Box office-wise, 70% of the revenues come from multiplexes.

Ajay Bijli

The creator becomes the product and the distribution.

Sajith Sivanandan

Anywhere between 20 to 50% of that [a big film budget goes to the actor].

Vijay Subramaniam

If content is king, movie content, then theater is the kingdom.

Ajay Bijli

Why is it wrong for a celebrity to make money? Why is it an issue?

Vijay Subramaniam

Market sizing: OTT vs TV vs theatricalIndia screen supply: multiplex vs single-screen dynamicsOTT subscriptions, ARPU, and ads vs paywallsSports rights as top-of-funnel growth leverTalent economics: fees, transparency, and IP participationWriter scarcity and story quality as bottleneckFuture formats: creators, short-form, gaming, AI

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