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Kara and Scott discuss whether Trump will fire Fed Chair Jerome Powell, and all of the administration's efforts to distract from the Epstein scandal.   Elon Musk’s Grok scores a contract with the Defense Department, and Andrew Cuomo will officially run as an independent in the NYC mayoral race.  Plus, the House advances three crypto bills, and Kara and Scott are feeling better than ever after getting some love from a certain fellow podcast host. #karaswisher #scottgalloway #pivotpodcast #MAGA #epstein #trump #tariffs #russia #rosieodonnell #elonmusk #spacex #ai #google #media #business #politics #tech Timecodes: 00:00 Intro 3:07 Trump Says He’s Not Firing Fed Chair 10:59 Trump’s Effect on the Economy 16:21 Epstein Chaos Continues 30:40 Grok Goes to Washington 36:13 Cuomo’s Back in the NYC Mayoral Race 47:28 House Advances Crypto Bills 54:20 Predictions Producers: Lara Naaman Zoë Marcus Taylor Griffin Kevin Oliver Audio Engineer: Ernie Indradat Vox Media's Executive Producer of Podcasts: Nishat Kurwa Subscribe to Pivot on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pivot/id1073226719 Subscribe to Pivot on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4MU3RFGELZxPT9XHVwTNPR Follow us on Instagram and Threads at: https://www.instagram.com/pivotpodcastofficial Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@PIVOTPODCAST Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at https://podcasts.voxmedia.com/show/pivot

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Jul 17, 20251h 0mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Trump’s Distraction Machine, Epstein Files, and Power Games Explained

  1. Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway argue that Trump’s escalating threats — from firing Jerome Powell to massive tariffs and citizenship talk — are largely media bait designed to distract from growing pressure to release the Epstein files.
  2. They defend the importance of an independent Federal Reserve, dissect current U.S. and Russian economic conditions, and frame support for Ukraine as a high‑ROI, asymmetric investment in American and allied security.
  3. The conversation then dives into the political and conspiratorial chaos surrounding Jeffrey Epstein, Trump’s visibly panicked response, Maureen Comey’s firing, and the risks of both releasing and manipulating the files.
  4. They round out the episode with takes on AI firms courting the Pentagon, the Cuomo–Mamdani–Adams New York mayoral drama, emerging U.S. crypto regulation, and ongoing attacks on NPR/PBS funding.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Recognize distraction cycles: Trump’s daily incendiary announcements are often tactical noise.

Galloway frames threats to fire Powell, extreme tariffs, and other shock proposals as deliberate, low‑intent moves engineered to dominate headlines and push Epstein coverage out of the news cycle.

Defend institutional independence, especially the Fed, as a growth pillar.

They argue modern economic success stories typically share features like democracy, alliances, civil rights, and an independent central bank insulated from short‑term electoral incentives to juice the economy.

Read Trump’s behavior around Epstein as a signal, not just noise.

His aggressive denial, shifting blame, and efforts to create new controversies make him appear “obviously guilty of something,” suggesting real exposure if the files are fully released.

Expect weaponization and disinformation around any Epstein file release.

Swisher warns that partial releases, doctored content, and algorithmic amplification (especially on X) could blend real evidence with fabricated material, harming innocents and muddying accountability.

Asymmetric warfare and AI will define future military power.

They note cheap drones destroying expensive hardware in Ukraine and argue the U.S. should tightly integrate leading tech firms and AI tools into defense, while maintaining competition and oversight.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

It’s as if we’re at the Nuremberg Trials and one of the people on trial starts playing the kazoo hoping that we’ll all forget why we’re there.

Scott Galloway (on Trump’s distraction tactics)

Every day his comms team is putting into ChatGPT, ‘What will the media go for in order to ensure that the story of Epstein is pushed out of the news cycle?’

Scott Galloway

They will be teaching in graduate school for years this period where Jerome Powell managed to take inflation from 9% to 2% without triggering a recession.

Scott Galloway

He’s acting guilty because he is guilty, and the question is, what is he guilty of?

Kara Swisher (on Trump and Epstein)

At some point this island looked like what you would imagine Davos would look like, except with bathrobes and ankle monitors.

Scott Galloway (on Epstein’s circle)

Trump’s use of headline‑grabbing threats as distraction tactics from the Epstein scandalFederal Reserve independence, Jerome Powell’s record, and U.S. economic signalsGlobal economics: tariffs, inflation, Russia’s war economy, and support for UkraineThe Epstein files: bipartisan pressure, conspiracies, Trump’s behavior, and Maureen Comey’s firingAI and defense: Grok, other major AI models, and the military‑tech nexusNew York City mayoral race: Cuomo’s independent bid vs. Mamdani and AdamsU.S. crypto legislation, anti‑CBDC politics, and attacks on public media funding

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