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Melinda French Gates, MacKenzie Scott, and the New Era of Giving | Pivot

Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway discuss how Melinda French Gates and MacKenzie Scott are upending the world of philanthropy, in contrast to some of the men of Silicon Valley. #pivot #podcast #melindagates #mackenziescott #philanthropy #siliconvalley

Kara SwisherhostScott Gallowayhost
May 30, 202412mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Women Billionaires Redefine Philanthropy While Men Chase Influence And Ego

  1. The conversation examines Melinda French Gates’ new $1 billion philanthropic initiative focused on women, families, and reproductive rights, including large, trust-based grants to individuals like Jacinda Ardern, Ava DuVernay, and Richard Reeves.
  2. Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway contrast this approach with Mackenzie Scott’s low-profile, fast, no-strings giving, arguing that women philanthropists are more willing to give big, ask less in return, and move money quickly to where it’s needed.
  3. They sharply juxtapose this with male tech and finance figures who spend relatively small sums to buy political influence and status, calling that behavior vanity and PR rather than true philanthropy.
  4. Galloway also critiques the Giving Pledge as largely symbolic, arguing that real virtue lies in giving money away while alive, once one’s financial “number” is met, rather than hoarding extreme wealth and promising posthumous generosity.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Trust-based, large-scale giving can accelerate real-world impact.

By giving sizable grants (e.g., $20 million) with few strings attached to trusted leaders and organizations, philanthropists like Melinda French Gates and Mackenzie Scott enable faster, more flexible responses to complex social problems.

Female philanthropists in tech wealth circles often seek less recognition.

The hosts note that women like Mackenzie Scott tend to avoid ribbon-cutting, branding, and control, preferring to quietly deploy large sums without demanding influence, naming rights, or public credit.

Political “donations” by some wealthy men function more as vanity projects than philanthropy.

Comparing Silicon Valley fundraisers for Donald Trump to the work of Gates and Scott, they argue that small relative sums are deployed to buy access, status, and self-aggrandizement rather than to tangibly improve society.

Posthumous giving and the Giving Pledge are criticized as insufficient.

Galloway contends that pledging to give away wealth after death has little real cost to the donor’s life, can be intertwined with tax optimization, and allows virtue signaling without the discipline of giving in the present.

Once you’ve “hit your number,” hoarding more money adds little happiness.

Drawing on Kahneman’s work, Galloway argues that beyond a high but finite threshold (e.g., around $100 million), more wealth doesn’t materially improve quality of life, and that excess should be given away or spent productively.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

One is vanity, one is philanthropy.

Scott Galloway

I've got a shit ton of money, it makes no sense to hoard wealth and I'm gonna start pushing it out and I'm gonna ask for almost nothing in return.

Scott Galloway (describing women philanthropists)

These men are sad and dickless and these women have balls as big as all ever.

Kara Swisher

There needs to be a movement in America that once you hit your number, you just start giving it away now.

Scott Galloway

The difference between 100 million and a billion, there's no marginal increase in the quality of your life.

Scott Galloway

Melinda French Gates’ $1 billion commitment and focus areas in philanthropyMackenzie Scott’s trust-based, fast, and quiet giving modelGendered differences in philanthropic behavior and expectationsContrast between genuine philanthropy and vanity-driven political donationsCritique of the Giving Pledge and posthumous givingPersonal philosophy on “hitting your number” and giving wealth away while aliveQuestions of inheritance, dynastic wealth, and what to leave to children

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