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Kara and Scott unpack the FCC’s attack on Disney and what it means for media and free speech. Then, they break down a massive Big Tech earnings day, the AI spending arms race, and the "ketamine economy." Plus, Elon Musk takes the stand in the OpenAI trial, and Taylor Swift moves to protect her voice and image from AI. #pivot #podcast #karaswisher #scottgalloway #fcc #disney #bigtech #ai #ketamine #markets #elonmusk #openai #samaltman #taylorswift 00:00 Intro 00:18 FCC Comes For Disney 13:18 Big Tech Earnings 26:55 Elon Testifies 36:54 Taylor Swift Fights Against AI 47:36 Predictions Producers: Lara Naaman Zoë Marcus Taylor Griffin Todd Wiseman Vox Media's Executive Producer of Podcasts: Nishat Kurwa Subscribe to Pivot on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pivot/id1073226719 Subscribe to Pivot on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4MU3RFGELZxPT9XHVwTNPR Follow us on Instagram and Threads at: https://www.instagram.com/pivotpodcastofficial/ Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@PIVOTPODCAST Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or email pivot@voxmedia.com

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May 1, 202657mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. Kara’s courtroom trolling idea sets the tone

    Kara jokes about showing up in court to rattle Elon Musk, then pivots into the day’s political-media news. The banter frames a broader theme: powerful figures demanding attention and control, and how institutions respond.

  2. FCC targets Disney/ABC over DEI investigation and political retaliation claims

    The hosts argue the FCC’s demand that Disney file early license renewals is a politicized intimidation tactic tied to culture-war pressure. Kara predicts Disney will fight—and win—in court, calling the move harassment of a major American company.

  3. Free-speech “warriors,” comedy, and the chilling effect on media

    Scott and Kara discuss how Trump-aligned threats can chill speech even if lawsuits fail. Scott claims producers are already softening language due to legal risk, while Kara argues pushback is growing and mockery is the right response.

  4. How to cover Trump without feeding the conflict machine

    Scott proposes “ring-fencing” Trump coverage: a short, standardized daily recap instead of wall-to-wall programming. They argue Trump gains power from controversy and media saturation, so containment is both editorially and civically healthier.

  5. Preventive health detour: Spotify founders’ Neko/Necco scans and behavior change

    Scott describes a comprehensive preventive health screening experience—full-body scans, bloodwork, and immediate clinician review—at a surprisingly low cost. The conversation turns to exercise “zone 2” training and recurring medical advice to reduce alcohol.

  6. Big Tech earnings blowout: AI demand vs runaway CapEx

    Kara runs through Alphabet, Microsoft, Amazon, and Meta results; Scott argues AI is ‘eating the world’ while infrastructure spending siphons cash flow. The markets reward growth but punish ever-rising capital expenditure guidance.

  7. ‘Ketamine economy’ and the coming ‘reckoning’ for markets and society

    Scott claims the economy is increasingly dissociated from everyday pain because wealth and markets are concentrated in AI winners and insulated elites. Kara adds that public anger is rising as tech/wealthy figures shift from ‘heroes to villains,’ hinting at political and economic consequences.

  8. Elon Musk on the stand vs OpenAI: seller’s remorse and messiah complex

    They dissect Musk’s testimony and motivations, portraying the suit as regret after leaving OpenAI and losing control. Scott predicts OpenAI won’t settle; Kara emphasizes the value of seeing powerful people under oath—and argues Musk’s self-image as savior contrasts with harmful actions and lax AI guardrails.

  9. Taylor Swift’s AI counterstrike: trademarking voice and image

    Swift’s trademark filings for voice clips and imagery are framed as a high-profile attempt to protect likeness from AI misuse. The hosts argue for stronger individual ownership of ‘digital twins’ and clearer licensing/royalty systems for training data and synthetic performances.

  10. Scott’s Google ‘Portraits’ avatar: why he pulled it down

    Scott explains he collaborated with Google on an AI avatar trained on his content to answer advice questions, but later worried it could deepen social isolation—especially for young men. After reassessing, he asked Google to remove it, raising questions about responsibility even with consent-based tools.

  11. KaraTar and the broader unease: synthetic selves that persist

    Kara describes creating a boxed 3D talking avatar of herself—both amusing and unsettling—and plans to gift it to Scott. They return to the idea that consent and compensation are essential, but psychological and cultural impacts remain unresolved.

  12. Predictions: movies feel ‘human’ again; Intel set up for a fall

    Kara predicts well-made, people-centered films will outperform expectations as audiences crave authenticity and shared experiences. Scott predicts Intel will underperform sharply, arguing it’s overvalued amid intensifying competition from Amazon and Google chips and shifting AI bottlenecks toward power and infrastructure.

  13. Bonus win and wrap: King Charles’ rhetorical precision; listener callouts

    They praise King Charles’ speech as a rare, elegant critique that lands even in a polarized environment. The episode closes with plugs, a listener-question prompt, and a clip about Trump’s waning alignment with his own supporters.

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