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Trump’s Military Parade Backfires as 'No Kings' Protesters Hit the Streets

Kara and Scott discuss the Minnesota lawmaker shootings, and if anything can be done about the uptick in political violence. Then, Trump says Israel and Iran will make a deal, but the latest conflict between the two countries continues to escalate. Plus, the No Kings protests rain on Trump's military parade, and Elon's SpaceX contracts with the government might be in danger. #karaswisher #pivot #podcast #karaswisher #scottgalloway #militaryparade #dc #nokings #nokingsday #protests #minnesota #shooting #politicalviolence #israel #iran #elonmusk #spacex Timecodes: 00:00 Intro 5:20 Minnesota Lawmaker Shootings 16:28 Trump’s Military Parade and No Kings Protests 28:23 Iran-Israel Conflict Escalates 39:56 Defense Department Reviews SpaceX Contracts 56:17 Wins and Fails Producers: Lara Naaman Zoë Marcus Taylor Griffin Kevin Oliver Audio Engineer: Ernie Indradat Vox Media's Executive Producer of Podcasts: Nishat Kurwa Subscribe to Pivot on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pivot/id1073226719 Subscribe to Pivot on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4MU3RFGELZxPT9XHVwTNPR Follow us on Instagram and Threads at: https://www.instagram.com/pivotpodcastofficial Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@PIVOTPODCAST Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at https://podcasts.voxmedia.com/show/pivot This episode is presented to you by IBM. https://ibm.com

Kara SwisherhostScott GallowayhostGuestguest
Jun 17, 20251h 5mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Trump Parade Flops As Political Violence Rises And Protests Surge

  1. Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway, recording from Cannes, move from banter into a wide‑ranging discussion of rising political violence in the U.S., Trump’s failed military parade, and the contrasting success of the nationwide ‘No Kings’ protests.
  2. They examine the Minnesota double murder of Democratic lawmakers, linking it to toxic rhetoric, social media polarization, easy access to guns, and escalating threats against public officials.
  3. They then analyze Israel’s strikes on Iran’s nuclear and military infrastructure, arguing over whether preemptive action has made the region safer or dangerously escalated war in the Middle East under an erratic Trump presidency.
  4. Finally, they unpack the rapidly souring Trump–Elon relationship, the risks to Musk’s government-dependent businesses, and the broader failure of powerful Democrats and business leaders to publicly confront rising autocracy.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Political rhetoric and social media are creating an atmosphere ripe for violence.

Galloway compares current conditions to climate change: social media’s outrage incentives and economic inequality act like “carbon puffs” that create a context where disturbed individuals more easily justify political violence.

Easy access to guns remains a central accelerant of U.S. political violence.

They note that other countries with mental illness and polarization see fewer fatalities because attackers are less armed; in the U.S., firearms turn individual breakdowns into mass casualty events.

Trump’s military parade was symbolically weak next to ‘No Kings’ protests.

Low turnout, corporate sponsor optics, and images of empty streets contrasted sharply with creative, festive, and widespread anti‑authoritarian protests, damaging Trump’s image of strength and momentum.

Mass, visible protest can still meaningfully influence political outcomes.

They cite research that when 3% or more of a population protests, policy change almost always follows; the 1.8% turnout for No Kings suggests growing civic engagement that can serve as a firewall against authoritarian drift.

Israel’s strike on Iran may delay a nuclear weapon but raises escalation risks.

Galloway argues the IDF’s targeted killing of Iranian military and nuclear leaders and likely setback to Iran’s program makes the world safer; Swisher emphasizes the danger of spiraling conflict, Netanyahu’s incentives, and Trump’s unsuitability to manage a crisis.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

We’ve created an atmosphere for a lot of political violence, and the two puffs of carbon into the air are social media and polarization at the hands of income inequality.

Scott Galloway

This was a bust of a parade. It just was.

Scott Galloway

There’s never been civic activity where three percent or more of the population shows up and there isn’t significant change around the policies there.

Scott Galloway (summarizing research on protest impact)

I think today the Middle East is actually a safer place than it was on Thursday.

Scott Galloway

Gentlemen, grow a fucking pair. This is exactly the time to speak up.

Scott Galloway

Rising political violence and the Minnesota murders of Democratic lawmakersRole of rhetoric, social media, guns, and inequality in radicalizationTrump’s underattended military parade versus energetic ‘No Kings’ protestsPublic protest, citizen engagement, and the three “firewalls” against fascismIsrael’s strikes on Iran’s nuclear program and broader Middle East escalationThe Trump–Elon feud, SpaceX/Tesla’s dependence on government, and autocracyDemocratic leadership, Obama’s role, and the silence of wealthy elites/CEOs

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