LinkedIn CEO: These 3 Jobs Will Explode in the Next 5 Years | Ryan Roslansky

Ryan Roslansky 0:00 at least in the US, 50% of college graduates this year will graduate either unemployed or underemployed, and credit card debt is being outpaced by student loan debt for the first time in history.

Marina Mogilko 0:11 This is Ryan Roslansky, CEO of LinkedIn. He took LinkedIn from $7 billion to $17 billion in revenue and crossed a billion members by betting big on AI, smarter hiring tools, skills-based matching, and a massive push into video.

Ryan Roslansky 0:26 LinkedIn is the, the definitive labor market platform of the world. We have amazing insights into actually what is happening across the world.

Marina Mogilko 0:34 His data doesn't predict the job market, it is the job market. What about entry-level jobs?

Ryan Roslansky 0:39 Entry-level jobs across the world right now, the hiring rate that we see are down roughly 12%. While we see that hiring is sluggish across most markets, the reason that it's sluggish h- doesn't have anything to do with AI.

Marina Mogilko 0:49 Do you think college is kind of fading away?

Ryan Roslansky 0:51 When I talk to people about what they should do with their career, it's less about where do you wanna be in five years, and it's more about, over the next few months, like, what new skills do you wanna learn?

Marina Mogilko 0:59 So what are the top skills people should be adding to their LinkedIn right now?

Ryan Roslansky 1:02 There's this, you know, this huge demand by- [beep]

Marina Mogilko 1:06 Ryan!

Ryan Roslansky 1:06 Hi.

Marina Mogilko 1:06 Thank you so much, and welcome to Silicon Valley Girl.

Ryan Roslansky 1:09 Great to be here.

Marina Mogilko 1:10 I am so happy to have you. So you're the CEO of LinkedIn, and also Executive Vice President of Microsoft Copilot, uh, and Microsoft Office, and we're at Davos today.

Ryan Roslansky 1:21 Yes.

Marina Mogilko 1:22 So w- what is everyone talking about?

Ryan Roslansky 1:24 I think there's a lot of the things that I'm seeing, but I think one of the things that's probably most, you know, interesting to you potentially is, I think if we were here maybe, like, three years ago, a lot of the conversations we would be having would be with traditional media. And this year, it's amazing to see kind of the creator influence, like, up and down the promenade, and-

Marina Mogilko 1:42 Yeah

Ryan Roslansky 1:42 ... kind of the role that creators are playing in this new economy. And, you know, we see it on LinkedIn. There's 4 million members now that, uh, their official job title is creator, and it's just amazing to watch this kind of new industry explode to where it is today. To be recognized at Davos, for example.

Marina Mogilko 1:56 That is amazing, and I'm happy to be part of it.

Ryan Roslansky 1:58 Yeah.

Marina Mogilko 1:58 It's amazing to see, starting 12 years ago, and being a creator now is just a huge-

Ryan Roslansky 2:04 Yeah

Marina Mogilko 2:04 ... huge difference. Uh, what do people say about AI? Do you think people hear more positive or negative?

Ryan Roslansky 2:10 It's interesting. I think people are all over the place because, um,

Ryan Roslansky 2:14 their kind of opinions are based on what they heard from the last conversation. What I love about LinkedIn is that as the definitive, you know, labor market platform of the world, we have amazing insights into actually what is happening, uh, across the world. And it's interesting, while we see that hiring is sluggish, you know, across most markets, the reason that it's sluggish h- doesn't have anything to do with AI, in our opinion. It's actually more due to macro conditions, um, interest rates, not AI. As it relates to AI, we see something totally different. There's actually been m- almost, you know, 1.3 million brand-new net jobs on LinkedIn for AI. Roles like data annotators. Um, over 600,000 new data center jobs, uh, exist on LinkedIn. Um, you know, forward-deployed engineers, the companies need to understand AI. So at least in terms of what we're seeing in the LinkedIn data right now, AI is a net positive addition to the job market, not something that's detracting jobs.

Marina Mogilko 3:15 That's great. But what, what about entry-level jobs?

Ryan Roslansky 3:17 So entry-level jobs, uh, across the world right now, the hiring rate that we see are down roughly 12%, but they are not disproportionate to any of the other jobs. They're down just as men- much as all the other jobs in the world. I think kind of what I was saying before, a lot of that contraction

Ryan Roslansky 3:33 is due, you know, large part to macroeconomic, uh, kind of, and kind of climate and interest rates and, you know, um, you know, companies investing less in general. So then the question becomes: What do, you know, any professional, you know, even entry-level professionals do? And, you know, we're seeing kind of two trends emerge. One, the, the one that I said, which is that, um, you know, micro-entrepreneurship, you know, a rise in creators, which is that, "Hey, if, if the traditional path doesn't exist, I need to take my career into my own hands." Uh, and number two, a real affinity now towards trade roles. And I think if you go back a couple years ago, um, you know, people weren't as into these trade roles as they are right now, but especially kind of Gen Z sees it as a much safer option.

Marina Mogilko 4:19 What do you mean trade role?

Ryan Roslansky 4:20 Uh, like, like, uh, first-line jobs.

Marina Mogilko 4:23 Mm-hmm.

Ryan Roslansky 4:23 Um, you know, typical, like, trade roles, not office jobs.

Marina Mogilko 4:27 Mm.

Ryan Roslansky 4:27 And they see those as more resilient in an AI world. These are the types of jobs that AI probably won't take. Uh, so we're seeing more affinity towards that as well.

Marina Mogilko 4:36 Interesting. Have you seen, like, a huge uptick in creator? Uh, like, when people put creator as job title.

Ryan Roslansky 4:43 Right now, there are 75 million people on LinkedIn that somewhere in their profile say they're a creator.

Marina Mogilko 4:51 Wow.

Ryan Roslansky 4:51 And there's 4 million people that say their complete 100% full-time job is creator, so it's fantastic.

Marina Mogilko 4:58 That's fascinating.

Ryan Roslansky 4:58 And look at what you started. [laughing]

Marina Mogilko 4:59 [laughing] How do career paths change? 'Cause you also track people through their career inside the company. You start as, I don't know, assistant, and then you go up and up. But because, um... I think I heard you at one of the conference talking that a lot of people are hiring generalists now.

Ryan Roslansky 5:14 Mm-hmm.

Marina Mogilko 5:14 So you don't necessarily climb up the ladder, you expand horizontally-

Ryan Roslansky 5:18 Exactly

Marina Mogilko 5:18 ... acquiring new skills. Do you see that trend as well?

Ryan Roslansky 5:21 So I think, first and foremost, the really important thing, like, since the beginning of LinkedIn, the feature that is requested most from members is, "Show me what a typical career path is supposed to look like. LinkedIn, you have all this data, so if I wanna become a CFO or a CEO or an accountant or whatever, what is the path that people take?" And the reality is, in the data, there is no such thing as a linear career path. Like, it's all over the place. So the more that people, first and foremost, recognize that you have to take your career into your own hands, there's no natural path that exists that you just get on, I think is, is really, really important. Right now, it's more important than ever, though, because, uh, you know, skills are changing. The, uh, the, the types of skills that are necessary for a specific role on LinkedIn have changed north of 25%, you know, over the last couple of years alone. We expect they'll change by 70% by 2030, largely influenced by AI and new tools and new ways of doing these professions. So, um, you know, my... You know, I, I, I often, when I talk to people about what they should do with their career, it's, it's less about where do you wanna be in five years, and it's more about-... over the next few months, like, what new skills do you wanna learn? Because to your point, these roles are flattening. Generalists are more and more where people are going these days.

Marina Mogilko 6:36 So what are the top skills people should be adding to their LinkedIn right now?

Ryan Roslansky 6:39 It's funny. There's this, you know, this huge demand kind of on both sides of the spectrum. Obviously, like, AI literacy is important, and I think no matter what your role, your profession, you know, familiarizing yourself with these tools

Ryan Roslansky 6:54 is a really, really smart investment in your own career. You don't have to love them. You don't have to use them all the time. But just familiarizing yourself, putting yourself in the mindset that I'm going to figure out how I can be better at my job through AI is one thing, so a set of AI skills. But just as important on the other side are human skills: curiosity, creativity, courage, communication, uh, compassion, the ability to work with other people, the ability to sit down with someone and actually have a conversation. You can't just be mired in using technology in a bubble and be successful, uh, in a lot of work settings. Just to be able to, you know, disagree and commit with someone, to be able to communicate with someone, to help galvanize people to get something done. So I think the key right now is that combination of, you know, uh, you know, learn those AI skills and then figure out a way to be strong on those, you know, you know, more human skills. They're typically called soft skills. I think that's a misnomer. They don't-

Marina Mogilko 7:53 Mm.

Ryan Roslansky 7:53 You know, soft kind of feels like it's less important. I think they're more important than ever.

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Ryan Roslansky 9:44 Mm

Marina Mogilko 9:44 ... uh, I don't really sort people by, like, oh, creative or whatever.

Ryan Roslansky 9:48 Sure.

Marina Mogilko 9:48 But I, I read their posts.

Ryan Roslansky 9:49 Mm.

Marina Mogilko 9:50 So what I found really helpful-

Ryan Roslansky 9:51 Okay

Marina Mogilko 9:51 ... in hiring is that now we hire based on content that they post [chuckles] because-

Ryan Roslansky 9:56 Yeah

Marina Mogilko 9:56 ... it shows their personality. It shows how deep they are in the subject. We just hired a, a YouTube strategist-

Ryan Roslansky 10:02 Mm

Marina Mogilko 10:02 ... who's amazing, and we hired them- him purely based on what he was posting about building a YouTube channel.

Ryan Roslansky 10:09 I love that. So we, we always thought that, um, the extension of your LinkedIn profile isn't just where you went to school, where you've worked, what skills you have, but the ability to demonstrate the actual knowledge that you have in your head, like, by posting on LinkedIn, and it's awesome to hear that you use that-

Marina Mogilko 10:26 Yeah

Ryan Roslansky 10:26 ... as a way to understand someone's identity better.

Marina Mogilko 10:28 Yeah, you don't have to jump on a call.

Ryan Roslansky 10:30 Yeah.

Marina Mogilko 10:30 You don't have to do anything. You just read the posts.

Ryan Roslansky 10:31 Love it.

Marina Mogilko 10:32 Yeah, saves a lot of time.

Ryan Roslansky 10:33 So people, post more on LinkedIn. That's what... [laughs]

Marina Mogilko 10:35 Also, like, as someone who started posting actively on LinkedIn last year-

Ryan Roslansky 10:39 Yeah

Marina Mogilko 10:39 ... and we made something that's equal to, like, a full-time salary-

Ryan Roslansky 10:43 Wow

Marina Mogilko 10:44 ... just on LinkedIn.

Ryan Roslansky 10:45 Mm.

Marina Mogilko 10:45 We grew from, like, 10,000 to 50,000-

Ryan Roslansky 10:47 Good for you

Marina Mogilko 10:48 ... almost 50,000-

Ryan Roslansky 10:48 Amazing

Marina Mogilko 10:49 ... in a year.

Ryan Roslansky 10:49 Wow, congratulations.

Marina Mogilko 10:50 So it's... LinkedIn is definitely the social network [chuckles] right now.

Ryan Roslansky 10:54 Sure. Thank you.

Marina Mogilko 10:54 Thank you for that. By the way, any tips to grow on LinkedIn?

Ryan Roslansky 10:58 You know, LinkedIn is unique because our platform exists to create economic opportunity for every member of the global workforce. Our feed exists as a mechanism to showcase your identity, exactly the story that you just told, so that if I'm trying to get hired or I want to make a name for myself in a specific field, the content that I share is a way to do that. Other platforms tend to stem from, you know, uh, their vision is around, you know, entertainment or, uh, you know, large engagement. Our, our largest business is in recruiting. Um, so we don't come at it from a perspective of, you know, we're trying to help you get, you know, a gazillion likes or, you know, a 10 billion views or something like that. We're trying to help you create authentic content that only you can do based on the skills that you have, what you have in your head. Get that on the platform to the right people who may be able to, you know, uh, learn from that or do something with it or hire you because of it, and that's where we find success. So I think that that's just a different mindset that we always tell people about using LinkedIn. Um, you may not get, you know, the views you get on so many other platforms, but the people you reach, the quality of the audience, the opportunities that come, are what we're really trying to do.

Marina Mogilko 12:17 You get the right views. Also, what I notice as a creator, telling your personal stories, especially if they're tied to some events-

Ryan Roslansky 12:24 Yeah

Marina Mogilko 12:24 ... really, really helps-

Ryan Roslansky 12:25 Yeah

Marina Mogilko 12:26 ... grow.

Ryan Roslansky 12:26 Yeah. I think it's interesting. I mean, I, I think, uh, especially, um, you know, more in the younger generation, it always kind of felt-... taboo to talk about anything that felt, you know, not buttoned up and professional on LinkedIn. But, but more and more, I think the next generation, um, not only are they okay with it, but it actually tells a lot more about who they are, their personality, what they know, how they think. Um, and it's really kind of refreshing to see that happen on LinkedIn.

Marina Mogilko 12:51 Absolutely. Let's go back to our LinkedIn profiles. There's a huge section, education, right?

Ryan Roslansky 12:56 Mm-hmm.

Marina Mogilko 12:56 And a lot of people would take, like, top universities, small courses, just to have that name, right?

Ryan Roslansky 13:01 Yeah.

Marina Mogilko 13:01 'Cause it meant a lot. Do you think college means as much these days, or because we can acquire any skill online, it's just kind of fading, fading away?

Ryan Roslansky 13:10 So two things: one, um,

Ryan Roslansky 13:13 I dropped out of college very early on and was really focused on the skills that I needed to start a company and be an entrepreneur. So I have kind of a mixed view on that. Um, I do know right now, at least in the US, 50% of college graduates this year will graduate either unemployed or underemployed, and credit card debt is being outpaced by student loan debt for the first time in history. So there's something that's not really working in the current system. I am nowhere close to going so far as to say college isn't worth it. The social experience, the learning to... You know, the soft skills and you being able to be around people and communicate, uh, I think are critical. And if you can, you know, if you're fortunate enough to be in a college environment,

Ryan Roslansky 14:04 to have that experience, I think it's really, really worth it. But I think that it's really more about a lot of those soft skills, um, for most professions, than the typical hard skills that we always thought about from college in the past. And more importantly, you know, more and more now, when recruiters or anyone looking to hire on LinkedIn are starting their process, they aren't looking at what school did you go to? They're looking at, "What skills do you have," or, "What did your last post look like so I know more about you?" So it's, it's mattering less than it has in the past, what, what school you went to.

Marina Mogilko 14:36 Are you still betting on college for your daughters? Because I know you have three daughters, right?

Ryan Roslansky 14:39 Absolutely, and I think, again, I think a lot of the social-

Marina Mogilko 14:42 Mm-hmm

Ryan Roslansky 14:42 ... um, you know, components of that are critical. It's a great place to learn how to grow up, um, to learn how to interact with other people, um, you know, to form a network, um, to make mistakes. And so, um, you know, while I would never mandate anything that any of my children do, you know, so far, at least my oldest one, like, that's the career path that, that, that she's taken, and she's having a wonderful time.

Marina Mogilko 15:03 Have you ever regretted dropping out?

Ryan Roslansky 15:05 I think I missed a lot of really fun years by leaving college early. That's for sure.

Marina Mogilko 15:09 All right. That's... Yeah, still, still a big question.

Ryan Roslansky 15:12 Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Marina Mogilko 15:12 So you are releasing a book, Open to Work. Can you talk about how someone can use this book to navigate their future? I feel like you're the best person to write this book, by the way, because you have all the data, you're seeing what's happening on the market, and yeah, I'm looking forward to reading it.

Ryan Roslansky 15:28 Thank you. So it's been actually kind of unique because I've spent 25 years building, you know, internet products, where you can build a product and test it out with people and see what happens and then change it really quickly. When you write a book, you write it, and it's kind of final, and you hope and, you know, pray that it goes out there and people find value out of it. So we're excited to release, uh, it soon. But it's a book that was written to help people really understand and bring some clarity to what career paths look like in an AI-first world. There's a lot of uncertainty. I think people are scared. They don't know where to start. They don't know where to turn. This book acts as a guide to help you understand how to think through it, what AI can do, what AI can't do, um, the importance of the human skills that, that we just talked about, um, and how you can, you know,

Ryan Roslansky 16:13 kind of pull those two things together and figure out what you want to do with your career and make the best career path for yourself. Um, you know, it's not a crystal ball, but, you know, it's... We try and leverage a lot of the things that we know and see on LinkedIn to help people make right career decisions because it's so difficult, especially when you're starting out, to, to know what to do or how to think. And right now, there's just so much, you know, u- unique craziness in the world of, you know, what does AI mean for jobs and, and roles and skills? So at the end of the day, if we can help more people make smarter career decisions, like, that's what we're aiming to do, and we do that every day through LinkedIn. But we wanted to try something a different approach as well, uh, for people who maybe aren't on LinkedIn or just, you know, want to kind of see it in a book form, so.

Marina Mogilko 16:55 Is there a principle from that book that you can share, that people can use to guide their careers?

Ryan Roslansky 16:59 I think most importantly, a lot of what I see on LinkedIn are people just absolutely hyper-focused on, um, the hard skills, the AI skills, the technical skills, and they're completely dismissing the human skills. So we talk about it in 5 Cs that we think are critical for you to learn and to master that will make you stand out in the future: curiosity, courage, creativity, uh, compassion, and communication.

Marina Mogilko 17:30 Mm-hmm.

Ryan Roslansky 17:30 Like, learning and understanding the importance of those five skills, uh, are where I would invest the majority of my time right now as a professional.

Marina Mogilko 17:38 It's interesting 'cause we have a lot of tools on how to develop our hard skills.

Ryan Roslansky 17:41 Yes.

Marina Mogilko 17:42 But when it comes to curiosity, how do you even acquire that?

Ryan Roslansky 17:44 Yeah. So it's hard. I mean, some people are fortunate enough to be born

Ryan Roslansky 17:47 with it.

Marina Mogilko 17:47 Yeah.

Ryan Roslansky 17:47 Um, but, you know, we do a lot through LinkedIn Learning to also help, you know, through the data that we have, to, you know, teach techniques and how to think about a lot of these soft skills. People think they can't be learned, but they actually really can be learned. They need to be practiced like any other skill. But, um, again, I think it's kind of that misnomer that soft means it wasn't as important, and just kind of bringing that to the forefront, I think is the most important thing right now.

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Ryan Roslansky 19:09 I hope that's not the case. [chuckles]

Marina Mogilko 19:10 Not like-

Ryan Roslansky 19:11 Um, I absolutely expect that AI is going to, uh, democratize access to opportunity in a way that so many people that have always wanted to create something or start something, um, build a business, be an entrepreneur, will have the tools to do it. Um, I don't think it's gonna be the only path, but I do think we will see many, many more entrepreneurs, and I think that's a really, really good thing.

Marina Mogilko 19:39 Yeah. Yeah, me too. Can you, uh, give me, you think, th- top three jobs for the next three year- uh, three to five years, and-

Ryan Roslansky 19:48 Top three as defined how?

Marina Mogilko 19:50 And top... Uh, most in demand.

Ryan Roslansky 19:52 So right now, um, there's a role called data annotator. You know what this is?

Marina Mogilko 19:56 No.

Ryan Roslansky 19:58 It's fascinating. So, um, anytime you use a large language model, um, at the end of the day, the way that those models keep getting better and better are there are many human beings that are, you know, being paid to evaluate the output of those models based on their expertise. So, you know, maybe you're a, I don't know, a cardiologist is your full-time job in, in, in, like, you know, the real world and the

Ryan Roslansky 20:24 real life. But, um, you know, a, a large language model company is trying to make their model better for people who are asking questions around heart health.

Marina Mogilko 20:31 Mm-hmm.

Ryan Roslansky 20:32 They will take the response that the model's giving, actually hand it to, you know, the cardiologist, and pay them to say, "Mark this up." You know, "Is this right or wrong? What do you think?" And then take that and put it back-

Marina Mogilko 20:42 Wow

Ryan Roslansky 20:43 ... into the model.

Marina Mogilko 20:44 There, there are huge companies-

Ryan Roslansky 20:45 Exactly

Marina Mogilko 20:45 ... huge companies-

Ryan Roslansky 20:45 Exactly

Marina Mogilko 20:45 ... sourcing those people, too.

Ryan Roslansky 20:46 Exactly.

Marina Mogilko 20:47 Yeah.

Ryan Roslansky 20:47 And so that role is... I mean, if you think about, like, every, uh, you know, topic, every niche topic, every language, like, has to be covered through these models.

Marina Mogilko 20:58 Yeah.

Ryan Roslansky 20:58 And there's so much knowledge in people's heads that, um, I think that's going to be a really, really, um, you know, hot job moving forward.

Marina Mogilko 21:07 Wow.

Ryan Roslansky 21:07 I also think anything that has to do with building, uh, out data centers, and these are all types of jobs. These are, you know, trade jobs. These are hyper-technical jobs. These are, you know, maintenance jobs. Um, but building the infrastructure of data centers moving forward, I think, is gonna be critical because in order for anything that's AI related to actually flourish, there's a foundation that needs to be put in place.

Marina Mogilko 21:28 Mm-hmm.

Ryan Roslansky 21:28 And then the, the last one I'm paying a lot of attention to, um, is actually something which is called a, um, you know, a forward-deployed engineer, and that sounds like a really kind of odd term. But basically, what it means is, when a company decides that they want to pull AI into their company, they want to better use AI, uh, it's really a tricky s- like, thing to figure out, and historically, that was kind of up to the IT department to figure out. But this new role, you know, a forward-deployed engineer, is someone that will sit in the actual business, in the marketing department, um, in the product department, uh, who is really skilled at both business needs and understanding how AI works to kind of make that connection-

Marina Mogilko 22:05 Mm

Ryan Roslansky 22:06 ... inside of a company. So companies are frequently hiring these people right now to help, you know, not just make AI a cool thing we put in our company, but actually help it return real value to the business.

Marina Mogilko 22:17 I love that.

Ryan Roslansky 22:17 And creator, that's my fourth really important job.

Marina Mogilko 22:20 Thank you.

Ryan Roslansky 22:20 Sorry. Yeah, yeah.

Marina Mogilko 22:20 Thank you so much.

Ryan Roslansky 22:21 Yeah.

Marina Mogilko 22:21 Thank you. [chuckles] I feel like we're on the rise this year.

Ryan Roslansky 22:23 [laughing]

Marina Mogilko 22:23 That's awesome. And do you think there are any jobs, maybe, like, three jobs that you think are disappearing?

Ryan Roslansky 22:29 If you think about everyone's job, your job, my job, anybody's job, um, ultimately, it's a set of skills and tasks. If you break your job down like that, and then you kind of think about the ability for each task to be automatable by AI, you can quickly see that if your job is just a set of tasks that can be automated, you need to start finding a new job. So AI right now is really good at things like summarizing or, um, rewriting or translating. So, you know, those types of jobs where AI is good at those skills are the types of jobs where, you know, we both try and, through our data, help LinkedIn members who have those jobs realize, "Hey, here's some more skills you should be adding, you know, to kind of, you know, future-proof yourself." But that's kind of the framework to think through maybe where jobs will be more impacted.

Marina Mogilko 23:20 I love that. Thank you so much, Ryan. That was so insightful, and I hope everybody who just watched, you go and start posting on LinkedIn. I've been telling this to everyone around me. My husband started posting. He got a few thousand subscribers right away, so-

Ryan Roslansky 23:33 Awesome

Marina Mogilko 23:33 ... the algorithm is really working.

Ryan Roslansky 23:34 Awesome.

Marina Mogilko 23:34 Thank you so much. [chuckles]

Ryan Roslansky 23:35 Thanks again for being here. Thank you.

Marina Mogilko 23:36 Thank you.