Jason Lemkin: Cold Email Tips; Why Only 15% of Founders Listen to their VCs | 20VC #954

Jason Lemkin: Cold Email Tips; Why Only 15% of Founders Listen to their VCs | 20VC #954

The Twenty Minute VCNov 30, 20221h 16m

Harry Stebbings (host), Jason Lemkin (guest)

How Jason sources and evaluates cold inbound deals (Algolia, Pipedrive, others)What makes a great cold email and differing investor preferencesOwnership, valuation sensitivity, and learning to ‘lose money’ in ventureOperator-to-VC transition: investing in problems you deeply understandCompetition, commoditization, and presenting competitive landscapes effectivelyCauses of hypergrowth plateaus: management timing, iteration speed, TAM expansionVC–founder dynamics: hard feedback, board roles, partnerships, and LP pressuresBrand, content, and platform shifts (SaaStr, 20VC, Quora, TikTok) in ventureZombie startups, overfunding, and the future of LP and manager selection

In this episode of The Twenty Minute VC, featuring Harry Stebbings and Jason Lemkin, Jason Lemkin: Cold Email Tips; Why Only 15% of Founders Listen to their VCs | 20VC #954 explores jason Lemkin Reveals Cold Email Secrets, Founder Mistakes, VC Truths Jason Lemkin and Harry Stebbings dissect how the very best cold emails and ‘inbound super-fans’ drive Jason’s entire investment strategy, using Algolia as a case study. Jason explains why he only backs founders who already love SaaStr, and why a detailed, data-rich cold email can be enough for him to want to invest before a meeting. They explore core venture topics: ownership and valuation mistakes, founder quality, competition, TAM, zombie companies, LP behavior, and how operators should transition into VC by betting on problems they know intimately. The conversation also dives into decay in investor edge, the role of brand and content (SaaStr, 20VC, TikTok), and the tension between giving brutal board feedback and preserving founder relationships.

Jason Lemkin Reveals Cold Email Secrets, Founder Mistakes, VC Truths

Jason Lemkin and Harry Stebbings dissect how the very best cold emails and ‘inbound super-fans’ drive Jason’s entire investment strategy, using Algolia as a case study. Jason explains why he only backs founders who already love SaaStr, and why a detailed, data-rich cold email can be enough for him to want to invest before a meeting. They explore core venture topics: ownership and valuation mistakes, founder quality, competition, TAM, zombie companies, LP behavior, and how operators should transition into VC by betting on problems they know intimately. The conversation also dives into decay in investor edge, the role of brand and content (SaaStr, 20VC, TikTok), and the tension between giving brutal board feedback and preserving founder relationships.

Key Takeaways

A+ cold emails can win top investors—make them detailed and data-rich.

Jason only invests off inbound from SaaStr super-fans and wants emails that clearly state MRR, growth rate, NRR, top customers, team, and why you’ll win—so strong he’d want to invest before meeting. ...

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Invest in problems you’ve personally suffered from; your edge decays fast.

Jason’s biggest winners (Algolia, Talkdesk, Front, Salesloft, Gorgias, Pipedrive, Greenhouse) map directly to his worst operator headaches—search, contact center, CRM, outbound, recruiting. ...

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Aim for meaningful ownership; sub‑10% stakes rarely justify the effort.

Jason now optimizes for at least 10% and wants one 20%+ position per “batch” as a solo GP, realizing his early valuation sensitivity (e. ...

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Founders must be clearly better than you in their domain, or pass.

As an operator-turned-VC, Jason’s rule is to only back CEOs who are at least slightly better than he was on the same problem; if they aren’t, competition and complexity will outpace them in 2–3 years. ...

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Respect competition deeply and avoid ‘throwaway’ two-by-two slides.

The best founders know their competitors cold and often publish honest, data-backed comparisons (e. ...

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Hypergrowth proves TAM; plateaus usually signal management and iteration issues.

Explosive early growth, especially against free/open-source competitors, is strong evidence of a large market and product magic. ...

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Brutally honest board feedback helps companies but often damages relationships.

Jason estimates only ~15% of founders really want hard feedback, 25% tolerate it, and 60% resent it; he’s seen ‘kick-in-the-ass’ conversations save businesses but permanently strain relationships. ...

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Notable Quotes

“I only invest from inbound SaaStr super fans. Every deal I’ve tried to go out and get, I’ve failed.”

Jason Lemkin

“I like a cold email that’s so good I already want to invest before the meeting.”

Jason Lemkin

“You have to invest in CEOs that were better than you. If they’re not better than you, you shouldn’t invest.”

Jason Lemkin

“Hyper growth in the early days can decay, but it proves you have a large TAM. That’s all I need to know for TAM.”

Jason Lemkin

“I would say only maybe 15% of founders really can take the feedback… and 60% will hate you for it.”

Jason Lemkin

Questions Answered in This Episode

How should a founder tailor their cold email when different top investors prefer radically different formats and levels of detail?

Jason Lemkin and Harry Stebbings dissect how the very best cold emails and ‘inbound super-fans’ drive Jason’s entire investment strategy, using Algolia as a case study. ...

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If you’re an operator-turned-VC whose ‘pain window’ is expiring, what concrete steps can you take to build a fresh edge rather than drifting into a generic playbook?

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How can founders honestly assess whether they are truly ‘better’ than an experienced operator in their space—and what should they do if they aren’t?

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In a world of overfunded ‘zombie’ startups with decade-long runways, what mechanisms (if any) should exist to force hard resets or capital recycling?

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Given Jason’s view that face-to-face meetings build crucial trust, how should founders and VCs adapt their relationship-building playbook in an era of predominantly remote fundraising?

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Transcript Preview

Harry Stebbings

Jason, I am so excited for this. I can't believe it. You know it was seven years since we first chatted, so thank you so much for joining me again today.

Jason Lemkin

Wow. Well, Harry, it's just be- it, it has genuinely been a delight to watch 20VC just grow and grow over the years. And, uh, you know, it's, if, if it's been seven years, it's a good reminder that overnight success stories take a long time.

Harry Stebbings

Oh my god.

Jason Lemkin

(laughs)

Harry Stebbings

I mean, (laughs) Jason, I feel so fucking old. I wear a hat because my hair is thinning, my friend.

Jason Lemkin

I have been wondering about the hat on the TikToks. I've been wondering where that hat comes from, but, um, yeah.

Harry Stebbings

Do, do you, do you know why? Fun fact, we get 28% higher engagement because of the hat. There we go.

Jason Lemkin

I see. I see. I see.

Harry Stebbings

Now listen, we're, we're gonna do the Algolia story here.

Jason Lemkin

Okay.

Harry Stebbings

So I wanna do a little bit of context setting.

Jason Lemkin

Sure.

Harry Stebbings

Where did you first meet the team? How did you meet them? How did that meeting go? Can you paint that picture for me?

Jason Lemkin

Well, first of all, one thing that's pretty... It may be true of you to some extent because in some ways we invest similarly in some ways. Um, but I only invest, um, from inbound SaaStr super fans. Uh, every deal I've tried to go out and get, I've failed. I do nothing outbound. Every warm referral doesn't work out. Nothing works out except the high velocity inbound email. Um, "My round's oversubscribed. Would you like to meet?" Or, "I just wanna meet with you." And some of, well, some of those emails, they're soony baloney, but the really good ones break through. And every single investment I've done has been a high velocity inbound, including if we, if we're gonna talk about Algolia today, we'll talk about that, my second venture investment. Um, just, it's not that I don't think hunting is a good strategy, it's just not good for me.

Harry Stebbings

You mentioned about the ones that break through.

Jason Lemkin

Yeah.

Harry Stebbings

What is it about those that break through that break through? Is it the traction? Is it the team? Are there elements and commonalities which stand out which make them higher signal for you?

Jason Lemkin

What I learned is that the, look, there are exceptions. It's funny. The, um, we did this digital event during COVID with the founders of Monday.com, and they asked-

Harry Stebbings

Yeah.

Jason Lemkin

... why I didn't respond to their inbound email. And I, I'm like, "Oh my god, how did I miss the one from the Monday founders?" And, and obviously the b- and I went back and their inbound email was terrible. It was very interesting. It was a horrible two lin- they had a different name before Monday. They were, like, Harry and Jason's we- wedding rentals. I'm making it up, but it was a terrible name they, they bought Monday... They bought a great URL, right? And the email was like, you know, "We love SaaStr. We're gonna be in town for SaaStr Annual. Can you meet next week?" Those are the worst ones because I got 10,000 people coming to SaaStr Annual. So thi- it's not that this is the best strategy, but what I found with the best investments I've done, Algolia, we'll talk about Talkdesk, Sales Loft, Greenhouse, um, Gorgias, um, Pipedrive, my first investment. Like, the best founders are great communicators one way or the other, right? And so if you can write an incredible cold email, like an incredible inbound email, um, you, you can, you can judge a human being and a company just from that email if it's A plus, right? But you'll lose the Mondays. (laughs) Like, that was my, that was my big wake up moment of the limitations, which I always knew, of this strategy-

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