Adam Mosseri: Why Video Is Bad For Business; Does Feed Matter Anymore? | E1039

Adam Mosseri: Why Video Is Bad For Business; Does Feed Matter Anymore? | E1039

The Twenty Minute VCJul 24, 20231h 27m

Adam Mosseri (guest), Harry Stebbings (host)

Career journey from designer to product and organizational leaderInstagram’s product evolution: feed, Stories, DMs, Reels, and recommendationsMajor product missteps, backlash (e.g., “Panavision”) and course correctionThreads strategy: graph bootstrapping, creator activation, retention focusCreators, monetization models, and the interest graph vs. social graphLeadership, culture, and managing through founder departures and team rebuildsPersonal life: parenting, marriage, time allocation, and definitions of success

In this episode of The Twenty Minute VC, featuring Adam Mosseri and Harry Stebbings, Adam Mosseri: Why Video Is Bad For Business; Does Feed Matter Anymore? | E1039 explores adam Mosseri on Instagram’s Evolution, Messaging Surge, and Threads Gamble Adam Mosseri traces his path from middle‑of‑the‑pack designer to Instagram’s head, emphasizing breadth of skills, clear problem framing, and relentless execution over raw talent. He explains Instagram’s strategic pivots: the shift of sharing from feed to Stories to DMs, the controversial push into recommendations and video, and how Reels and messaging now power the app’s growth. Mosseri details the thinking behind launching Threads, from bootstrapping its graph off Instagram to creator‑led seeding and the focus on long‑term retention over headline signups. Interwoven are lessons on leadership, taking over a founder‑led company, managing backlash, supporting creators, and balancing an intense job with family and personal priorities.

Adam Mosseri on Instagram’s Evolution, Messaging Surge, and Threads Gamble

Adam Mosseri traces his path from middle‑of‑the‑pack designer to Instagram’s head, emphasizing breadth of skills, clear problem framing, and relentless execution over raw talent. He explains Instagram’s strategic pivots: the shift of sharing from feed to Stories to DMs, the controversial push into recommendations and video, and how Reels and messaging now power the app’s growth. Mosseri details the thinking behind launching Threads, from bootstrapping its graph off Instagram to creator‑led seeding and the focus on long‑term retention over headline signups. Interwoven are lessons on leadership, taking over a founder‑led company, managing backlash, supporting creators, and balancing an intense job with family and personal priorities.

Key Takeaways

Breadth of capability can be a superpower for leadership roles.

Mosseri frames himself as “middle of the pack” in design but strong across disciplines; that breadth, coupled with reliability and solving problems end‑to‑end without hand‑holding, made him an obvious choice for leadership over narrow specialists.

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Clarify the problem, explore multiple solutions, and ruthlessly sift feedback.

He describes good design and product work as first defining the problem crisply, generating alternatives, and then systematically evaluating them while separating noise from signal in feedback—an approach he now applies to all leadership decisions.

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Over‑communication is essential; saying something once is never enough.

To move a large organization, he repeats key messages until he’s sick of hearing himself say them, recognizing that internal alignment requires both clear content and high frequency, much like external marketing.

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Big product shifts must balance clear long‑term logic with short‑term pain.

The controversial introduction of recommendations in feed and heavier emphasis on video were, in his view, obviously correct to prevent feed decay—but they triggered strong backlash because they collided with users’ mental model of Instagram as a photo‑feed of friends.

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Messaging is now the core engagement surface, but Instagram isn’t a pure messenger.

Data showed more rich media shared in DMs than Stories or feed, leading Mosseri to reallocate entire teams to messaging; yet he positions Instagram DMs as “conversation starters” tied to shared media, not a utility messaging app like WhatsApp.

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Launching Threads succeeded by leaning into existing strengths, not starting cold.

Threads’ explosive signup growth came from letting users import identity and follow‑graphs from Instagram, pre‑seeding creators in key verticals, and engineering FOMO—rather than expecting a new app to organically create its own network from scratch.

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Creators need durable tools and predictable economics, not just checks.

He’s skeptical of indiscriminate creator payouts as a business model, arguing instead for scalable tools (subscriptions, branded content facilitation, performance‑based incentives) and platforms that reliably deliver reach and monetization, especially compared to lottery‑like schemes.

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Notable Quotes

My strength is my breadth. I’m not great at anything really; I just have a wide range of things I can do reasonably well.

Adam Mosseri

If you really want to move the team on something, you need to say it until you literally want to throw up in your mouth—and then you need to say it again.

Adam Mosseri

If you’re not making mistakes, you’re not trying big enough things.

Adam Mosseri

People think of Instagram as a feed, and it’s the third most important surface at best. Teens spend more time in DMs than Stories, and more time in Stories than feed.

Adam Mosseri

I want to be proud of how I spent my time when I look back.

Adam Mosseri

Questions Answered in This Episode

How should Instagram balance user nostalgia for a photo‑centric feed with the clear data showing that Stories, DMs, and video drive current engagement?

Adam Mosseri traces his path from middle‑of‑the‑pack designer to Instagram’s head, emphasizing breadth of skills, clear problem framing, and relentless execution over raw talent. ...

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What would a truly ‘AI‑native’ Instagram or Threads experience look like, beyond incremental workflow improvements?

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How far can recommendation‑driven feeds go before they erode users’ sense of connection to real friends and communities?

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In hindsight, what concrete guardrails would Mosseri put in place to avoid another ‘Panavision’‑style backlash when rolling out major changes?

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What does a sustainable, creator‑centric business model for platforms look like in ten years, and how might Instagram and Threads need to evolve their incentives to get there?

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Adam Mosseri

It definitely made me shift more resources towards messaging. Actually, at one point a couple years ago, I think I put the entire stories team on messaging.

Harry Stebbings

Wow.

Adam Mosseri

Um ...

Harry Stebbings

Why?

Adam Mosseri

Because it was where, take out all the text, there are more photos and videos shared in DMs than there are shared in stories. And there's-

Harry Stebbings

Huh.

Adam Mosseri

... way more shared in stories than there is in feed. So just forget about the text for a second, just the photos and videos, just the media, the rich media, it's a bigger deal and growing faster in DMs than anywhere else.

Harry Stebbings

Adam, I am so excited for this one. We said just beforehand how many reference calls I've done. I heard nothing but wonderful things. So thank you so much for joining me.

Adam Mosseri

Oh, well, thank you for having me. You have to have heard some bad things, I feel like.

Harry Stebbings

Well, I mean, it's coming in question two. I thought-

Adam Mosseri

Okay. (laughs)

Harry Stebbings

... I'd start with a nice one. But the nice one and the kind of ease intro, I normally do like, how did you get into tech? But I think it was Sam Lessin who said about your first job was a bartender-

Adam Mosseri

Mm-hmm.

Harry Stebbings

... and what you learned from it. I was intrigued to start on that.

Adam Mosseri

One, yeah, bartending was one of my first jobs, um, just paying for sort of rent and stuff in New York and, and university. I think it's good. I think, I mean, look, I spent a lot of time, uh, as, as a teenager in service. So bartending, um, as a waiter, a dishwasher, you know, like short chef, that kind of thing. And I think service is a really good thing to do early in life because it teaches you, um, some humility, but also how to work with people in a wide ri- range of people, because you end up with all sorts of, uh, clients, whether you're waiting or bartending specifically. And then figuring out how to manage different personalities at a young age I think is also a good thing. And then also, it's just good to appreciate good service. Um, you, you end up being a good tipper for life.

Harry Stebbings

I totally agree with you. It's funny actually, um, I think it's Goldman Sachs or JP Morgan, the highest rated like point on your CV you can have is if you worked at McDonald's.

Adam Mosseri

Really?

Harry Stebbings

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Adam Mosseri

That's amazing.

Harry Stebbings

Because of time pressures, difficult customers, lots of different moving parts.

Adam Mosseri

Yeah, yeah.

Harry Stebbings

It's actually challenging in so many different ways.

Adam Mosseri

I believe it. I totally believe it.

Harry Stebbings

Um, my first job was selling mobile phones on eBay, so... (laughs)

Adam Mosseri

Sounds about right. Sounds about right. (laughs)

Harry Stebbings

Yeah, yeah. Um, but then I heard about kind of the transition from like, very young and junior designer to the incredible product leader that we have today. Talk to me about that and the early days of being a junior designer and how you felt about what you needed to do to become a product leader.

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