Gumroad CEO's playbook to 40x his team's productivity with v0, Cursor, and Devin | Sahil Lavingia

Can you do something that used to take two weeks in two hours? And that's like a 40 times speed increase. So that's kind of like the number that I have in my head generally, like, what's the most optimistic case if you kind of remove all the bottlenecks? Something that would take 40 hours would take one hour.

If you're suggesting to us that AI is gonna raise the bar on what's possible to do, you are certainly setting the standard.

The majority of human engineering will be removing tech debt such that AI engineers can actually ship features. It's also scary, I think, which is why I think so many people shy away from this stuff, is like there is this part why change is uncomfortable, is that change can kill you. There's, like, a fear of change. It's like job security, right? But at the end of the day, I think it's sort of also job insecurity.

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