Kara Swisher Breaks Down Feud Between Elon Musk and Sam Altman | Pivot

President Trump is embracing artificial intelligence in a big way, announcing Stargate, a joint venture between OpenAI, SoftBank, and Oracle that aims to build up AI infrastructure in the US. He had nothing to do with it, but he did get to announce it. There's no government money here, just... I got so many people like, "Why is the government giving these people money?" They're not. This is a, this is an initiative. It's just a press release from the White House is what it is. That's why he was there. Had Sam Altman was there, Larry Ellison was there, Masayoshi Son was there, uh, who- all of who have up and down startup experience if some- if you wanna say that. They're sort of big-time investors. So this has been in the works, just so you know. It's been in the works for a long time. (laughs) It's not- this is not a new thing, and I, I believe they offered it to the Biden people to do it sooner, um, and they didn't bite, I suppose. Trump knows how to bite. Trump's done almost nothing here to do that, except for pose with them in the White House, which is not a bad thing. Um, it's already broke ground... I know a lot about this. I've talked to all of the different players in it. Um, and just for, for history's sake, Masa had promised this in the last administration and didn't really make a lot of the investments that he said he was gonna make, the last Trump administration. That said, he's also a very good entrepreneur on many things and a very bad one on others. Um, there also was Foxconn in the last, uh, era. It never got built, which Trump had promised and touted and everything else. That said, this is a much more substantive group of people, um, and they're already building the thing. After the announcement, though, Elon Musk, who was not in the room and purposely not in the room, in case everybody's interested. I have talked to a lot of people. They made sure he wasn't there. He was stirring the pot, posting on X that these companies don't have the capital to invest. Sam Altman responded, "Wrong." He went on to say, "I realize what is great for the country isn't always what's optimal for your companies, but in your new role, I hope you mostly put America first." The word mostly is doing a lot of work. (laughs) It's such a troll. It was such a perfect troll. Um, I think part of... Let me say because I've done a little reporting into it, is, um, uh, they don't have the money yet, but they have a lot of money also, and they'll get the money. I, I've talked to all the parties. Microsoft's a partner, there's other partners, and essentially it's to build a data center, um, and build them all over the country. They still also need energy centers. They need all kinds of chips, building chips here. There's gonna be a lot of this kind of stuff, a lot of money, not much result yet. Um, so start on that because I want to also get into this tech telenovela, as I'm calling it, between Musk and Altman because they continued through the night to troll back and forth, and I'll, we'll talk about that in a minute, but talk about the announcement itself.