MAGA Civil War Erupts Over Iran | Pivot

I predict this MAGA micropenis war is gonna get worse, and I am here for it. [upbeat music] Hi, everyone. This is Pivot from New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network. I'm Kara Swisher.

And I'm Scott Galloway.

Scott, have you recovered from South by Southwest and your partying?

I'm still basking in the glow. I thought it was great.

[chuckles] It was good. Yeah, I had a good time in the end. It was really fun. Um, what was your favorite highlight of it?

My favorite highlight, um-

Besides our time together

... the way Representative Talarico described masculinity.

Yeah.

And he talks about his father, I guess, used to come home on Sunday and immediately change and then mow their lawn, and then without ever talking about it, just went next door and mowed the lawn of this old lady's and, and I thought, and, and he described that-

Yeah, that really struck you. You mentioned it at the show, that why... Did you, did, did you ever mow people's lawns, Scott?

I used to mow lawns for money, but I, I didn't do it. [chuckles] I showed up to the house before I mowed a lawn and said, "Hey, seven bucks in Ohio-"

Yeah.

"... and I'll mow your lawn."

Oh, wow. Okay.

And I had a manual lawnmower, and I was all of about 120 pounds pushing a manual lawnmower around.

So you, you were not taught to mow people's lawns?

No, I was taught to make money. I w- my dad was like, "Go make money." [chuckles] My, my son got a, um, a job at a taco truck last summer.

Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

It was so good for him.

Yeah.

Um, you know, so many... Anyways, I, I think, uh, chores, chores, jobs, and sports, I mean, anyways, and, uh-

Anyways, well, the reason I'm asking is 'cause it's introspection, and when your introspection is-

Oh, I've got, I, I've gotten much more introspective just-

Yeah

... to today, I'm here in Tulum, and I've had some time to-

Mm-hmm

... really contemplate, and I've decided that I, I-- it's time for me at this age, Kara.

Yeah.

It's time for me. Life is finite. It's time for me to start, to start living my dreams, so I'm gonna start showing up for tests I'm not prepared for naked.

[laughing] Well, as always-

Mm.

So you're in the Marc Andreessen school. Have you heard about this situation, Marc?

Well, uh-

Let me just say what it is.

Okay.

Marc Andreessen, who I really don't like anymore, I didn't like that much then, but he's really become such a troll. He said, uh, on the fa-- He's an, a famous-- He, he was part of the Netscape browser thing. I wouldn't say he was the only person. He did take a lot of credit. Um, but, uh, im- important entrepreneur in Silicon Valley, um, and et cetera. Now he's a venture capitalist. On the Founders podcast with David Senra, he said, "My goal is zero introspection, as little as possible. Four hundred years ago, it would never occur to anybody to be introspective, like the whole idea. I mean, just all the modern conceptions around introspection and therapy and all the things that kind of result, uh, from that are kind of manufactured in 1910s, 1920s." Uh, this is very much in line with him being an expert on everything. He used to lecture me about things he knew nothing about a lot. Um, uh, it, it-- all it says to me is this man is in desperate need of therapy. Um, to, you know, he's just trying to be like, "I don't think about anything," um, and I find it, I found it very, uh, dystopian, and I find him dystopian in general. Um, but this idea that introspection is a weakness, again, is not masculine, it's not feminine, it's not hu-human, I think, in some way.