Bluesky Challenges Threads and X for Social Media Dominance  | Pivot

Bluesky Challenges Threads and X for Social Media Dominance | Pivot

PivotNov 26, 20248m

Kara Swisher (host), Scott Galloway (host), Narrator

Bluesky’s rapid user growth and engagement metricsCompetitive dynamics between Bluesky, Threads, and X/TwitterProduct experience: fun, news-centric Bluesky vs. marketing-friendly ThreadsDecentralization, protocol design, and the idea of being “billionaire-proof”Bluesky’s funding, valuation prospects, and investor interestAdvertising and media spend as a resilient, shifting revenue poolContent moderation, “censorship” rhetoric, and Elon Musk’s echo chamber

In this episode of Pivot, featuring Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway, Bluesky Challenges Threads and X for Social Media Dominance | Pivot explores bluesky’s Rapid Rise Pressures Threads and X in Social Shake-Up Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway discuss Bluesky’s explosive user growth and how it is reshaping the competitive landscape with Threads and X (formerly Twitter). They highlight that Bluesky has surged from 13 to 23 million users in two weeks, now rivaling or surpassing Threads in daily active usage, while Meta scrambles to copy its features. The conversation explores why users find Bluesky appealing—its fun, newsy vibe reminiscent of old Twitter without the toxicity—and how its decentralized protocol and woman-led leadership differentiate it. They also examine Bluesky’s funding, likely valuation trajectory, and the broader shift of ad dollars within social and media platforms.

Bluesky’s Rapid Rise Pressures Threads and X in Social Shake-Up

Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway discuss Bluesky’s explosive user growth and how it is reshaping the competitive landscape with Threads and X (formerly Twitter). They highlight that Bluesky has surged from 13 to 23 million users in two weeks, now rivaling or surpassing Threads in daily active usage, while Meta scrambles to copy its features. The conversation explores why users find Bluesky appealing—its fun, newsy vibe reminiscent of old Twitter without the toxicity—and how its decentralized protocol and woman-led leadership differentiate it. They also examine Bluesky’s funding, likely valuation trajectory, and the broader shift of ad dollars within social and media platforms.

Key Takeaways

Bluesky has become the hottest new product in tech by growth and buzz.

Its user base jumped from 13 to 23 million in two weeks, and daily usage now rivals or exceeds Threads, signaling strong product-market fit and momentum.

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User experience differentiation is driving platform choice, not simple either-or loyalty.

Bluesky offers a cool, news-forward, old-Twitter vibe, while Threads functions more like an Instagram-with-text hub that’s better for marketing and viral entertainment content.

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Meta is reacting competitively by copying Bluesky-like features.

Threads is rolling out custom feeds and re-embracing news and politics, suggesting Bluesky’s traction is influencing product roadmaps at much larger incumbents.

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Bluesky’s protocol approach aims to be “billionaire-proof” and user-portable.

By being a protocol that can host many feeds and let users take their data with them, Bluesky is trying to reduce single-owner platform risk and centralization.

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Investor interest is intense, and Bluesky’s valuation is likely to soar quickly.

After a $15M Series A (implying a sub-$1B valuation), Galloway predicts a new round within 90 days at over $1B, reflecting its position in a hot category with network effects.

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Advertising remains a large, stable revenue pool that new platforms can tap.

Media spend tends to hover around 1. ...

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Moderation is central to Bluesky’s identity, contrasting with Musk’s X.

Bluesky’s leadership openly supports moderation and removes users when needed, while Musk is accused of building an ideological echo chamber and throttling news links on X.

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Notable Quotes

“This is the hottest new product in tech right now, no doubt.”

Scott Galloway

“Blue Sky is like the coolest bar you’ve ever been to, and why are you over at The Cheesecake Factory?”

Kara Swisher (quoting Amanda, then riffing on it)

“Its usage, its daily active usage, is now greater than Threads.”

Scott Galloway

“The CEO has said the platform is billionaire-proof because it’s not one centralized feed of content.”

Kara Swisher

“So, yeah, why would you invest? So you can make a shit ton of money.”

Scott Galloway

Questions Answered in This Episode

How sustainable is Bluesky’s current growth, and what metrics would signal that it’s more than a hype-driven spike?

Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway discuss Bluesky’s explosive user growth and how it is reshaping the competitive landscape with Threads and X (formerly Twitter). ...

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In practical terms, how does Bluesky’s protocol model protect users from billionaire control compared with traditional platforms?

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What specific product or policy choices can help Bluesky maintain an old-Twitter feel without sliding into the same toxicity and abuse problems?

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How might the reintroduction of politics and news on Threads reshape its competition with Bluesky over the next election cycle?

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If media spend is stable but shifting, which incumbents—legacy news networks or social platforms like X—are most vulnerable to Bluesky capturing their ad dollars?

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Transcript Preview

Kara Swisher

... Blue Sky's growth doesn't appear to be stopping, with the platform crossing more than 21 million users. Keeps adding a million users a day, while the Threads has five times more daily active users than Blue Sky ahead of the election. That lead has now been reduced to 1.5 times, according, according to SimilarWeb. So people are really using it. Meta, uh, now seems to be feeling the heat, introducing new features suddenly. Oh, competition brings innovation and copying, including custom feeds around topics or people, mimicking Blue Sky's capabilities. Adam Mosseri, the head of Instagram, seemed to downplay Blue Sky numbers, sharing that Threads has more than 50 million signups in November alone. Agreed. Threads had been seeing a million new users a day for the last three months. Agreed. But it's very exciting that a young... that a small little, little thing is doing really well. Um, Blue Sky's financials. Blue Sky was initially launched as a spinoff of Twitter under Jack Dorsey. The company has since cut ties with him. Th- that was interesting, kicked his ass out. Now majority owned by its employees. So, uh, talk about the surge first, Scott, and then I'll talk a little bit more about the financials. I've been contacted by so many very wealthy people about investing in this thing, and very big names that... people I like, actually, um, who are meeting with them and talking to them. So thoughts, very... first on this surge, and then I'll get to the, um, investment soon.

Scott Galloway

You know more about this than I do. I just got on. It's the hottest new product introduction, and I know that it's not... it didn't happen in 2024, but this is the hottest new product in tech right now, no doubt. Uh, its user base has gone from 30... 13 million to 23 million in just two weeks. Its usage, its daily active usage, is now greater than Threads. This is the hottest product in tech right now. And what I would ask you, I flip it back to you, and is that... and it's one simple question, why?

Kara Swisher

Uh, well, you know, I think it's fun. It's actually fun. And, uh, look, I don't think you have to necessarily choose. I like both. I really do like Threads. Uh, I, I'd say... when Amanda was joking about it, she said, um, "Blue Sky is like the coolest bar you've ever been to, and why are you over at The Cheesecake Factory?" And I'm like, "The cheesecake is delicious." Like (laughs) , uh, you know, I think that's probably right, a good metaphor. Um, I, I li-... it's better for mar-... Threads is better for marketing my stuff, honestly, and actually has a nice vibe too, and it's a little more like Instagram with text. You know, like you... I can see... like, I don't find the really funny videos that I like. Uh, I, I find them on Threads much more. Like, I know it sounds dumb, chopping up food in creative ways or doing kind of cool karate moves or there's one I just pushed where a guy... let me look at it on Threads, um, at the top of my feed. Um, it's a guy who... mastering the art of camouflage to disappear in any setting. He's an artist who camouflages and then stands in front of things. I wouldn't have found that on Blue Sky. I would be uncool. So I'm fine with that, but I do like it. They're much funnier people. They are assembling a news-forward group of people, lot of journalists, a lot of Pauls are coming over. They're replicating that part of Twitter, the news feeling, and that's something that Threads had pushed away from, which is now... they're now moving back, letting people choose politics if they want, like politics and news. They were very much against it, and so you... days later you'd see things that happened days before. So I think Blue Sky has grabbed that, and I think that's why they're doing well, because some people like news out of these things. Some people like entertainment out of them. And so, um, I think... an- and it's a... it feels, it feels like old Twitter, but not in a toxic way. I don't think it's an echo chamber. By the way, guess who's building the echo chamber? Elon Musk is building an echo chamber over on, uh, over on his service, and to pretend otherwise is ridiculous. I mean, one of the stories that just came out is that how he's, he's, he's minimizing, um, uh, links to news, so... links to, uh, stories so that people don't get to see them. He's creating an echo chamber too, and that's what some of these things are. But I like them both. I like them both. So, uh, let me ask you about the money part though. Um, they've raised $15 million in Series A funding back in October, and then there's already interest, uh, in a new investment round. I... again, I've heard from lots of people. The CEO has said the platform is billionaire-proof because it's not one centralized feed of content. It's a protocol from which endless feeds can be created. You can also take it with you. And again, this echo chamber, I don't, uh, I think it's a nothing burger, but t- talk about h- why you would or would not invest in this.

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