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Adam Fisher: Why Small Markets are Better Than Big Markets | E1106

Whether you’re looking to sell your private company shares, or set up a liquidity program for your valued shareholders, you have to speak to the team at Hiive. Visit hiive.com/20vc, that is Hiive with two i’s - dot com slash 20vc, and see why they’re the fastest growing hub for secondaries in the world. ----------------------------------------------- Adam Fisher is a Partner @ Bessemer Venture Partners and one of the most successful investors in Israel over the last two decades with seed investments in Fiverr, Wix, Melio, HiBob and more. Adam has now made over 60 investments and has had an incredible 23 successful exits. Adam has now been in venture for over 27 years having started his career at Jerusalem Venture Partners in 1996. ----------------------------------------------- Timestamps: (00:00:00) Intro (00:00:54) Journey into the World of VC (00:02:57) Evolution of VC Industry (00:04:55) Speed and Decision-Making in VC (00:07:06) Second-Time Entrepreneurs' Key Insights (00:08:49) First vs. Second Time Founders (00:10:19) Insider vs. Outsider Market Entry (00:11:09) Innovation or Existing Markets (00:13:56) Contrarian Insights in Development (00:16:48) Managing Follow-On Funding as a Contrarian Investor (00:21:10) Founders’ Efficiency & Leadership (00:24:03) Navigating Market Size Strategies (00:27:00) Small Investments, Big Returns (00:31:30) Success Through Mistakes (00:35:29) Hiring Process (00:40:46) Why Founders Choose You (00:43:10) Price Sensitivity in Venture Investing (00:46:26) Best Founders & Funding Strategies (00:51:45) Choosing Capital Paths (00:57:28) Cracks in Founder-Investor Alignment (01:02:12) Timing and Liquidity in Investing (01:06:32) Honest & Fearless (01:09:44) Quick-Fire Round ----------------------------------------------- In Today’s Episode with Adam Fisher We Discuss: 1. Lessons from 27 Years in Venture Capital: How did Adam first make his way into the world of venture straight out of college? Does Adam agree with Doug Leone that VC has changed from a “boutique, high margin business to a commoditized, low margin industry”? What does Adam know now that he wishes he had known when he started in venture? 2. How to Pick Winners: 23 Exits in 60 Investments: To what extent does Adam think pattern recognition is a good thing? When is it bad? Does Adam prefer to invest in outsider founders approaching a problem with fresh eyes or insider founders who know the problem back to front? Why does Adam believe that “category creation is BS”? Why does Adam not like to invest in big, hugely ambitious markets? Why are smaller markets best? 3. The Deal: Mastering the Art of Negotiation and the Deal: How does Adam reflect on his own relationship to price? When doing an investment, does Adam think about who would do the next round? How important is ownership to Adam? Does he want it all on first check? Why does Adam not like to invest in hot AI rounds? What have been Adam’s single biggest investing mistakes? How did it change his approach? 4. Mastering the Art of Portfolio Management: Why does Adam believe that it is impossible to know which of your portfolio will be the breakout winners early on? How does Adam approach reserve allocations with this in mind? How does Adam know when is the right time to sell a position? What does Adam believe was the biggest sin of the zero interest rate environment period? ----------------------------------------------- Subscribe on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3j2KMcZTtgTNBKwtZBMHvl?si=85bc9196860e4466 Subscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-twenty-minute-vc-20vc-venture-capital-startup/id958230465 Follow Harry Stebbings on Twitter: https://twitter.com/HarryStebbings Follow Adam Fisher on Twitter: https://twitter.com/AdamRFisher Follow 20VC on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/20vchq Follow 20VC on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@20vc_tok Visit our Website: https://www.20vc.com Subscribe to our Newsletter: https://www.thetwentyminutevc.com/contact ---------------------------------------------- #harrystebbings #20vc #venturecapital #podcast #founder #AdamFisher #bessemer #bvp

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Jan 21, 20241h 17mWatch on YouTube ↗

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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Adam Fisher Explains Why Niche Markets Beat Hyper-Growth Moonshots In VC

  1. Adam Fisher, a long-time Bessemer partner and leading Israeli VC, describes his early serendipitous entry into venture and how the industry evolved from closed, paternalistic capital to open, founder-partner relationships.
  2. He argues that durable, big outcomes more often come from patient, efficient companies in smaller or niche markets, rather than hyper-ambitious, fast-burning category-creation plays in crowded spaces.
  3. Fisher dives into how he evaluates founders (first-time vs second-time, insiders vs outsiders), market size, fundraising dynamics, pricing, and reserves, emphasizing contrarian comfort with being the sole backer in an unfashionable market—while still ensuring future fundability.
  4. He also lays out his philosophy on hiring, exits, late-stage misalignments, and his public stance on Israeli politics, framing his role as the investor who knows all the wrong ways to do things and serves as a lighthouse rather than a co-captain.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Smaller, under-the-radar markets can yield superior risk-adjusted returns.

Fisher prefers being the first or only serious player in a niche where competition is low and adjacent expansions are possible, rather than being a number two or three in a huge, crowded market where even second place often loses.

Speed-dating fundraising leads to bad, long-term ‘marriage’ decisions.

He criticizes the current norm of closing lead checks in days, arguing that his worst investments were those done fastest under competitive pressure; deep mutual diligence over months produces better decade-long board partnerships.

Founder efficiency and real risk-taking matter more than early KPIs.

He looks for signs like founders quitting jobs, self-funding, making the first sales themselves, and learning quickly between meetings, seeing this mindset as a more reliable signal than seed-stage metrics.

Outsider, even naive, founders can outperform insiders—if self-aware.

Fisher likes outsiders who don’t know all the ‘impossibilities’, bringing fresh thinking and innovation, provided they recognize what they don’t know and have the charisma to persuade employees, investors, and customers.

Category creation is usually a retrospective label, not an upfront strategy.

He cautions against starting with “we’re creating a category” and instead focuses on discovering new buyers or segments; only later, if many players move in a similar direction, does a true category emerge.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

I don’t think the way you build a big company is by investing in the most ambitious companies growing the fastest. Those are also the companies that crash and burn.

Adam Fisher

I’m the other type of investor. I say, ‘Oh no, there’s already competition and there’s not even a market.’ I get comfortable when I think, ‘It’s only us, but if we’re right, we’re going to be the leader.’

Adam Fisher

Naivety is a strength in these cases. Insiders are just blinded by convention, by knowing a little bit too much of what hasn’t worked in the past.

Adam Fisher

It’s not because I know the right way. It’s ’cause I know all the wrong ways.

Adam Fisher

We’re not next to the captain shouting which way to go. We’re like the lighthouse. We just tell them where the rocks are so they don’t crash, but we actually don’t know how to get there.

Adam Fisher

Evolution of venture capital and founder–VC relationshipsEvaluating first-time vs second-time and insider vs outsider foundersSmall/niche markets vs large TAM and category creationFundraising dynamics: speed, storytelling, efficiency, and valuation disciplineCompetition, contrarian investing, and pattern recognitionHiring senior talent and matching to founder style and company stageExit timing, late-stage misalignments, and capital concentration vs risk aversionPublic advocacy, Israel’s tech ecosystem, and geopolitical concerns

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