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Anthropic Buys Compute From Elon & Commits $200BN to Google | Cerebras IPO | Ramp Raises at $40BN

Jason Lemkin is one of the leading SaaS investors of the last decade with a portfolio including the likes of Algolia, Talkdesk, Owner, RevenueCat, Saleloft and more. Rory O’Driscoll is a General Partner @ Scale where he has led investments in category leaders such as Bill.com (BILL), Box (BOX), DocuSign (DOCU), and WalkMe (WKME), among others. ----------------------------------------------- Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:25 Anthropic freezes secondary sales, requiring board approval for all transfers 06:55 Why Anthropic is buying capacity from Elon Musk 12:21 Anthropic's massive $200B revenue commit to Google 16:03 Goldman Sachs predicts a 24x surge in token consumption driven by agents 27:46 Will AI labs eat the app layer? The threat to Legal and CX verticals 37:10 SaaS public markets: HubSpot tanks 18% while Monday.com finds its footing 41:47 Growth theft: How Clay is commoditizing ZoomInfo's data business 46:31 Cerebras prices IPO at $150–$160 with a $48B market cap 52:10 Real Venture Capital: Celebrating the early bets by Foundation and Benchmark 58:05 Ramp's valuation vs the Chapter 7 collapse of e-commerce card Parker 01:09:15 Success and Sacrifice: Is mental health the price of building a $20B company? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subscribe on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3j2KMcZ... Subscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Follow Harry Stebbings on X: https://x.com/harrystebbings Follow Jason Lemkin on X: https://x.com/jasonlk Follow Rory O’Driscoll on X: https://x.com/rodriscoll Follow 20VC on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/20vchq Follow 20VC on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@20vc_tok Visit our Website: https://www.20vc.com Subscribe to our Newsletter: https://www.thetwentyminutevc.com/con... ----------------------------------------------- Legal Disclaimer: The content of this podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Any discussion of stocks, public markets, or investment strategies reflects the personal opinions of the speakers and should not be relied upon when making investment decisions. Figures, valuations, and financial data referenced may be estimates or subject to error. Always consult a qualified financial adviser before making any investment decision. The views expressed are those of the individual speakers and do not represent the views of 20VC or its affiliates. ----------------------------------------------- #20vc #harrystebbings #roryodriscoll #jasonlemkin #anthropic #xai #elonmusk #google #cerebrasipo #ramp

Jason LemkinguestHarry StebbingshostRory O’Driscollguest
May 14, 20261h 19mWatch on YouTube ↗

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May 14, 2026
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1h 19m
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The Twenty Minute VC
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Jason Lemkin is one of the leading SaaS investors of the last decade with a portfolio including the likes of Algolia, Talkdesk, Owner, RevenueCat, Saleloft and more. Rory O’Driscoll is a General Partner @ Scale where he has led investments in category leaders such as Bill.com (BILL), Box (BOX), DocuSign (DOCU), and WalkMe (WKME), among others. ----------------------------------------------- Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:25 Anthropic freezes secondary sales, requiring board approval for all transfers 06:55 Why Anthropic is buying capacity from Elon Musk 12:21 Anthropic's massive $200B revenue commit to Google 16:03 Goldman Sachs predicts a 24x surge in token consumption driven by agents 27:46 Will AI labs eat the app layer? The threat to Legal and CX verticals 37:10 SaaS public markets: HubSpot tanks 18% while Monday.com finds its footing 41:47 Growth theft: How Clay is commoditizing ZoomInfo's data business 46:31 Cerebras prices IPO at $150–$160 with a $48B market cap 52:10 Real Venture Capital: Celebrating the early bets by Foundation and Benchmark 58:05 Ramp's valuation vs the Chapter 7 collapse of e-commerce card Parker 01:09:15 Success and Sacrifice: Is mental health the price of building a $20B company? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subscribe on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3j2KMcZ... Subscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Follow Harry Stebbings on X: https://x.com/harrystebbings Follow Jason Lemkin on X: https://x.com/jasonlk Follow Rory O’Driscoll on X: https://x.com/rodriscoll Follow 20VC on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/20vchq Follow 20VC on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@20vc_tok Visit our Website: https://www.20vc.com Subscribe to our Newsletter: https://www.thetwentyminutevc.com/con... ----------------------------------------------- Legal Disclaimer: The content of this podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Any discussion of stocks, public markets, or investment strategies reflects the personal opinions of the speakers and should not be relied upon when making investment decisions. Figures, valuations, and financial data referenced may be estimates or subject to error. Always consult a qualified financial adviser before making any investment decision. The views expressed are those of the individual speakers and do not represent the views of 20VC or its affiliates. ----------------------------------------------- #20vc #harrystebbings #roryodriscoll #jasonlemkin #anthropic #xai #elonmusk #google #cerebrasipo #ramp

SPEAKERS

  • Jason Lemkin

    guest

    Founder of SaaStr and B2B SaaS operator/investor known for scaling and advising SaaS companies.

  • Harry Stebbings

    host

    Founder of 20VC and podcast host covering venture capital and technology.

  • Rory O’Driscoll

    guest

    Venture investor focused on technology and public/private market analysis.

EPISODE SUMMARY

In this episode of The Twenty Minute VC, featuring Jason Lemkin and Harry Stebbings, Anthropic Buys Compute From Elon & Commits $200BN to Google | Cerebras IPO | Ramp Raises at $40BN explores anthropic’s compute landgrab, agents’ token boom, and market repricing collide now Anthropic tightened control over secondary share transfers, aiming to clean up cap-table risk from informal economic-rights deals as it moves toward IPO readiness.

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