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Brian Tolkin, Head of Product @Opendoor: How to Hire the Best Product Teams | E1257

Brian Tolkin is the Head of Product @ Opendoor where he has spent the last 6 years and is responsible for product strategy and product and design teams. Before Opendoor, Brian spent an incredible 5 years at Uber through their wildest growth periods. ---------------------------------------------- In Today’s Episode We Discuss: (00:00) Intro (00:44) Lessons from Launching Uber China Pool (04:18) Worst Product Decision at Uber (05:55) How AI is Changing the Role of Product Managers (08:15) How AI is Transforming Product Development (11:55) Balancing Growth vs. Technical Debt at Series A (13:23) Should the CEO Also Be the CPO? (13:51) Lessons in Expanding from Single to Multi-Product (17:16) The Power of Simplification: Finding the Kernel of Truth (21:35) Are People Naturally Suited for Certain Company Stages? (23:34) Speed vs. Taste: What Matters More in Product Development? (28:07) Dictatorial Product Leadership vs. Collaborative Decision-Making (32:32) Lessons from Hiring Mistakes (36:54) The Best Backgrounds for Hiring Great PMs (40:24) Managing Momentum as a Product Leader (41:39) The Case for Staying Longer at One Company (43:13) Quick-Fire Round ---------------------------------------------- Subscribe on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3j2KMcZTtgTNBKwtZBMHvl?si=85bc9196860e4466 Subscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-twenty-minute-vc-20vc-venture-capital-startup/id958230465 Follow Harry Stebbings on Twitter: https://twitter.com/HarryStebbings Follow Brian Tolkin on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BrianTolkin Follow 20VC on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/20vchq Follow 20VC on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@20vc_tok Visit our Website: https://www.20vc.com Subscribe to our Newsletter: https://www.thetwentyminutevc.com/contact ----------------------------------------------- #20vc #harrystebbings #briantolkin #uber #venturecapital #product #hiring #headofproduct #startups #teambuilding

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Feb 6, 202546mWatch on YouTube ↗

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Brian Tolkin Reveals How To Build, Prioritize, And Hire Product Teams

Brian Tolkin, Head of Product at Opendoor and former Uber product leader, discusses his biggest product wins and mistakes, notably UberPool’s upfront pricing and missteps in defaulting users into Pool. He explains how AI is collapsing traditional product-development workflows while leaving core PM skills—customer understanding, problem definition, and business alignment—unchanged.
Tolkin dives into prioritization frameworks, OKRs, and the trade-offs between speed, simplicity, and product quality, especially in high-velocity environments and operationally complex businesses like Uber and Opendoor.
He also explores how to scale from single to multi-product, manage tech debt versus growth, and why CEOs should act as CPOs early on. A large portion of the conversation focuses on hiring: what a ‘true product team’ looks like, how to match PMs to problems, and why longer tenures dramatically increase effectiveness.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Deeply understand underlying data and infrastructure before launching complex products.

Uber’s China launch exposed how weak mapping/routing data and complex road systems can undermine core value (good matches and price), showing that foundational data quality can make or break a product.

Never optimize business metrics by tricking users or overriding their intent.

Defaulting riders into UberPool boosted liquidity but violated user expectations; Tolkin now sees that as prioritizing business needs over user respect, a mistake he’s ‘deeply internalized.’

AI shrinks cycles and artifacts, but PM fundamentals stay constant.

PRDs may give way to rapid prototypes and shared tools, yet the hard part remains: synthesizing user input, data, and constraints into good decisions that work for the business.

Prioritization must be tied to time horizon and company stage.

Frameworks like impact–confidence–effort only work when matched to whether you’re in land-grab growth (optimize for survival and revenue now) or in a mature phase (where tech/experience debt pay-down becomes critical).

Go multi-product by sandboxing and leveraging existing advantages, not by weakening the core.

New products should use your unique assets (customers, capabilities, or geography) and be insulated enough that failure doesn’t damage the main product or experience.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

You have to earn the right to exist in the future, and paying down tech debt doesn’t pay the bills.

— Brian Tolkin

Good PMs have to do both: understand what works for the user and what works for the business.

— Brian Tolkin

You hire your strategy.

— Brian Tolkin

If you’re focused on everything, you’re not focused on anything.

— Brian Tolkin

Computers are deterministic. Humans in the real world are not.

— Brian Tolkin

Lessons from UberPool and launching products in complex markets (e.g., China)How AI changes product development tools and process but not PM fundamentalsPrioritization, OKRs, and balancing tech debt, speed, and product qualityTransitioning from single product to multi-product and avoiding core-product harmThe role of the CEO and product leadership at different company stagesHiring and structuring ‘true’ product teams and finding PM–team fitOperating in real-world, ops-heavy businesses vs pure software products

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