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Cathie Wood: Elon & Twitter; Why Facebook is a Value Stock Now; ARK's Performance | 20VC #949

Cathie Wood is the CEO & CIO @ ARK Invest, focusing solely on disruptive innovation, primarily in the public equity markets. ARK has become renowned for opening up its research and becoming a ‘sharing economy’ company in the asset management space. Prior to ARK, Cathie spent twelve years at AllianceBernstein as CIO of Global Thematic Strategies where she managed over $5 billion. Cathie joined Alliance Capital from Tupelo Capital Management, a hedge fund she co-founded, which managed $800 million in global thematic strategies. Prior to Tupelo Capital, she worked for 18 years with Jennison Associates LLC as Chief Economist, Portfolio Manager and Director. ---------------------------------------- Timestamps: 0:00 Who is Cathie Wood? 1:15 What are you running from and towards? 3:45 Lessons from the Bust of Tupelo 7:25 Is there too much money chasing too few deals? 10:35 How do you handle being down 80-90%? 15:03 When is the time to sell? 20:32 Views on Risk Management 23:33 Why hasn’t ARK had more outflows? 26:27 Why does ARK make its research public? 28:38 Why did ARK launch a venture fund? 33:07 How incentives work in a 0% carry fund 38:57 How do you win access to the best deals? 43:55 Capital Planning in an Open Evergreen Fund 46:50 The Risk of Investing with ARK 49:03 Cathie’s Favourite Book 49:36 Why Facebook is a Value Stock 50:55 Elon and Twitter 53:17 Best Investment Advice Cathie Ever Received 55:17 Where would you put all your money? 56:22 Future of ARK ---------------------------------------- In Today’s Episode with Cathie Wood We Discuss: 1.) Entry into Hedge Funds at 20: How did Cathie get her first role in the world of finance at the tender age of 20? What is Cathie running from? What is Cathie running towards? What are some of Cathie’s biggest lessons from seeing the dot com bust at Tupelo? What does Cathie know now that she wishes she had known when she started investing? 2.) Why Benchmarks and Passive Investing are Bad: Why does Cathie believe that benchmarks and indexes have become dangerous for consumers? Why does Cathie not believe what everyone else does regarding inflation? How much of the performance of large-cap tech stocks is tied to the growth of passive investing? Why does Cathie think the Fed is making a huge mistake? 3.) Time to Pick Companies: Why does Cathie believe that Facebook is emerging as an attractive value stock? How does Cathie believe Elon Musk and Jack Dorsey could build the largest universal wallet? If Cathie were to put all her money into one of their companies, what would it be? Why does Cathie believe Zoom is one of the most misunderstood companies? 4.) Why Venture: Why Now: Why did Cathie decide to do a venture fund with ARK now? Why did Cathie decide to do a no-carry structure with a higher management fee? How does that align incentives with investors? In venture, the asset chooses the capital, how does Cathie analyze why the best founders in the world will pick and work with ARK over other amazing VCs? What is the single biggest risk you are underwriting when investing in ARK’s venture fund? ---------------------------------------- Subscribe to the Podcast: https://www.thetwentyminutevc.com/cathie-wood/ Follow Harry Stebbings on Twitter: https://twitter.com/HarryStebbings Follow Cathie Wood on Twitter: https://twitter.com/CathieDWood Follow 20VC on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/20vc_reels Follow 20VC on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@20vc_tok ---------------------------------------- #CathieWood #ARKinvest #venturecapitalist #HarryStebbings #20VC

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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Cathie Wood Defends Disruptive Innovation, Active Investing, And ARK’s Future

  1. Cathie Wood discusses her journey in finance, her rejection of benchmark-driven passive investing, and why she believes disruptive innovation is massively underpriced in public markets. She explains ARK’s research-led, high-conviction approach, how they manage extreme volatility, and why concentration and continuous re-underwriting are core to their risk management. Wood outlines ARK’s new retail-focused venture/interval fund, its 0% carry structure, and how ARK aims to give non‑accredited investors access to private innovation usually reserved for institutions. She also shares her views on Tesla, Facebook/Meta as a value stock, Elon Musk’s Twitter acquisition, and her long-term vision for ARK as both an innovation investor and global education platform.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

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Disruptive innovation is underrepresented and mispriced in benchmark-driven portfolios.

Wood argues that decades of flows into passive indices have overinflated large-cap benchmarks while leaving many non-index innovative companies down 80–90%, creating what she sees as a structural opportunity for active, innovation-focused investors.

Risk management at ARK is driven by concentration and explicit hurdle rates, not diversification by benchmark.

ARK requires a minimum 15% expected annualized return over five years; when a stock falls below that on their models (e.g., NVIDIA in 2021), they sell and concentrate capital into their highest-conviction names, shrinking ARKK from ~58 to low‑30s holdings.

Volatility is accepted as the price of long-term exposure to breakthrough technologies.

Wood maintains conviction through deep, ongoing research; when prices collapse but fundamentals and theses hold, ARK averages down and treats drawdowns as raising future return potential rather than invalidating their approach.

Sharing research openly can be a strategic advantage, not a weakness.

In an era of ubiquitous information, ARK publishes its work in real time on social media; this builds investor understanding, helps battle-test assumptions publicly, and has supported unusually strong asset retention despite steep drawdowns.

Retail investors should have structured access to private innovation, not just institutions.

The new interval/crossover fund is designed specifically for non‑accredited investors, with no carry and daily NAV, reflecting Wood’s belief that knowledge—not income thresholds—should define who can participate in high-growth private markets.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

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We are not a generalist strategy. We’re focused exclusively on a slice of the market, and that slice is truly disruptive innovation.

Cathie Wood

If you don’t have a five-year investment time horizon, maybe we’re not right for you, because we are a very volatile strategy.

Cathie Wood

Information is ubiquitous. It’s how you put it together. In a few years, it will seem provincial for firms to say, ‘We don’t share our research because it’s our secret sauce.’

Cathie Wood

We believe today that truly disruptive innovation is priced at $7–8 trillion globally and is going to $210 trillion in the next eight to ten years.

Cathie Wood

Because of our structure, we want to be with companies from early stage to mega-cap—and we can.

Cathie Wood

Cathie Wood’s early career and philosophical break from traditional, benchmark-based asset managementCritique of passive/index investing and the underpricing of disruptive innovationARK’s portfolio construction, sell discipline, and approach to risk and volatilityPublic–private crossover investing and the launch of ARK’s retail-focused venture/interval fundFee structure, incentives, and talent alignment without carry in the new fundAccess to top-tier venture deals, secondaries, and evergreen fund designViews on Tesla, Facebook/Meta, Elon Musk’s Twitter acquisition, and the broader innovation landscape

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