David Tisch & Terrence Rohan: Biggest Misconceptions & Hardest Truths About Seed Investing | E1112

ℹ️ EPISODE INFO

Released

February 5, 2024

Duration

1h 38m

Channel

The Twenty Minute VC

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📝 EPISODE DESCRIPTION

Stay on top of the private market with free access to volumes of real time market data and enjoy Hiive’s automated trading experience. With thousands of trades across hundreds of unicorns, Hiive is the fastest growing pre-IPO marketplace in the world. Create a free account today at hiive.com/20vc and see why over a thousand institutions and 10,000 accredited investors have joined Hiive. ----------------------------------------------- David Tisch is the Managing Partner of BoxGroup, one of the leading seed-stage investment firms of the last decade having invested in over 500 seed-stage startups, including Plaid, Ro, Ramp, PillPack, Amplitude, Stripe, Warby Parker, Harry’s, Flexport, Classpass, Airtable and more. Terrence Rohan is the Managing Director @ Otherwise Fund, a fund that discretely empowers a network of today’s top founders to make multi-stage venture investments. Terrence has invested in the likes of Figma, Hugging Face, Vanta, Notion and Robinhood to name a few. ----------------------------------------------- Timestamps: (0:00) Intro (00:53) Guest Introductions (04:19) Winning the Best Founders (13:52) Disrupting the Seed Market (18:54) Venture Capital's Evolution (28:37) Seed Investing Myths (35:11) Closing Long Commitment Deals (01:04:01) Cashing Out vs. Staying Invested (01:05:22) Staying Relevant in Investing (01:09:18) Quick-Fire Round ----------------------------------------------- In Today’s Seed Investing Special We Discuss:

1. Is Seed Investing Now a Commoditised Asset Class: Why does Dave Tisch believe seed investing will remain the most inefficient market? What does that mean for the future of returns at seed? Why should you always pay up and be price-insensitive at seed rounds? Why does David believe that no one is great at seed investing? Why does David believe that you cannot index the seed market?

1. The Biggest BS Elements of Venture Capital: Signaling: Why does David believe that the theory of signaling is total BS? Why does Terrence disagree and think it is valid and common? Group Decision-Making: Why does Terrence believe that investing decisions should be made solo and groups merely encourage consensus decision-making? Reserves: Why does Terrence believe reserves hurt DPI and are not good? How does David respond given his growth fund? Venture Value Add: Why do David and Terrence think venture value add services platforms are BS and not worth it?

1. The World of LPs: What is the single biggest misalignment between VCs and LPs? What are David and Terrence’s biggest pieces of advice for emerging managers today? Should LPs expect depressed returns from venture as the asset class commoditises? ----------------------------------------------- Subscribe on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3j2KMcZTtgTNBKwtZBMHvl?si=85bc9196860e4466 Subscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-twenty-minute-vc-20vc-venture-capital-startup/id958230465 Follow Harry Stebbings on Twitter: https://twitter.com/HarryStebbings Follow Terrence Rohan on Twitter: https://twitter.com/tmrohan Follow David Tisch on Twitter: https://twitter.com/davidtisch Follow 20VC on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/20vchq Follow 20VC on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@20vc_tok Visit our Website: https://www.20vc.com Subscribe to our Newsletter: https://www.thetwentyminutevc.com/contact ----------------------------------------------- #harrystebbings #20vc #venturecapital #business #startup #podcast #vc #DavidTisch #TerrenceRohan #boxgroup #otherwisefund

🎤 SPEAKERS

• David Tisch

  guest

• Terrence Rohan

  guest

• Harry Stebbings

  host

🧾 EPISODE SUMMARY

In this episode of The Twenty Minute VC, featuring David Tisch and Terrence Rohan, David Tisch & Terrence Rohan: Biggest Misconceptions & Hardest Truths About Seed Investing | E1112 explores seed Investing’s Messy Truth: Gut Decisions, Human Relationships, Not Spreadsheets David Tisch (BoxGroup) and Terrence Rohan (Otherwise) unpack how seed investing really works, arguing it’s fundamentally a human, intuition‑driven business rather than a data or “value‑add” arms race.

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