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GoPuff CEO Rafael Ilishayev: The Plan to Make GoPuff Profitable by 2024 | 20VC #944

Raf Illishayev is the Co-Founder and CEO @ GoPuff, one of the market leaders delivering daily essentials in minutes. GoPuff’s latest funding round priced the company at a reported $8.9Bn in March 2021 and to date, Rafael has raised over $2.4Bn for the company from the likes of Accel, Softbank, Fidelity, Baillie Gifford, D1 Capital and more. Rafael has scaled the company to over 1/3 of the US with over 12,000 employees nationwide. ------------------------------------ Timestamps: 0:00 Founding moment for GoPuff 1:54 Why has capital dried up for instant delivery? 6:42 How do margins compare between old and new markets? 8:54 The race to profitability 13:07 How do you prioritize which products to persue? 15:40 Challenges to the instant delivery market 19:28 How does batching change the economics? 22:14 What is the north-star metric of instant delivery? 24:37 How do you know when you have a retained user? 30:15 Pricing of GoPuff membership 32:15 Consumer behavior in a downturn 34:22 Why did you pull out of Spain? 38:35 Could this recession be good for you? 40:58 Is this an acquisition opportunity for you? 43:18 What does Instant Delivery look like in 2-3 years? 45:13 Amazon is the competition we admire 46:40 What new GoPuff verticle will perform best in next 2-3 years? 51:35 What gets harder and what gets easier with scale? 52:25 What do you know now that you wish you knew at the start? 53:30 Who is your closest mentor? 54:38 Where will GoPuff be in 5 years? ------------------------------------ In Today’s Episode with GoPuff’s Rafael Ilishayev You Will Learn: 1.) From Student to Global CEO: How Raf came up with the idea for GoPuff and started the company as a student with no funding? What were the early signs of product-market fit that Raf observed in the early days? In hindsight, does Raf wish they had raised external funding sooner than they did? What would raising external funding sooner have changed about the way they run the business? 2.) The Rise and Fall of Quick Commerce: What are the core drivers that have led to capital drying up for players in the quick commerce space? With the changing environment, is it a race to profitability for all providers in the space? Is this the perfect time for GoPuff to acquire? What are the characteristics of businesses in the space that GoPuff would vs would not like to acquire? How does Raf see the quick commerce space looking in 5 years time? 3.) Getting to Profitability: The Levers That Matter: Customer Service: Why does Raf believe that all players pulling back on investing in customer service are making a massive mistake? What can be done instead? Delivery Time: Why does Raf believe the 10-minute delivery model is fundamentally unprofitable? How do GoPuff approach it as a result? Inventory: With a changing macro-environment, why does Raf believe it is prudent to focus more attention on alcohol and convenience goods? What do prior recessions show us about consumer spending patterns changing? Metrics: What are the single most important metrics which dictate the speed of getting to profitability? Why is the amount of orders a driver can deliver per hour the most important metric? 4.) Business Expansion Opportunities: How does Raf analyze the opportunity for GoPuff in Europe? Why does Raf believe they should have pulled out of Spain much sooner? Why are they so focused on the UK now? Why does Raf believe it is the right decision to stop investing in GoPuff pharmacy? Why is Raf so bullish on GoPuff kitchens? How does the unit economics of the kitchens compare to the core business for GoPuff? What are the positive effects of kitchens on GoPuff core product? What was the most recent disagreement the board has had when it comes to determining what to prioritize vs what not to? ------------------------------------ Subscribe to the Podcast: https://www.thetwentyminutevc.com/gopuff/ Follow Harry Stebbings on Twitter: https://twitter.com/HarryStebbings/ Follow Kyle Harrison on Twitter: https://twitter.com/afaelilishayev/ Follow 20VC on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/20vc_reels Follow 20VC on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@20vc_tok ------------------------------------ #GoPuff #RafaelIlishayev #InstantDelivery #QuickCommerce #HarryStebbings #20VC #DeliveryWars

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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

GoPuff CEO Reveals Path to Profitability Amid Delivery Shakeout

GoPuff CEO Rafael Ilishayev explains how the company is shifting from aggressive expansion to a disciplined, self-funded model targeting profitability in 2024. He contrasts GoPuff’s “nail it then scale it” approach—deep focus on infrastructure, unit economics, and margins—with many instant-delivery rivals that prioritized rapid footprint growth over fundamentals.
Key levers include higher average order values, improved batching and routing to cut cost per order, disciplined market expansion, and fast-growing new lines like ads and GoPuff Kitchens. Rafael also details how customer behavior, subscription (FAM), and gamified loyalty drive retention and basket size.
The conversation explores mistakes (Spain, over-expansion, side bets like pharmacy), the impact of tighter capital markets, and why many competitors may not survive unless they become profitable quickly.
Looking ahead, he expects a smaller field of stronger players, with GoPuff aiming to be the undisputed leader in instant needs in the U.S. and a dominant, selective player globally.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Prioritize unit economics before aggressive geographic expansion.

GoPuff spent years perfecting technology, supply chain, and operations in a few markets before scaling, enabling strong margins and payback periods; peers who “scaled then nailed” are now struggling as capital tightens.

Batching and routing efficiency are make-or-break in instant delivery.

Improved order batching dramatically reduces cost per order by allowing fewer drivers to complete more deliveries per hour; in mature markets, better ODH (orders per driver per hour) can cut variable costs by up to ~50%.

Focus on order value and category breadth, not just speed.

Customers who buy from three or more categories in their first order spend about $600 more in the first year, and users value consistent ~30-minute deliveries over unsustainably fast 10–15 minute promises that kill batching economics.

Loyalty and subscriptions meaningfully change customer behavior.

GoPuff’s FAM subscription and gamified points system increase frequency, retention, and basket size; FAM penetration rose from 11% to 30% of orders in two quarters, and target steady-state is >55–60%.

Be ruthless about prioritization and saying no to “shiny” projects.

In a capital-constrained environment GoPuff cut or paused initiatives like pharmacy, slowed new building openings, and reduced kitchens rollout pace, focusing only on projects with clear near-term ROI and customer impact.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

You really need to nail it before you scale it.

— Rafael Ilishayev

If this business is done right, it’s actually not a low-margin business.

— Rafael Ilishayev

People don’t necessarily want a really fast delivery, they want a really consistent delivery.

— Rafael Ilishayev

Any company in any space that’s not thinking about profitability right now… there’s a higher chance than not these companies will probably not exist in the next year or year and a half.

— Rafael Ilishayev

Innovation is good, but innovation just for the sake of innovation is not good.

— Rafael Ilishayev

GoPuff’s origin story and early bootstrapped, profitable growthCapital market shift, industry shakeout, and the race to profitabilityUnit economics: margins, batching, routing, and cost per orderCustomer behavior, AOV, retention, and the FAM subscription/loyalty modelInternational strategy: lessons from Europe and exiting SpainNew business lines: ads, GoPuff Kitchens, and an unannounced major initiativeLeadership, prioritization, and decision-making under macro uncertainty

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