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Karri Saarinen is the Co-Founder and CEO of Linear. The company has raised from some of the best in the business including Sequoia and Accel. Before founding Linear, Karri was the principal designer at Airbnb and the founding designer at Coinbase. ----------------------------------------------- Timestamps: (00:00) Intro (02:50) Impact on Product Thinking From Airbnb & Coinbase (04:37) Brian Chesky or Brian Armstrong? (05:45) On Founder Mode (07:53) Quality Growth vs. Hypergrowth: What’s the Difference? (09:46) Is Hypergrowth Essential for Fundraising, Making Quality Growth a Luxury? (12:23) Monetizing Quickly with Feature Products vs. Long-Term Platform Approach (17:25) Does Karri Wish To Target Enterprise Earlier? (19:11) When Profitable, Why Raise a Series B and Dilute Further? (20:37) How Impactful is Having Sequoia for Hiring? (24:22) Should Founders Have a Board from Seed or A? (28:32) Which Investor Karri Most Wants to Work With? (29:30) “Giving VCs Homework” (32:08) Hiring (36:48) Where Karri Feels Insecure in CEO Role Today (37:54) How Has Becoming a Father Shaped Karri’s Leadership (38:47) Angel Investing as a Founder (40:12) Quick-Fire Round ----------------------------------------------- 10 Lessons with One of Silicon Valley’s Most In-Demand Founders: 1. How to Become a Master Fundraiser: Why does Karri believe it is BS advice that founders should “always be raising”? What is Karri’s biggest advice to founders on minimising dilution? What do most founders think they know about fundraising but do not? What is the best way to put your VCs to work? How can you give them homework to do? What has been the single best VC meeting Karri has had? What has been the worst VC meeting? 2. Product and Growth: What does Karri mean when he says “founder must focus on quality growth over hypergrowth?” How does Karri advise founders on how soon to release and monetise their first product? Wait for platform ready or ship more feature products and monetise? What have been the single biggest product lessons for Karri from Airbnb and Coinbase? What are the most commons ways that growth plateaus? What breaks first? 3. Karri AMA: Brian Armstrong or Brian Chesky; who would you invest in first? Would you sell Linear today for $3BN in cash? What do you know now that you wish you had known when you started? What did you believe that you now no longer believe? ----------------------------------------------- Subscribe on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3j2KMcZTtgTNBKwtZBMHvl?si=85bc9196860e4466 Subscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-twenty-minute-vc-20vc-venture-capital-startup/id958230465 Follow Harry Stebbings on Twitter: https://twitter.com/HarryStebbings Follow Karri Saarinen on Twitter: https://twitter.com/karrisaarinen Follow 20VC on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/20vchq Follow 20VC on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@20vc_tok Visit our Website: https://www.20vc.com Subscribe to our Newsletter: https://www.thetwentyminutevc.com/contact ----------------------------------------------- #20vc #harrystebbings #kaarisaarinen #linear #venturecapital #ceo #founder #fundraising #airbnb #coinbase #foundermode #hiring

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Oct 29, 202451mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Karri Saarinen on quality growth, dilution discipline, and real PMF

  1. Karri Saarinen, co-founder and CEO of Linear, explains how he builds a highly efficient, product-led SaaS company in contrast to the hypergrowth-at-all-costs culture. He argues for “quality growth” rooted in product excellence, profitability, and tight focus on a narrow initial ICP, rather than paid acquisition and headcount bloat. Saarinen details his philosophy on fundraising (minimizing dilution, using rounds for signaling and safety), when to build sales and enterprise motion, and how to select and work with investors. He also shares his views on hiring for craft, the realities of the CEO role, and why most startup advice about speed and hiring is dangerously misapplied.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Prioritize quality growth rooted in product pull, not paid push.

Saarinen contrasts “quality growth” (customers adopting Linear because it’s clearly better) with hypergrowth juiced by ad spend or discounts; he warns that artificial growth is fragile, hard to unwind, and often unprofitable.

Design your business so you don’t need to raise again.

Rather than optimizing purely for the next round, he urges founders to consider profitability early, so they’re not hostage to investor benchmarks and can choose if and when to raise.

Minimize dilution and avoid valuation traps.

He targets roughly 10% or less dilution per round and avoids stretching for the highest possible valuation to reduce down-round risk and maintain investor engagement and morale.

Start with a narrow ICP and expand out, not in.

Founders should pick a focused use case or niche, build something exceptional for a small group who truly care and pay, then extend to broader markets, instead of broad pre-launch ICPs that resonate with no one.

Hire slowly for craft and impact, especially in early and upstream roles.

He prefers very small, elite teams and looks for candidates who deeply care about their craft; early or upstream hires (first marketer, first engineer, product leaders) set long-term standards and shouldn’t be rushed just to fill a seat.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

The only real protection you can have as a startup founder in your business is to be successful.

Karri Saarinen

I’ve never been happy with a 20% dilution. I would rather see it at 10% or less.

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Quality growth means the growth is based on something real that is working in the company, not something that is overly artificially juiced.

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You shouldn’t try to boil the ocean. You need to just boil the pot and get someone in the pot and cook with them.

Karri Saarinen

I think the smallest teams always made the best results.

Karri Saarinen

Quality growth vs. hypergrowth and artificial growth hacksProfitability, capital efficiency, and minimizing founder dilutionFundraising strategy, investor selection, and board dynamicsProduct focus, narrow ICPs, and evolving toward enterpriseHiring philosophy, evaluating craft, and avoiding leadership mis-hiresFounder role, insecurity, and “founder mode” vs. delegationRemote culture, competition with incumbents, and product quality obsession

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