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Mike Maples is one of the OG seed investors of the last two decades. As a co-founding Partner at Floodgate, Mike has been on the Forbes Midas List eight times in the last decade. Some of Mike’s investments include Twitter, Twitch.tv, Clover Health, Okta, Outreach, Chegg, Demandforce, and Applied Intuition. ---------------------------------------------- Timestamps: (00:00) Intro (00:57) Is a Sub-$100M Seed Fund Viable Today? (05:39) Why Lose Asymmetric Information When Picking Winners? (11:13) Should Every Check Be a Potential Fund Returner? (17:42) Mike’s View on Inception Rounds in AI? (23:43 On Mike’s Best Deals (27:12) Deciding the Right Time to Sell (29:50) Is Asset Pricing Efficient Amid AI Hype? (32:38) How Psychology Shifts When You’re Profitable (36:56) Structured Salary Liquidity or Case-by-Case (37:55) Any Regrets on Passing Airbnb? (40:37) How Mike Identifies Hidden Insights? (45:34) Biggest Weakness in Analyzing Founders (49:21) Are Growth Investors Misjudging the Efficiency of Capital? (51:56) Is Success Possible Without Product-Market Fit? (54:39) 2024 Review (01:00:06) Predictions for 2025 (01:08:54) Quick-Fire Round ----------------------------------------------- In Today’s Episode with Mike Maples We Discuss: - Does Seed Even Make Sense as an Asset Class? - Fund Size and Strategy: How to Do a 10x Fund? - The Power Law in Venture Capital - Follow-On Investments: Are they BS? - Finding Inefficiencies in the Market - Exit Strategies and Liquidity Events: When to Sell? - How Floodgate Lost Billions Missing Airbnb and Pinterest - 3 Frameworks for Evaluating Startups - Case Studies: Zoom and Okta - How to Truly Analyse Product-Market Fit - Challenges with Overfunding Startups - 2024 in Review: Company and Fund of the Year - Predictions for 2025 ----------------------------------------------- Subscribe on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3j2KMcZTtgTNBKwtZBMHvl?si=85bc9196860e4466 Subscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-twenty-minute-vc-20vc-venture-capital-startup/id958230465 Follow Harry Stebbings on Twitter: https://twitter.com/HarryStebbings Follow Mike Maples Jr. on Twitter: https://twitter.com/m2jr Follow 20VC on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/20vchq Follow 20VC on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@20vc_tok Visit our Website: https://www.20vc.com Subscribe to our Newsletter: https://www.thetwentyminutevc.com/contact ----------------------------------------------- #20vc #harrystebbings #mikemaplesjr #floodgate #seedround #venturecapital #zoom #okta #startups

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Jan 5, 20251h 15mWatch on YouTube ↗

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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Mike Maples Explains How Seed VCs Really Win, Not Just Invest

  1. Mike Maples unpacks how fund size, power laws, and disciplined follow-on strategies define whether a seed fund can actually perform, not just participate. He argues that every first check must have a credible path to 100x, which forces ruthless selectivity on price, founder quality, and market inflection. Maples introduces three main frameworks—insight, inflection, and founder future fit—to evaluate startups, and stresses temperament, patience, and avoiding overcapitalization before true product‑market fit. He also discusses selling discipline, market cycles, AI and Bitcoin opportunities, and broader philosophical influences from Buffett, Munger, Marks, and even Christian ethics on how he invests and lives.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Fund size is your strategy because power laws set the bar.

With ~25 companies per fund, one investment typically must return ~64% of all profits; a larger fund mechanically raises the size of exits you need, so you must align check size, ownership, and valuation with that constraint.

Design follow-on strategy as offense, not reflexive support.

Pro rata is a right, not an obligation; Maples dedicates a partner solely accountable for follow-on returns and largely indexes follow-ons to where the very best later-stage firms invest, instead of rescuing weak companies or over‑trusting his own insider bias.

Every first check must have a credible 100x path.

He underwrites new deals by asking, “What must be true for this to be a 100x on the first check?” and uses that to bound acceptable entry prices and avoid ‘efficient market’ seed investing that can’t mathematically produce top‑tier fund outcomes.

Use the seed round to prove your non-consensus insight, not to ‘run the business.’

The ideal seed round is the minimum capital and time required to validate a core insight and remove the largest risk; raising $4–5M simply to hit a standard 20% dilution target often leads to waste, distraction, and poor product‑market fit discipline.

Founder future fit is often the strongest early signal.

Rather than CV prestige, he looks for founders already ‘living in the future’ of their market (e.g., Okta, Zoom, Netscape), whose domain immersion makes them likeliest to see what’s missing, build the right product, and credibly attract early believers.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

Our business is hard, but not complicated: 5% of our checks need to be 100x on the first check, and 10–15% need to be 20x.

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To the extent that seed investing is an efficient market, it’s not going to be a good business.

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You have to play the game that’s on the field, but you don’t have to play the way everybody else plays.

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If you’re not finding inefficiencies in the game, you ought to be asking yourself, ‘What am I doing? What am I in this for?’

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Almost every great startup is pursuing a future that’s meant to be, and there is usually one team that’s ideally suited to that future.

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Fund size as strategy and the power law in venture returnsFollow-on investing, pro rata, and using market signals from top firms100x mindset, pricing discipline, and seed round designThree core frameworks: insight, inflection, and founder future fitProduct-market fit, overfunding risk, and the dangers of growth-at-all-costsSelling discipline, exit price inefficiencies, and secondary liquidityPersonal philosophy: temperament, comparative advantage, and ethical foundations

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