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The Twenty Minute VCOrlando Bravo: Raising Kids as a Billionaire; VC vs PE; Is Warren Buffet Wrong? | 20VC #974
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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT
Billionaire Orlando Bravo On Pricing, Parenting, And Beating Market Cycles
- Orlando Bravo outlines how Thoma Bravo evolved into a software‑only private equity firm by buying undervalued, recurring‑revenue businesses after the dot‑com crash and rigorously focusing on future cash flows. He contrasts PE’s cash‑flow‑driven, price‑sensitive discipline with growth‑at‑any‑price venture investing, explaining how operational playbooks turn great innovators into 40% free‑cash‑flow companies.
- Bravo emphasizes the importance of mentors, measurement, and structural change via buyouts to reset incentives, strip out inefficiencies, and align management on profitable growth. He defends paying seemingly high prices for assets like Coupa and Anaplan by pointing out that outsiders don’t see the post‑deal operational plan or targeted margin expansion.
- Beyond investing, Bravo speaks candidly about his personal fears (stagnation, feeling trapped), his evolving relationship with money, raising driven children in a wealthy household, and sustaining a marriage while leading a demanding global firm. He also explores why philanthropy is harder than capitalism: there’s only cost, ambiguous impact, and no clear P&L to judge success.
IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING
5 ideasIn software, long‑term value is driven by future cash flows, not revenue multiples.
Bravo rejects valuing businesses on topline alone; Thoma Bravo underwrites every deal to specific year‑1–5 earnings and cash‑flow targets, adjusting only for cost of capital, not hype.
Operational discipline can turn innovators into 40% free‑cash‑flow machines.
By breaking big problems into measurable components, assigning clear ownership, and restructuring incentives post‑deal, Thoma Bravo systematically drives both high growth and high margins.
Price and downside protection matter far more in PE than in early‑stage VC.
With $10B‑scale equity checks, one large loss can cripple a fund and consume years of partner time, so PE firms must avoid overpaying and cannot “triage away” bad deals the way VCs can.
High‑quality, market‑leading assets justify larger funds—but not over‑diversification.
As software market leaders have grown, Thoma Bravo expanded fund size to buy them, yet deliberately keeps portfolios to ~12–15 companies per fund to stay genuinely hands‑on operationally.
Consensus and proximity to the asset anchor better investment decisions.
Bravo insists that at least a third of the management committee be in the trenches on each deal and requires unanimous support; dissent signals something fundamentally wrong in their focused model.
WORDS WORTH SAVING
5 quotesWe believe every company in the world is worth its future cash flows.
— Orlando Bravo
Any business problem can be solved. Health is another matter.
— Orlando Bravo, quoting mentor Marcel Bernard
Price matters.
— Orlando Bravo
If you have 40 or 50 companies, there is no way you have the time to really change them. Operationally, it’s impossible.
— Orlando Bravo
In capitalism, you are ruled by the P&L… In philanthropy, you only have cost.
— Orlando Bravo
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