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SpaceX Valued at $800BN & Harvey Raises $160M at an $8BN Price & Netflix Acquires Warner Brothers

Jason Lemkin is one of the leading SaaS investors of the last decade with a portfolio including the likes of Algolia, Talkdesk, Owner, RevenueCat, Saleloft and more. Rory O’Driscoll is a General Partner @ Scale where he has led investments in category leaders such as Bill.com (BILL), Box (BOX), DocuSign (DOCU), and WalkMe (WKME), among others. ----------------------------------------------- Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:38 SpaceX's $800 Billion Valuation: A Deep Dive 08:48 IPO Market Predictions for 2026 19:03 Netflix's Bold Move: Acquiring Warner Brothers 30:33 Tiger's New Fund Strategy 36:23 Databricks' Head of AI $500 Million Seed Round 40:19 Harvey Raises $160M at an $8BN Valuation 01:06:14 Chinese Open Source Models in US Startups 01:16:29 Airwallex Raises $330M at an $8BN Valuation 01:27:30 Prediction Markets and Insider Trading ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subscribe on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3j2KMcZ... Subscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Follow Harry Stebbings on X: https://x.com/harrystebbings Follow Jason Lemkin on X: https://x.com/jasonlk Follow Rory O’Driscoll on X: https://x.com/rodriscoll Follow 20VC on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/20vchq Follow 20VC on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@20vc_tok Visit our Website: https://www.20vc.com Subscribe to our Newsletter: https://www.thetwentyminutevc.com/con... ----------------------------------------------- #20vc #harrystebbings #roryodriscoll #jasonlemkin #ai #airwallex #spacex #netflix #ramp #keithrabois #harvey

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Dec 11, 20251h 35mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Sky-high valuations, IPO hopes, AI bubbles, and geopolitical risk collide

  1. SpaceX’s rumored $800B secondary valuation sparks skepticism about private-market pricing versus public-market reality, with participants arguing that valuation risk is now the primary risk in late-stage deals.
  2. The group expects a potential IPO resurgence in 2026–2027 driven by a few “power-law” giants (e.g., Anthropic, Databricks, possibly SpaceX/OpenAI), while noting that high private “high-water marks” can make IPOs psychologically and financially awkward.
  3. Netflix’s proposed $82.7B acquisition of Warner Brothers Discovery is framed as a tech-native distribution winner absorbing legacy media, with key deal uncertainty centered on regulators, politics, and Hollywood’s fear of buyer power over content creators.
  4. AI fundraising dynamics (e.g., a $500M “seed” and Harvey’s $160M at $8B) highlight frothy pricing, multi-tranche/step-up rounds, and the core question of whether rapid growth can persist before model shifts commoditize or obsolete app-layer businesses.
  5. Geopolitical and compliance concerns intensify as Chinese open-source models appear inside US startups and as Airwallex faces “China exposure” scrutiny, reinforcing the growing cost of globalized engineering/data footprints.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Late-stage investors are increasingly taking mostly valuation risk.

At very large valuations (SpaceX/Harvey-style rounds), operational and market risks can feel secondary to the possibility that the entry price exceeds eventual public-market clearing levels.

Private high-water marks can make IPO outcomes feel like “losses” even when they’re great exits.

If a company prices secondaries/rounds at extreme levels, an IPO at a lower market cap may still be a landmark liquidity event while frustrating the most recent private buyers and altering sentiment.

A few giant IPOs can ‘save’ venture liquidity math—if markets stay open.

They argue that one or two mega offerings (Anthropic/Databricks/SpaceX) could dwarf dozens of smaller IPOs, but this depends on macro stability and sustained growth rather than sudden deceleration.

Netflix’s edge is distribution and multiple arbitrage—legacy media is structurally outmatched.

Netflix can monetize content globally and often trades at a richer multiple, making large acquisitions potentially more accretive than for smaller challengers relying on leverage and financial engineering.

‘Seed’ no longer means early risk—brand-name founders can raise at enormous prices.

The Naveen/Databricks-AI example underscores that repeat founders can attract huge capital on credibility, while the true economics may be obscured by earlier cheaper tranches and headline valuation optics.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

Every time that private market valuations came into contact with public market valuations, private market valuations were found wanting. And money is a great truth serum.

Rory O’Driscoll

No one cares if they come out of a hot accelerator and raise at 50 to 60 on a bunch of safes with no rights and do a round at 30 later. They don't care.

Jason Lemkin

Netflix won. They ate the media industry.

Rory O’Driscoll

It is possible to lose money on a great company.

Rory O’Driscoll

If this growth is durable, okay, if we're seeing signs that it's durable, if it has the, if it really has 170% NRR and 98% logo retention and it's accelerating at 150, this is just the bet you do.

Jason Lemkin

SpaceX $800B secondary valuation and Elon premiumPrivate vs public valuation resets and down IPO normalizationIPO market outlook for 2026–2027 (Anthropic/Databricks/OpenAI)Netflix–Warner Brothers Discovery acquisition and regulatory riskTiger Global downsizing and concentrated fund strategyMega “seed” rounds and step-up/structured pricing opticsHarvey’s $8B valuation, AI app defensibility, and model riskLLM commoditization, multi-model routing, and revenue volatilityChinese open-source models usage and national-security/complianceAirwallex valuation discount vs Ramp and “Asia discount” debatePrediction markets, insider trading incentives, and regulation

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