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The Twenty Minute VCStevie Case: World's First Female Pro Gamer; Hiring Tips for Sales; PLG vs Enterprise | 20VC #970
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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT
From Pro Gamer to CRO: Stevie Case Redefines Modern Sales Leadership
- Stevie Case, now CRO at Vanta, shares her unconventional journey from Kansas kid and the world’s first female pro gamer to senior sales leadership at Twilio and Vanta.
- She explains how gaming, product management, and single motherhood forged her grit, empathy, and mathematical, strategy-driven approach to revenue.
- The conversation dives into PLG versus enterprise sales, when and how to layer sales on top of self-serve, and how to build and compensate early sales teams.
- Case also addresses inclusive cultures for parents, value-based selling in a tougher macro environment, and why curiosity, grit, and authenticity now matter more than ever in sales.
IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING
5 ideasFounders must be the first sellers and storytellers before codifying a sales playbook.
Early sales is about vision and trust; the founder has to articulate the ‘why’ and prove value before handing it to a sales leader to turn into a repeatable process.
Don’t layer PLG and enterprise sales too early or without clear ownership.
Running both motions from day one often creates customer confusion and internal credit/comps fights; test sales on top of PLG iteratively and with dedicated resources and clear comp.
Start upmarket with focused experiments, not a full pivot.
Vanta inched from SMB into mid-market/enterprise by carving out a separate team, comp plan, and targets—proving the model before fully committing more resources.
Hire hunters with grit and curiosity over big-brand resumes.
In today’s environment you need people who open doors, endure adversity, and run deep discovery; candidates who over-index on guaranteed comp or order-taking usually fail in startups.
The first sales hire must be glued to the founder, not left alone.
They should join every call, hear investor and partner narratives, and learn to sound like a co‑founder; handing them a written ‘playbook’ and walking away is a common failure pattern.
WORDS WORTH SAVING
5 quotesYou can be competent and also just a flawed human being who is uncomfortable and unsure at times. If you can really embrace both of those things, that's the magic.
— Stevie Case
The best way to open people up is to give them comfort with your own vulnerability.
— Matt Golden (as quoted by Stevie Case)
At the end of the day, what you want out of a great comp plan is something so clear that if a salesperson reads it, they understand exactly what they should spend their time doing when you're not in front of them.
— Stevie Case
The first sales hire has to be able to speak as if they were a founder of the company.
— Stevie Case
We are no longer in a growth-at-all-costs world… everyone now has to be a hunter.
— Stevie Case
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