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Tom Hulme: Lessons from a 24x Angel Track Record, 275x on Robinhood & Making Billions on Uber |E1150

Tom Hulme is a Managing Partner of GV (Google Ventures), and leads the European team. Today, GV has over $10BN in AUM and Tom has led investments in Lemonade.com (IPO), Snyk, Secret Escapes, Blockchain.com, GoCardless, Blue Vision Labs (exited to Lyft), and Currency Cloud (exited to Visa). Prior to joining venture full-time, Tom was one of Europe’s most successful angel investors with a 5x DPI track record and 20x+ TVPI. ----------------------------------------------- Timestamps: (00:00) Intro (01:09) Background (03:14) Entry into Angel Investing (11:20) Tom’s Investment Results (17:10) Bad Investment Decisions as an Angel (20:51) Ideas vs. Execution (23:07) What's the Price Tag for Great Venture Investing? (25:19) Founders Investing as Angels (28:11) Tom’s Strengths & Weaknesses (33:23) Creating Environment & Culture (38:45) Liquidity Concerns Amid Shifting Investment Landscape (46:38) Potential in Foundation Models? (51:45) Sustainable Value in the Application Layer (01:00:00) Founder Perspective: Naivete vs Insider Knowledge (01:06:38) Remote vs In-Person Observations (01:09:53) Quick-Fire Round ----------------------------------------------- In Today’s Episode with Tom Hulme We Discuss: 1. Lessons from a 24x TVPI Angel Track Record: What are Tom’s biggest lessons from his biggest winners angel investing? What are Tom’s biggest takeaways from the 0’s in his angel track record? What is the biggest advice Tom would give to angel investors starting out today? What are the single biggest mistakes Tom sees angel investors make today? 2. The Four Pillars of Venture Capital: What does Tom believe are the four key components of being successful as a VC? Why does Tom describe VC as “being a founder on anti-depressants”? How does Tom categorise the three different types of investors that exist? Sourcing, selecting, servicing: What is Tom best at and what is he worst at? 3. The Conventional Wisdom in Venture That is Not True: Why does Tom believe it is BS that you should never sell your winners? Why does Tom believe he has never had complete conviction in any of the companies he invests in? Why does Tom believe the “everything has to be a fund returner mindset” is BS? Why naivety doesn’t lead to great founders? Why employees at rocketships are the best founders? 4. AI: Foundation Models, Generative AI, The Incumbents: Where Does the Value Go: Does Tom believe there is money to be made investing in foundation models? Why does Tom liken investing in foundation models to investing in power stations? Where does Tom believe there is value in the application layer? Why does Tom think that generative AI is largely a sustaining innovation? Why does Tom think Microsoft will win the next wave of AI? Who else is well-positioned? Why does Tom believe there is a correlation between those that fear monger around AGI and those that need funding for their businesses? ----------------------------------------------- Subscribe on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3j2KMcZTtgTNBKwtZBMHvl?si=85bc9196860e4466 Subscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-twenty-minute-vc-20vc-venture-capital-startup/id958230465 Follow Harry Stebbings on Twitter: https://twitter.com/HarryStebbings Follow Tom Hulme on Twitter: https://twitter.com/thulme Follow 20VC on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/20vchq Follow 20VC on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@20vc_tok Visit our Website: https://www.20vc.com Subscribe to our Newsletter: https://www.thetwentyminutevc.com/contact ----------------------------------------------- #20vc #harrystebbings #tomhulme #googleventures #ceo #founder #venturecapital #startup #partnership #hiring #angelinvesting #robinhood #uber #lessonslearned

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May 7, 20241h 17mWatch on YouTube ↗

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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Tom Hulme Dissects Venture Craft, Founder Psychology, and AI Hype Cycles

  1. Tom Hulme, GV general partner and prolific angel, unpacks how his early experiences, angel track record, and operating background shape his investing philosophy across sourcing, selection, and founder support.
  2. He contrasts “smart-smart” versus passive and dangerous investors, critiques overstructured and overcapitalized deals, and explains why angel follow-ons often destroy returns given our poor ability to predict winners.
  3. Hulme dives deep into portfolio construction, reserves, liquidity, fund-returner dogma, and the psychological traps of fear-driven investing, while emphasizing long-term compounding, honest pre‑mortems, and founder empathy.
  4. He also offers a skeptical but nuanced view on AI and foundation models, arguing most capital there will be lost, and closes with lessons on culture debt, remote work, clock speed, and how parenting reshaped his view of founders.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Avoid “dangerous” investors who are meddling but not truly value-add.

Hulme classifies investors as smart-active, passive, and dangerous (passive or dumb but convinced they’re smart). Founders, especially repeat founders, increasingly optimize for either truly exceptional partners or entirely passive capital to avoid destructive interference.

As an angel, following on can materially worsen your returns.

His pre‑2015 angel portfolio (~27 companies) returned ~4.5x DPI and ~24–25x TVPI, but he notes that large pro‑rata follow‑ons into later rounds—often alongside big VCs—frequently went to zero and would have dragged overall returns down.

Overcapitalization and aggressive structure often hurt companies more than “bad” investors.

He argues that foie‑gras‑style funding (too much too soon) drives premature scaling, higher burn, lower adaptability, and misalignment via complex preferences and notes that founders should optimize for options and terms, not just headline price.

VC edge is in fundamentals and compounding, not “hot” seeds.

Hulme’s biggest winners (e.g., GoCardless) were steady, fundamentals‑driven businesses that compounded for a decade, while several “hot” momentum stories (Fab, Jawbone) went to zero. He sees an inverse correlation between seed/Series A hype and ultimate success.

Most investors vastly overestimate their ability to predict winners and size outcomes.

He admits he would have mis‑ranked his own portfolio and uses this to argue against overconfident reserves models and fund-returner dogma, preferring diversified, consistent check sizing and scenario planning that emphasizes option value rather than precise forecasts.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

Venture capital is like being a founder on antidepressants. You basically have all of the highs, just not as high, all of the lows, just not as low.

— Tom Hulme

There are basically three types of investors… You need to avoid investors that are passive, or sometimes even dumb, but think they're smart and actually gonna kind of interfere.

— Tom Hulme

Being too early is tantamount to being wrong, unless you can survive long enough for the market to come to you.

— Tom Hulme

Ideas are cheap, execution is everything. I cannot invest based on an idea.

— Tom Hulme

Free kills feedback. You don't know if it's valued, and people don't value what they don't pay for.

— Tom Hulme

Types of investors and founder–investor fit (smart, passive, dangerous)Angel investing strategy, follow-ons, and inability to rank winners earlyDeal structure, overcapitalization, and misaligned incentives in ventureVC craft: the four S’s (sourcing, selecting, supporting, selling) and portfolio constructionLiquidity, secondaries, fund-returner myths, and fear in market cyclesAI and foundation models: economics, defensibility, and where value accruesCompany-building lessons: founder psychology, culture debt, remote vs in‑person, and speed of execution

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