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The Twenty Minute VCTorsten Reil, Helsing Founder: Raising $828M to Build the Defence Champion of Europe | E1237
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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT
Helsing’s Founder on AI Warfare, European Sovereignty, and Relentless Talent
- Torsten Reil, founder of Helsing and former founder of NaturalMotion, discusses building a European defense AI champion focused on software, autonomy, and drones amid rising geopolitical threats from Russia and China.
- He outlines Helsing’s operating philosophy: extreme talent density, small elite teams, aggressive performance management, and “Helsing speed” powered by substantial early capital and a willingness to blitzscale temporarily.
- Reil argues Europe faces a serious sovereignty and security gap, calling for higher defense spending, a mandatory 20% allocation of equipment budgets to new defense companies, and faster procurement reform to avoid a “Tesla moment” where legacy primes are disrupted by software-first players.
- He also dives into the ethics of autonomous weapons, the realities of war in Ukraine, the coming era of drone swarms and “precise mass,” and why founder ambition—not capital or regulation—is Europe’s real bottleneck.
IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING
5 ideasOptimize for extreme talent density, not headcount growth.
Reil insists that 3–4 exceptional people outperform and cost less than 8–10 good ones; Helsing relentlessly recruits top performers, pays above market, and actively manages out low performers to keep teams small, fast, and high leverage.
Make performance management a core founder job, not an HR afterthought.
Helsing runs quarterly performance calibration sessions across leaders, forces clear standards of “what good looks like,” and addresses mis-hires in the first months—avoiding the cultural drift Reil experienced at NaturalMotion.
Use blitzscaling as a temporary mode to gain strategic advantage.
Armed with an early €8.5m seed and then €100m from Daniel Ek, Helsing intentionally accepted short-term inefficiency—especially in hiring and infrastructure—to move fast, win major programs, and then normalize into a more efficient operating model.
In defense, aim for programs of record, not just innovation grants.
Reil stresses that small “innovation projects” (e.g., €500k pilots) are a trap; building a true defense prime requires the capability stack—security, compliance, export control, gov-relations—to win large, multi-year programs like the Eurofighter EW upgrade.
Software-first thinking can transform hardware categories like drones.
Helsing moved into strike drones only when it became clear no one in the West could produce cheap, scalable “precise mass”; by shifting complexity into software and using heavy simulation, they aim to simplify hardware and manufacture at large scale.
WORDS WORTH SAVING
5 quotesCapital isn’t the problem in Europe, ambition is.
— Torsten Reil
We’d rather have four exceptional people than eight good people.
— Torsten Reil
There is a big wave coming towards us, and it is autonomy and software in defense, and it’s unstoppable.
— Torsten Reil
The thing that we have to avoid is the Tesla moment for the defense sector.
— Torsten Reil
I’m pretty sick of people just commenting… The only thing that matters is if people actually do something.
— Torsten Reil
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