The Twenty Minute VCWill Open-Source Threaten Anthropic's Business & Do Margins Matter in a World of AI | Matt Murphy
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EPISODE INFO
- Released
- July 27, 2026
- Duration
- 1h 6m
- Channel
- The Twenty Minute VC
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EPISODE DESCRIPTION
Matt Murphy is a Partner at Menlo Ventures, who just raised $3 billion in fresh capital, its largest pool ever. Matt's portfolio includes Anthropic, Lovable, Legora, OpenRouter, Chai Discovery, Axiom, OpenEvidence and more. ----------------------------------------------- Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:21 How Menlo Got Into Anthropic 05:12 Ownership Doesn't Matter Anymore 07:25 When Does Price Actually Matter? 10:18 How Menlo Sized Up for the Second Anthropic Round 13:43 When to Take Money Off the Table 22:00 Why Menlo Raised Only $3B When They Could Have Raised Much More 29:41 OpenRouter: Why Matt Thinks It's Already a Beast 31:05 The Legora Investment: Is Anthropic a Threat? 34:33 Series A Is the Worst Insertion Point Right Now 37:18 The Barbell Strategy: Go Earlier and Go Bigger, Skip the Middle 43:25 Can a Great Seed Investor Also Be a Great Growth Investor? 54:59 Menlo's Anthropic Carry 56:33 Richer Investors Make Better Investors 1:01:29 Where Is AI Overheated? 1:02:40 Where Is AI Underinvested? 1:04:15 What Matt Is Most Excited About in the Next 10 Years ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subscribe on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3j2KMcZTtgTNBKwtZBMHvl?si=85bc9196860e4466 Subscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-twenty-minute-vc-20vc-venture-capital-startup/id958230465 Follow Harry Stebbings on X: https://twitter.com/HarryStebbings Follow Matt Murphy on X: https://twitter.com/mmurph Follow 20VC on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/20vchq Follow 20VC on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@20vc_tok Visit our Website: https://www.20vc.com Subscribe to our Newsletter: https://www.thetwentyminutevc.com/contact ----------------------------------------------- #20vc #harrystebbings #ai #mattmurphy #menloventures #anthropic #opensource #venture
SPEAKERS
Matt Murphy
guestPartner at Menlo Ventures and venture capitalist focused on technology and AI investing.
Harry Stebbings
hostFounder and host of The Twenty Minute VC (20VC) podcast.
EPISODE SUMMARY
In this episode of The Twenty Minute VC, featuring Matt Murphy and Harry Stebbings, Will Open-Source Threaten Anthropic's Business & Do Margins Matter in a World of AI | Matt Murphy explores matt Murphy on AI investing: ownership, margins, open-source, barbell strategy. Menlo’s Anthropic investment required abandoning traditional ownership/valuation heuristics in favor of gaining exposure to rare, compounding outliers.
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