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Can AI Fix Housing and Healthcare Affordability?

Housing and healthcare make up nearly half of household spending, yet both sectors are riddled with inefficiency and rising costs. In this episode, Erik Torenberg is joined by a16z Growth partner Alex Immerman and Minna Song and Tony Stoyanov, cofounders of EliseAI, to discuss why they’re tackling these critical industries and how AI can transform everything from leasing and maintenance to patient scheduling and compliance. The conversation covers: - Why the U.S. is 5 million housing units short — and how technology can help unlock existing supply - How automation can cut waste, reduce labor costs, and improve affordability - What fully autonomous buildings might look like, and how that model could extend to healthcare This is about the costs that touch every household, and the role AI might play in finally bringing them down. Timecodes: 0:00 Introduction 0:28 Why Housing and Healthcare? 1:55 Technology’s Role in Housing 3:30 Housing Affordability & Supply Challenges 5:29 Regulatory and Capital Barriers 8:13 Improving Efficiency in Real Estate 12:50 Automation & The Future of Property Management 18:15 The Human Role in an Automated Future 20:35 Financial Engineering & Data Bottlenecks 21:51 The Future of Housing: AI, Robotics, and Mobility 25:33 R&D and Technology Adoption in Real Estate 27:40 Addressing Criticisms of PropTech 29:30 Tackling Repairs, Maintenance, and Operations 30:49 Expanding from Housing to Healthcare 33:04 Parallels Between Housing and Healthcare 37:46 The Ultimate Vision Resources: Link to blog: https://a16z.com/announcement/investing-in-eliseai/ Find Minna on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/minna-song/ Find Tony on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stoyan-tony-stoyanov-07690a53 FInd Alex on X: https://x.com/aleximm Stay Updated: Let us know what you think: https://ratethispodcast.com/a16z Find a16z on Twitter: https://twitter.com/a16z Find a16z on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/a16z Subscribe on your favorite podcast app: https://a16z.simplecast.com/ Follow our host: https://x.com/eriktorenberg Please note that the content here is for informational purposes only; should NOT be taken as legal, business, tax, or investment advice or be used to evaluate any investment or security; and is not directed at any investors or potential investors in any a16z fund. a16z and its affiliates may maintain investments in the companies discussed. For more details, please see a16z.com/disclosures.

Minna SongguestErik TorenberghostAlex ImmermanguestTony Stoyanovguest
Aug 21, 202540mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. Elise AI investment and the mission: autonomous buildings to cut major household costs

    The hosts introduce a16z’s investment in Elise AI and tee up the central thesis: housing and healthcare are the two biggest household expenses, and AI can remove massive operational waste. Minna frames the company’s ambition as enabling “fully autonomous buildings” and, more broadly, reducing the cost burden these sectors impose on society.

  2. Why housing and healthcare haven’t been “eaten by software” (and why AI changes the timing)

    Minna and Alex discuss why these industries remained expensive while tech-driven categories got cheaper. They argue AI is a paradigm shift because it can finally handle the operational, administrative, and communication burden that legacy software couldn’t.

  3. Housing affordability starts with supply—but utilization and responsiveness matter now

    Minna emphasizes supply as the primary driver of affordability, citing a multi-million unit shortfall and insufficient annual building. In the near term, she argues AI can increase utilization of existing stock by fixing broken leasing workflows that leave demand unanswered and units sitting vacant longer than necessary.

  4. Why supply is headed the wrong direction: zoning, but also returns and capital flows

    The conversation shifts to structural blockers: restrictive zoning and insufficient capital for construction. Minna argues that even with regulatory relaxation, capital must be attracted by improving housing investment returns—something better operations and higher NOI can support.

  5. YIMBY momentum and real-world examples: what reforms can do

    Tony discusses whether full YIMBYism is plausible and points to early proof in Minneapolis. The group explores how quickly supply could respond if building constraints were loosened substantially, arguing the market would build given permission and incentives.

  6. Making real estate a better asset: labor, insurance, and controllable operating costs

    Minna outlines why real estate operations are inefficient and why returns get pressured—especially by labor costs. She argues AI can counter cost inflation by automating workflows, improving compliance, and optimizing preventative maintenance to reduce downstream expenses.

  7. Efficiency without new builds: faster turns, better layouts, and metro-area connectivity

    For high-demand cities with limited new supply, Tony highlights ways to improve affordability via utilization and flexibility. These include reducing vacancy time, exploring smaller units and shared amenities, and improving infrastructure so surrounding areas effectively expand supply.

  8. From 100 to 200+ units per employee: the path to fully autonomous building ops

    Minna describes Elise AI’s goal of enabling portfolios to run core operations with minimal human intervention, leaving primarily physical work and legally required tasks. She shares examples of centralized operating models where AI enables dramatic staff-to-units ratios across many properties.

  9. What’s automated today: maintenance triage, leasing, self-touring, and documentation

    The founders walk through current automation wins across residential operations. They highlight tangible improvements in resident experience, including faster work-order completion and significantly reduced time from listing to lease due to 24/7 touring and instant responses.

  10. Second-order automation: coordinating resources across a multi-building ecosystem

    Tony argues the next wave of gains comes from optimizing at the portfolio/ecosystem level rather than per-building. Sharing labor, tools, and parts across properties increases complexity, but enables much larger efficiency improvements—especially for maintenance operations.

  11. Humans in an AI-run future: community, specialization, and supervising AI systems

    Minna explains that as AI absorbs routine communication and logistics, roles shift rather than vanish. Staff move toward relationship-building, conflict resolution, and specialized functions, and eventually toward managing and auditing large fleets of AI agents.

  12. Long-term housing future: robotics, modular construction, longevity, and mobility

    The group zooms out to how AGI, robotics, and longevity could reshape housing demand and supply. They connect lower cost of living to family formation and argue robotics/modular methods could reduce construction costs, while AI-enabled operations could increase mobility through shorter, easier leasing cycles.

  13. Why real estate R&D is so low—and why AI may finally unlock adoption

    Minna argues the operational “search space” in housing is huge and full of edge cases, making prior software too brittle and pushing firms to rely on people instead. AI can handle variability, and as automation becomes feasible, real estate could shift from low R&D to significant AI investment.

  14. PropTech criticism and the case for adoption: efficiency, competition, and consumer surplus

    Responding to critiques that PropTech helps landlords extract more value, Minna and Tony argue technology generally improves service and lowers costs. They claim inefficiency raises barriers to entry and strengthens incumbent pricing power, while mass adoption and competition should pass gains to consumers.

  15. Repairs, maintenance, and operations: scheduling, routing, purchasing, and prevention

    Tony and Minna explain how unit turns and maintenance delays drive vacancy and cost, often due to avoidable coordination failures. They see AI as a planning engine that can encode real-world dependencies (what must happen first), reduce lost information, and optimize preventative replacement cycles.

  16. Expanding into healthcare: similar admin pain, different domain

    Elise AI’s move into healthcare is framed as a natural extension of its strengths in administrative workflows. Tony argues the similarities are strongest in intake, repetitive inquiries, phone-based unstructured communication, and scheduling—areas where their voice and ops tech transfers well.

  17. Why healthcare costs stay high: elastic demand plus admin costs rising fastest

    Tony argues both are true: people want more and better healthcare as it improves, but the administrative experience hasn’t improved proportionally. He suggests admin costs have grown faster than clinical value, and AI can finally reduce that burden because it handles unstructured interactions better than prior tools.

  18. Where the healthcare platform goes next: from scheduling to billing and longitudinal engagement

    Tony outlines a roadmap from the initial interaction through billing and post-appointment communication. The group highlights adherence as a major lever: AI can reinforce care plans, answer follow-up questions, bridge language gaps, and involve family members who weren’t present at appointments.

  19. Lessons learned and the ultimate vision: tackle the hardest, most underserved—and cut the 42% burden

    Minna reflects that she would have started with affordable housing because it has maximal complexity and administrative drag, mirroring their approach to underserved segments in healthcare. They close with an ambition to materially reduce the share of household spend going to housing and healthcare through broad efficiency gains.

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