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The Rule for Picking AI Winners | The a16z Show

David George, General Partner at a16z, and David Clark, CIO at VenCap, discuss how AI is reshaping venture capital and the technology industry itself. They examine why today’s AI companies are scaling faster than any previous generation of startups, and why the eventual outcomes may be significantly larger than most investors currently expect. The conversation covers frontier AI models, coding agents, open source competition, data center constraints, and who ultimately captures value in the AI ecosystem. They also discuss what these shifts mean for venture capital itself, including larger company outcomes, faster value creation, and the growing challenge of identifying durable winners in a market evolving at unprecedented speed. Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 00:38 - The Scale Shift: Anthropic & OpenAI Adding More Revenue Than Hyperscalers 04:20 - Skeuomorphic vs Native AI Applications in the Enterprise 06:24 - How the Best AI Companies Run Themselves Differently 08:14 - Top 1% Exits 10X'd in 24 Months 11:17 - The Half-Life Problem: Why 40% of AI Leaders Drop Off Every Year 13:11 - Token Path, Cost Pressure & Who Captures Value 17:00 - Loss Ratios, Risk & How We Think About Early Stage 22:51 - Are We in an AI Bubble? 27:36 - What SpaceX, OpenAI & Anthropic IPOs Mean for Public Markets 29:59 - The Future of Venture Capital in an AI World Resources: Follow David George on X: https://x.com/DavidGeorge83 Follow David Clark on X: https://x.com/daveclark85 Follow VenCap on X: https://www.vencap.com Stay Updated: If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to like, subscribe, and share with your friends! Find a16z on X: https://twitter.com/a16z Find a16z on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/a16z Listen to the a16z Show on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5bC65RDvs3oxnLyqqvkUYX Listen to the a16z Show on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/a16z-podcast/id842818711 Follow our host: https://x.com/eriktorenberg Please note that the content here is for informational purposes only; should NOT be taken as legal, business, tax, or investment advice or be used to evaluate any investment or security; and is not directed at any investors or potential investors in any a16z fund. a16z and its affiliates may maintain investments in the companies discussed. For more details please see http://a16z.com/disclosures.

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May 29, 202633mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

How to pick AI winners amid scale, costs, and churn

  1. Anthropic and OpenAI are portrayed as adding revenue at a pace exceeding hyperscalers while AI penetration into the broader economy remains very low, implying large upside if diffusion accelerates.
  2. Enterprise AI is still largely “skeuomorphic” (making existing workflows faster), but the next shift is toward native, proactive, agentic systems and new ways companies are run.
  3. The magnitude of venture outcomes is compressing in time, with “top 1% exits” rapidly re-benchmarking upward, increasing both opportunity and the cost of picking wrong.
  4. Predicting durable winners is getting harder as technology shifts faster and “half-life” appears short, with a large fraction of prominent AI startups falling off leader lists year over year.
  5. Value capture hinges on token economics and model-market structure (number of frontier competitors, open source viability, and cost declines), while compute and data-center scarcity reduces near-term bubble risk.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Scale is racing ahead of real-economy adoption.

They argue leading model companies are already adding revenue faster than hyperscalers even though AI diffusion into most enterprise functions is cited as under ~5%, implying the next adoption wave could be much larger than current usage suggests.

Enterprise spend will be bounded by where budget can come from—profits and labor.

A practical “upper bound” framing is that enterprises must fund AI from a finite pool (e.g., aggregate profits), forcing tradeoffs like replacing legacy software spend, raising prices, and/or restructuring labor to cover AI run costs.

“Be in the token path” is emerging as the rule of thumb for picking winners.

Because AI costs hit buyers directly, companies that sit directly in the flow of token consumption (or tightly govern/optimize it) are positioned to remain essential when budgets tighten and procurement becomes cost-driven.

Model-market structure will decide who captures most of the economics.

If only a few frontier labs exist, token prices stay higher and value accrues upstream; if many credible frontier providers and open source options exist, token prices fall, enabling more value to accrue to downstream applications and the broader economy.

Open source’s fate may depend on distillation feasibility and countermeasures.

They note distillation can be far cheaper than full pretraining, which would favor open ecosystems—unless frontier labs successfully prevent/limit distillation, shifting advantage back to closed providers.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

Basically Anthropic and OpenAI are adding more revenue per month than Meta, Google, or Microsoft.

David George

They are already at that scale of revenue getting added, and actual diffusion of this technology into the real economy is tiny. It's like less than 5%.

David George

The new companies are very lean, very aggressive, and they work all the time.

David George

Between 2020 and 2024, top 1% exits started at $10 billion... We just updated them yesterday. Um, and if you look at just the exits that have closed, it's now at $32 billion. So Wiz is the, is the threshold for the, the top 1%.

David Clark

I feel pretty confident saying that we're not in a bubble right now. I'm less confident, you know, that we won't be in a bubble three years from now.

David George

Revenue scale vs economic diffusionFortune 500 profit pool as AI budget ceilingSkeuomorphic vs native/agentic enterprise AIHow AI-native companies operate (lean, agent-driven)Exit size inflation and faster value creationStartup “half-life” and defensibility erosionToken path, token prices, and model-market structureOpen source, distillation, and local/small modelsEarly-stage loss ratios and venture risk appetiteBubble debate: supply constraints in compute/power/data centersData-center permitting/community resistanceIPO impact on public markets and index inclusionVC platform strategy in an AI cycleConsumer attention/time-spent shifts as biggest outcomes

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