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Why Building an AI Agent Is Easier Than Deploying One

a16z’s Seema Amble and Elena Burger sit down with Lio co-founder and CEO Vladimir Keil to ask where AI-native startups have an advantage when incumbent software companies already own the customer, the data, and the system of record. Their answer comes down to the work that happens outside those systems. In procurement, a final price in an ERP can hide hundreds of emails, spreadsheets, supplier conversations, engineering analyses, and decisions across legal, finance, and operations. Vlad explains how Lio uses multi-agent systems to take on more of that end-to-end work, from sourcing and RFQs to negotiation, shipment tracking, and invoices. They also discuss how enterprises learn to trust agents with increasingly consequential decisions, why the last 20% of an internal AI build can require most of the effort, and what happens when both buyers and suppliers have agents working on their behalf. Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 00:58 - Why AI startups still beat incumbents 04:19 - The hidden work behind an $8K line item 06:18 - Retrieval, process, policy, principal 09:27 - The incumbent's internal conflict 14:48 - What procurement actually looks like 21:13 - Procurement at Boeing-scale 28:03 - A bolt order, end-to-end 37:57 - What a durable vertical AI company looks like 44:46 - When both sides deploy agents Resources: Follow Vladimir Keil on X: https://x.com/askvladi?lang=en Follow Vladimir Keil on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vladimir-keil/ Follow Seema Amble on X: https://x.com/seema_amble Learn more about Lio: https://www.lio.ai/ Seema Amble’s “Investing in Lio” article: https://a16z.com/announcement/investing-in-lio/ Stay Updated: If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to like, subscribe, and share with your friends! Find a16z on X: https://twitter.com/a16z Find a16z on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/a16z Listen to the a16z Show on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5bC65RDvs3oxnLyqqvkUYX Listen to the a16z Show on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/a16z-podcast/id842818711 Follow our host: https://x.com/eriktorenberg Please note that the content here is for informational purposes only; should NOT be taken as legal, business, tax, or investment advice or be used to evaluate any investment or security; and is not directed at any investors or potential investors in any a16z fund. a16z and its affiliates may maintain investments in the companies discussed. For more details please see http://a16z.com/disclosures.

Vladimir KeilguestSeema AmblehostElena Burgerhost
Oct 2, 202659mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

End-to-end procurement agents beat chatbots—deployment, trust, and exceptions matter

  1. AI incumbents have distribution and data, but startups can outperform by solving the full cross-system, cross-stakeholder “job” rather than only augmenting a single system of record.
  2. The episode frames agent capability as a ladder from retrieval to process to policy to principal, with meaningful business value increasing alongside judgment, risk, and trust requirements.
  3. Procurement is highlighted as an ideal vertical for AI agents because critical work lives in emails, spreadsheets, and exception handling—where delays or missed messages can cause massive downstream losses.
  4. Lio’s deployment strategy emphasizes human-in-the-loop learning, multi-agent orchestration, and production-grade harnessing (integrations, evals, workflows) to reach enterprise reliability.
  5. Durable vertical AI companies build trust and dependency by doing more of the work end-to-end, creating stickiness and data/learning loops that are difficult to replicate with DIY model hookups.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Startups’ edge is owning end-to-end work, not just embedding a model into a system of record.

Incumbents can add AI on top of their system-of-record, but many enterprise “jobs” (like procurement) happen across email, spreadsheets, stakeholders, and external counterparties—well beyond what the incumbent database sees. Startups can win by orchestrating the whole arc from intake → sourcing → negotiation → contracting → tracking → invoicing.

The agent frontier is moving from information access to judgment and tradeoffs.

Seema outlines a progression: retrieval (find/summarize info), process (execute deterministic steps), policy (apply situational judgment), and principal (optimize for business objectives and relationships). Incumbents largely ship retrieval + light process; higher-judgment agents create bigger value but carry more risk and organizational friction.

The real automation target is the invisible workflow behind the line item.

Vlad argues procurement’s visible output (e.g., an “$8K” ERP line item) hides the real work: stakeholder meetings, email threads, Excel analysis, and exception handling. Agents add value where the work actually happens—outside the ERP—especially in exceptions and coordination.

Deployment succeeds via graduated autonomy and tight feedback loops, not “full autonomy day one.”

Lio earns trust by starting with human-in-the-loop and scaling autonomy as performance and confidence grow (e.g., from assisted negotiations to 10K+ largely agent-run negotiations). For high-stakes direct procurement, agents run long, multi-hour workflows with domain experts (cost engineers, legal, finance) providing stepwise feedback.

Durable agents are systems—multiple coordinated agents, tools, and integrations—not a single chat interface.

Single “copilot” agents break down for real procurement because tasks require sequencing, tool integrations, and specialized sub-work (RFQs, parsing PDFs/Excels, benchmarking, contract review, news/supplier risk). Lio describes a coordinated multi-agent system sharing context to execute the end-to-end job.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

No company and no enterprise starts with fully autonomous negotiation agents from day one. Why? Because they don't trust us, and they don't trust the technology from day one.

— Vladimir Keil

The opportunity for the AI-native startup is to say, "We're gonna own that entire, um, end-to-end arc, that end-to-end arc."

— Seema Amble

So you see in your ERP system 8K for aluminum, um, but you don't see that maybe the, um, the supplier did, like, a pushback and asked for, like, um, 10K.

— Vladimir Keil

Someone sends a confirmation of like, "Hey, sorry, like this part is going to arrive two weeks later." And if they miss this email, hundreds of millions of damage done.

— Vladimir Keil

So you can build this in eight hours, and you can build this, but you will only reach 70%, let's say like the, of the performance. Um, and the problem is 70% of performance or accuracy or however you measured it, it depends really on the task, doesn't mean 70%, um, automation, right?

— Vladimir Keil

Incumbents vs AI-native startupsEnd-to-end job ownership across systemsAgent types: retrieval, process, policy, principalProcurement work outside ERPs (email/Excel reality)Human-in-the-loop trust rampsMulti-agent orchestration and sequencingException handling and last-mile deployment harnessing

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