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80 min read · 16,316 words- AGAakash Gupta
What if AI agents could replace members of your team? The hottest startup for building AI agents right now is Lindy, and we have on the CEO, Flo Crivello. And we are going to show you how you can make tons of money by building AI agents in twenty twenty-five.
- FCFlo Crivello
I think people should increasingly, with AI agents and with the rise of AI in general, they should increasingly think themselves as orchestrators and not as doers. I just think with AI agents, it's like everybody just got a promotion to manager.
- AGAakash Gupta
People might be asking, "Well, what types of integrations do I need to do? How do I integrate my CRM? What does that look like?"
- FCFlo Crivello
Like, we have six thousand integrations, so pretty much any tool that you want to use, you can use it in Lindy.
- AGAakash Gupta
What are the things you should be thinking about when you create an AI agent so that it isn't going out there and potentially ruining your brand name within your company?
- FCFlo Crivello
That's where human in is important. You can double it down, and you can be like, "Before you do this specific thing, you ask me for confirmation."
- AGAakash Gupta
LLMs, they tend to be unreliable. There tends to be some lossiness.
- FCFlo Crivello
I think LLMs have a worse reputation than deserved because they have improved so rapidly. They don't screw up much more often than a human would.
- AGAakash Gupta
You hired perhaps the most famous engineer right now-
- FCFlo Crivello
[laughs]
- AGAakash Gupta
... Soham Parekh. If you haven't heard of him for working, like, five jobs, tell us the story of hiring him.
- FCFlo Crivello
He was really good. Within a week of joining, he started making excuses. I woke up one morning, and I saw that conversation on Slack. That was like, "Wait a minute. Like, is, is this our Soham?"
- AGAakash Gupta
What it's like to use the agent builder or the flow editor.
- FCFlo Crivello
So you literally just click Start from scratch, and I'm just gonna... You just talk to it in English. And so I'm gonna say-
- AGAakash Gupta
Flo, welcome to the podcast.
- FCFlo Crivello
Yeah. Thanks for having me, Aakash.
- AGAakash Gupta
So you recently went viral on LinkedIn when you said that Lindy agents can be a hundred X more effective and cheaper than humans. Is that true?
- FCFlo Crivello
It's true for certain roles, for su- for sure. And I, I, I feel like it should hardly be controversial. Like, we accept that machines are, are, by and large, like, a thousand X better. Like, a calculator is just, like, infinitely better at calculating than a human, right? Uh, a computer is, is just millions of times faster at whatever it does than a human. Um, I, I think it, it's just a matter of this range of things at which computers are better than humans is just extending over time, and it's just... In a way, that's just a continuation of, of the march of technology over the last couple of decades. So absolutely. Like, the things you can ask AI agents to do today, and there's many of these things. There's, like, thousands of use cases, like customer support, like sales prospecting, recruiting and whatnot. Absolutely, AI agents are going to be way, way, way better than humans.
- AGAakash Gupta
I think that you and I understand that because we're in the day-to-day building and using AI agents. I polled my Slack community of working product managers and tech professionals. I asked them, "How many of you guys have built or used an AI agent?" Literally, eight out of one hundred had done it.
- FCFlo Crivello
Yeah.
- AGAakash Gupta
So-
- FCFlo Crivello
And that's great
- AGAakash Gupta
... the penetration is very high on Twitter. It's very high on YouTube. But in the-
- FCFlo Crivello
Yeah
- AGAakash Gupta
... real world of people working, the penetration is not there, and I think seeing is believing.
- FCFlo Crivello
Totally.
- AGAakash Gupta
So would you be up for kinda demoing these for us?
- FCFlo Crivello
Yeah, absolutely.
- AGAakash Gupta
And while you're doing that, a lot of people, they're not even sure what an agent should be used for. What are, in your mind, the top five AI agents that every entrepreneur should be using?
- FCFlo Crivello
Yeah. I think the, the ones we see most commonly used, there's the ones that people use for their companies, and then there's the ones that people use for their lives. For your life, you should use an agent for meeting recording. It, it blows my mind that people... Not everyone has one yet. It's like you need to have an agent sitting with you in every meeting, and it's, it's incredible because it becomes like a second brain. Like, you can ask it questions about any past meeting. You can, like, have it, like, send action items. You can have it, like, you can configure it so that, you know, we, we, we have, like, Slack channels for every project in the company. And so if we have a meeting about a project, my agent, and I'll show you what it looks like. This is my meeting recording agent. This is actually a, a recording that we had for... It's a chat with Anthropic. And y- you can see right here, this is actually a question I asked this morning. So we, we are organizing a hackathon, uh, on, uh, August ninth. Uh, if you are in San Francisco and if you wanna join, please join. Um, and I just asked this morning, it's like, "Hey, like, how much did Anthropic say they would contribute to the hackathon again?" And here they were like, "Oh, you know, they're contributing, like, ten thousand dollars worth of credits." And that's just me, like, opening a new task, but I can just also scroll down and see all of my meeting history here. We're gonna have to, like, hide the list here. But I can see here this task, which shows, like, Lindy recording the meeting and then, like, summarizing the entire meeting here.
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