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5 AI Agents Every PM Must Use in 2025 (Act Fast)

If you’ve ever said “I just wish I had an assistant who knew exactly how I think”... Lindy is that assistant. These agents aren’t demos. They’re real, customizable workflows anyone can build. No coding experience required. Flo Crivello (founder of Lindy and ex-Cruise/YC) joined us to show how his personal AI stack runs his entire workday: From triaging emails, summarizing meetings, blocking spam, managing contacts, and even sourcing candidates. We’re not talking theory here. You’ll see what’s possible today (no prompting skills, no code), just real agents doing real work when you give them instructions in plain English Language. Transcript: https://www.news.aakashg.com/p/flo-crivello-podcast Timestamps: Introduction: AI Agents vs Human Workers - 0:00 Are Lindy Agents Really 100x More Effective? - 1:34 Agent 1: Meeting Recording That Never Forgets - 3:28 Agent 2: Email Triage That Works While You Sleep - 10:48 Agent 3: CRM Agent That Manages Your Network - 13:25 Ad: Mobbin (Product Design Library) - 15:20 Ad: Jira Product Discovery - 16:23 Agent 4: Removing Twitter Spam Automatically - 18:04 Agent 5: Recruiting Software Engineers at Scale - 22:04 How to Measure and Improve Your AI Agents - 26:02 Secret: Auto-Posting from Twitter to LinkedIn - 28:03 Ad: AI PM Certification Course - 29:29 Top AI Agents Every Product Manager Needs - 31:06 Framework: When to Build an AI Agent - 35:55 ChatGPT vs Claude vs Lindy: Key Differences - 40:30 How Big Has Lindy Become? (5x Growth in 6 Months) - 44:50 Hiring the Most Famous Engineer (5-Job Scammer) - 48:29 From Product Manager to AI Founder Journey - 53:04 The One Key Insight That Changed Everything - 56:42 Should All PMs Become AI Founders? - 1:00:31 Hardest Moment: The Pivot Valley of Death - 1:04:35 AI Agent Agencies: The New Gold Rush Business - 1:07:38 Future: Will AI Agents Run Companies Autonomously? - 1:11:19 Conclusion: How to Get Started with AI Agents - 1:15:33 Thanks to our sponsors: 1. Mobbin: Discover real-world design inspiration - mobbin.com/aakash 2. Jira Product Discovery: Build the right thing - https://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/product-discovery 3. Product Faculty's #1 AI PM Certification with OpenAI's Product Lead (get $500 off) - https://maven.com/product-faculty/ai-product-management-certification?promoCode=AAKASH25 Takeaways: 1. You don’t need to be a “Founder” to act like one. Early in his career, Flo treated his work at Uber like it was his own company. That ownership mentality made him a better PM than most founders. 2. Write Like Your Career Depends on It. Clarity of thought = clarity of writing. He said the best PMs he’s worked with are excellent writers, not because it looks good, but because it reflects structured thinking. 3. Avoid Resume-Driven Decisions. Instead of chasing shiny brand names or job titles, ask: “Will this environment force me to grow?” For him, going from Uber to starting Lindy wasn’t a linear step up—it was a leap into discomfort. 4. Product Sense Is a Muscle. He builds product by imagining it from the user’s emotional POV. Not “What features should we ship?” but “What would delight the user in this moment?” 5. You Can't Delegate Taste. No matter how senior you are, if you're not involved in the details of product quality, you’ll lose the magic. He reviews designs himself, edits copy, and obsesses over UX—because product taste is not outsourceable. 6. Go where product is sacred. A PM’s growth is tied to the culture. He picked Uber because product rigor was high. At Lindy, he made product obsession part of the DNA. If your company doesn’t value product deeply, leave. 👨‍💻 Where to find Flo: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/florentcrivello/ X: https://x.com/altimor?lang=en Lindy: https://www.lindy.ai 👨‍💻 Where to find Aakash: Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/aakashg0 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aagupta/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aakashg0/ #ai #aiagents #aiagent 🧠 About Product Growth: The world's largest podcast focused solely on product + growth, with over 180K listeners. Hosted by Aakash Gupta, who spent 16 years in PM, rising to VP of product, this 2x/ week show covers product and growth topics in depth. 🔔 Subscribe and like the video to support our content! And turn on the bell for notifications.

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  1. AG

    What if AI agents could replace members of your team? The hottest startup for building AI agents right now is Lindy, and we have on the CEO, Flo Crivello. And we are going to show you how you can make tons of money by building AI agents in twenty twenty-five.

  2. FC

    I think people should increasingly, with AI agents and with the rise of AI in general, they should increasingly think themselves as orchestrators and not as doers. I just think with AI agents, it's like everybody just got a promotion to manager.

  3. AG

    People might be asking, "Well, what types of integrations do I need to do? How do I integrate my CRM? What does that look like?"

  4. FC

    Like, we have six thousand integrations, so pretty much any tool that you want to use, you can use it in Lindy.

  5. AG

    What are the things you should be thinking about when you create an AI agent so that it isn't going out there and potentially ruining your brand name within your company?

  6. FC

    That's where human in is important. You can double it down, and you can be like, "Before you do this specific thing, you ask me for confirmation."

  7. AG

    LLMs, they tend to be unreliable. There tends to be some lossiness.

  8. FC

    I think LLMs have a worse reputation than deserved because they have improved so rapidly. They don't screw up much more often than a human would.

  9. AG

    You hired perhaps the most famous engineer right now-

  10. FC

    [laughs]

  11. AG

    ... Soham Parekh. If you haven't heard of him for working, like, five jobs, tell us the story of hiring him.

  12. FC

    He was really good. Within a week of joining, he started making excuses. I woke up one morning, and I saw that conversation on Slack. That was like, "Wait a minute. Like, is, is this our Soham?"

  13. AG

    What it's like to use the agent builder or the flow editor.

  14. FC

    So you literally just click Start from scratch, and I'm just gonna... You just talk to it in English. And so I'm gonna say-

  15. AG

    Flo, welcome to the podcast.

  16. FC

    Yeah. Thanks for having me, Aakash.

  17. AG

    So you recently went viral on LinkedIn when you said that Lindy agents can be a hundred X more effective and cheaper than humans. Is that true?

  18. FC

    It's true for certain roles, for su- for sure. And I, I, I feel like it should hardly be controversial. Like, we accept that machines are, are, by and large, like, a thousand X better. Like, a calculator is just, like, infinitely better at calculating than a human, right? Uh, a computer is, is just millions of times faster at whatever it does than a human. Um, I, I think it, it's just a matter of this range of things at which computers are better than humans is just extending over time, and it's just... In a way, that's just a continuation of, of the march of technology over the last couple of decades. So absolutely. Like, the things you can ask AI agents to do today, and there's many of these things. There's, like, thousands of use cases, like customer support, like sales prospecting, recruiting and whatnot. Absolutely, AI agents are going to be way, way, way better than humans.

  19. AG

    I think that you and I understand that because we're in the day-to-day building and using AI agents. I polled my Slack community of working product managers and tech professionals. I asked them, "How many of you guys have built or used an AI agent?" Literally, eight out of one hundred had done it.

  20. FC

    Yeah.

  21. AG

    So-

  22. FC

    And that's great

  23. AG

    ... the penetration is very high on Twitter. It's very high on YouTube. But in the-

  24. FC

    Yeah

  25. AG

    ... real world of people working, the penetration is not there, and I think seeing is believing.

  26. FC

    Totally.

  27. AG

    So would you be up for kinda demoing these for us?

  28. FC

    Yeah, absolutely.

  29. AG

    And while you're doing that, a lot of people, they're not even sure what an agent should be used for. What are, in your mind, the top five AI agents that every entrepreneur should be using?

  30. FC

    Yeah. I think the, the ones we see most commonly used, there's the ones that people use for their companies, and then there's the ones that people use for their lives. For your life, you should use an agent for meeting recording. It, it blows my mind that people... Not everyone has one yet. It's like you need to have an agent sitting with you in every meeting, and it's, it's incredible because it becomes like a second brain. Like, you can ask it questions about any past meeting. You can, like, have it, like, send action items. You can have it, like, you can configure it so that, you know, we, we, we have, like, Slack channels for every project in the company. And so if we have a meeting about a project, my agent, and I'll show you what it looks like. This is my meeting recording agent. This is actually a, a recording that we had for... It's a chat with Anthropic. And y- you can see right here, this is actually a question I asked this morning. So we, we are organizing a hackathon, uh, on, uh, August ninth. Uh, if you are in San Francisco and if you wanna join, please join. Um, and I just asked this morning, it's like, "Hey, like, how much did Anthropic say they would contribute to the hackathon again?" And here they were like, "Oh, you know, they're contributing, like, ten thousand dollars worth of credits." And that's just me, like, opening a new task, but I can just also scroll down and see all of my meeting history here. We're gonna have to, like, hide the list here. But I can see here this task, which shows, like, Lindy recording the meeting and then, like, summarizing the entire meeting here.

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