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This episode is a full walkthrough of how Meng To, founder of Design+Code, actually uses Codex day to day. Plan mode, a 20-agent fleet, the taste skill that makes AI design look senior level, and a digital twin built from ten old photos, plus his take on why some PMs are surviving this year's layoffs. Full Writeup: https://www.news.aakashg.com/p/pms-guide-to-ai-design Transcript: https://www.aakashg.com/meng-to-podcast/ --- Timestamps: 0:00 - Intro 2:44 - The best AI design tools right now 4:05 - What Codex actually is and how to set it up 8:43 - Inside Meng's real Codex project folders 13:42 - Plugins vs skills vs computer use 22:02 - Ads 24:04 - Building your project folder system 30:57 - The permission tiers, from default to full access 32:55 - Plan mode in action, building a slide from real data 42:03 - The screenshot shortcut that changes everything 47:32 - The taste skill that makes AI design look senior-level 55:07 - Building your own AI digital twin 1:05:31 - How some PMs are surviving the layoffs 1:12:40 - Outro --- Thanks to our sponsor: Arize: Trace, evaluate, and fix your AI agents before broken behavior ships to users - https://arize.com/?utm_source=aakashgupta&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=arize_sponsor_ai --- Key Takeaways: 1. Codex is a fleet operator - Meng runs 20 agents at once while stepping away from his desk entirely. Each one works on something different, slides, charts, brainstorms, while he does something else completely. 2. Plan mode isn't optional - Skipping it means paying twice, once to build the wrong thing, once to undo it. Codex returns a full breakdown, architecture, steps, and open questions, before touching anything. 3. A screenshot beats a paragraph every time - It shows the AI what you mean instead of what you think you mean. A simple two-key shortcut drops any window straight into the chat as context. 4. The taste skill is the real differentiator - Without it, AI design defaults to generic. With it, the output looks like something a senior designer with years of experience actually made. 5. Trust is earned in tiers - Read only first, then supervised access, then full access. Skipping straight to full access before learning where the AI tends to fail is how people get burned. 6. HTML beats Figma for speed - Every extra tool is a login, a subscription, and a context switch the AI can't do for you. Keep your blast radius small. 7. UGC won because audiences are tired of corporate polish - A synthetic version of you, used honestly, reads as more human than a generic message. Ten old photos is all it takes to build a digital twin. 8. Technical PMs aren't surviving layoffs because they write code - Meng hasn't written a single line in six months. They're surviving because they're fluent enough to direct a fleet of agents and catch a wrong output before it ships. 9. Meng builds his own tools when nothing off the shelf fits - His own video editor, his own SaaS templates, his own design brainstorming app. The tool built for your exact workflow beats the popular one every time. 10. The bar isn't five star anymore - Five star is just the floor everyone clears by default now. The real question is what six, seven, all the way to eleven star looks like, because that ceiling rises exactly as fast as the floor does. --- 👨‍💻 Where to find Meng To: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mengto Design+Code: https://designcode.io Aura: https://aura.build 👨‍💻 Where to find Aakash: Twitter/X: https://x.com/aakashgupta LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aagupta/ Newsletter: https://www.news.aakashg.com #ProductManagement #AIDesign #Codex --- About Product Growth: The world's largest podcast focused solely on product + growth, with over 200K+ listeners. Subscribe and turn on notifications.

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Jul 9, 20261h 14mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Codex power-workflows: PMs run agents, design, slides, products fast

  1. Meng argues Codex is “ChatGPT on steroids,” enabling PMs to generate slides, HTML, app prototypes, and workflows by operating on local project folders with strong context.
  2. He breaks down the ecosystem—AI browser (Atlas), voice input (WhisperFlow), knowledge organization (Obsidian), and Codex “computer use”—to connect AI work to real apps like Figma, email, and spreadsheets.
  3. He recommends a project-based folder system plus “Plan mode” to reduce mistakes, control scope, and approve architecture before the agent starts executing.
  4. He demonstrates practical PM use cases: building slides from real metrics, iterating via screenshots, converting image-first drafts into HTML/PowerPoint, and running multiple agents in parallel as a “fleet.”
  5. In a career segment, he claims layoffs disproportionately hit non-technical PMs; the path forward is becoming “technical” via AI fluency and eventually using agents to found and run businesses with humans providing taste and QA.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Treat each Codex project as a local folder with bounded context.

Meng’s core workflow is “projects = folders,” letting agents read/write files locally while keeping scope small enough to avoid bloated context and token waste.

Use Obsidian as the long-term home for AI-generated documents.

Codex can generate and view markdown, images, and code, but Obsidian helps you organize, link, and retrieve those artifacts later as a durable knowledge base.

Start with Plan mode to prevent premature execution and rework.

He repeatedly prompts “Let’s plan this” before building slides or apps so the agent proposes MVP scope, architecture, and steps that the human can approve or refine.

Understand the integration ladder: plugins < skills < computer use.

Plugins are deeper vendor integrations; skills are lightweight, user-installable instruction/recipes; computer use is the universal fallback that can operate any UI like a human.

Permission tiers are a leverage dial—raise trust gradually.

Meng frames default → standard/medium → full access as a trust curve; more access increases speed and capability (email, files, app control) but requires guardrails and judgment.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

Eventually, you will get fired because AI will replace everyone at some point, or we will find new ways to, to do our job.

Meng To

When we say that PMs are getting fired, I think it's important to clarify that it's the non-technical PMs that are getting fired. The technical PMs are actually staying at those companies.

Meng To

For me, context is king.

Meng To

You have an army of agents.

Meng To

You're no longer the, the bureaucracy player, the politics player in the company. Nobody needs that anymore because AI can kind of juggle around that.

Meng To

Codex vs Claude/Cursor/Open-source agent toolsLocal project folders as the unit of workObsidian for knowledge base and “brain tree” organizationPlugins vs skills vs computer use (and MCP/CLI)Plan mode, permissions tiers, and token/compute tradeoffsScreenshot-driven iteration (Command-Command shortcut)Taste skills for senior-looking design outputMobile Codex connected to a running desktop machineDigital twin/avatars for UGC and internal presentationsPM layoffs, technical PM advantage, PM-to-founder transition

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