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No.1 AuDHD Expert: The Cost Of Undiagnosed AuDHD

Dr Alex George is an ADHD and autism specialised doctor and one of the most renowned voices in the ADHD space. With personal experience involving ADHD & mental wellbeing, this is a conversation you can’t miss if you want to understand your ADHD on a deeper level. Chapters: 00:00 Trailer 02:47 How to manage ADHD overstimulation 07:03 Dr Alex’s ADHD mission 10:34 The emotional consequence of masking 13:24 The connection between masking and loneliness 15:11 Rejection Sensitivity Dysphoria 27:39 Signs of AuDHD 32:43 Masking 35:14 Tiimo advert 53:09 Dr Alex’s ADHD item 58:09 Washing machine of woes 01:02:31 A letter to my younger self Buy Dr Alex’s book 👉 https://www.amazon.co.uk/Am-Normal-Understanding-place-complex/dp/1783256389/ Find Dr Alex on Instagram 👉 https://www.instagram.com/dralexgeorge/?hl=en Buy Alex's book entitled 'Now It All Makes Sense' 👉 https://www.amazon.co.uk/Now-All-Makes-Sense-Diagnosis/dp/1399817817 Pre-order Alex’s latest book about Rejection Sensitive Dysphoria 👉 https://linktr.ee/adhdchatter?utm_source=linktree_profile_share&ltsid=9ffd8709-06df-444c-9936-c136fbd14d6e Get 30% off an annual Tiimo subscription 👉 https://www.tiimoapp.com/offers/adhdchatter Producer: Timon Woodward  Recorded by: Hamlin Studios Trailer editor: Ryan Faber DISCLAIMER: The content in the podcast and on this webpage is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your doctor or qualified healthcare provider. Never disregard professional medical advice or delay in seeking it because of something you have heard on the podcast or on my website.

Dr. Alex GeorgeguestAlex Partridgehost
Jan 20, 20261h 3mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:23 – 2:44

    ADHD in the public eye: creativity, noise, and identity boundaries

    Dr Alex reflects on whether having a large social media platform is overstimulating with ADHD. He frames it as both a dopamine driver and a source of "noise," and explains why separating "Alex" from the public-facing "Dr Alex" matters.

    • Public platforms can fuel creativity and dopamine, but also create constant input
    • Overstimulation isn’t always digital—being able to “put the phone down” helps
    • Rapid growth in visibility can be a bigger stressor than the platform itself
    • Avoiding the platform becoming your entire identity
  2. 2:44 – 6:57

    Overstimulation and shutdown: what it feels like and how to prevent snapping

    They break down how ADHD overwhelm shows up day-to-day—especially in noisy, socially demanding environments. Dr Alex describes agitation, the urge to escape, and practical strategies like planning exits and naming the feeling early.

    • Overstimulation often comes from busy social environments rather than online content
    • Common sensations: agitation, frustration, being “on edge,” needing to leave
    • Small triggers can become “the straw that breaks the camel’s back”
    • Preventive tactics: anticipate high-stimulation settings, plan exits, take quiet breaks
    • Communication reduces fallout: telling others you’re overstimulated prevents misunderstandings
  3. 6:57 – 10:06

    Why late diagnosis matters: trauma, alcohol, and systemic failure

    Dr Alex outlines his personal mission: helping people understand and accept themselves earlier to reduce lifelong friction. He discusses the tangible harms of missed neurodivergence in childhood and the broader societal costs, including health outcomes and criminal justice statistics.

    • Personal mission: self-understanding and reducing friction; scaling that for others
    • Late or missed diagnosis can lead to avoidable pain, impulsive mistakes, and substance use
    • School experiences can label kids as “naughty” or “low expectations,” causing long-term damage
    • Public health stakes: reduced life expectancy averages for undiagnosed ADHD
    • Links to wider systems: high ADHD indicators among arrested populations and in prisons
  4. 10:06 – 13:02

    Masking as self-harm: exhaustion, anxiety, and losing your sense of self

    The conversation shifts to masking from childhood and its emotional consequences. Dr Alex describes how forcing “normal” behavior protected him in school but created exhaustion, anxiety, identity confusion, and later reliance on alcohol to cope socially.

    • Masking from a young age described as a form of self-harm
    • School survival strategy: “act normal” to avoid punishment/exclusion
    • Costs: daily exhaustion, anxiety, physical stress, and hypervigilance
    • Adult impact: not knowing who you are under the mask
    • Alcohol used as a shortcut to “feel normal” in social settings
  5. 13:02 – 15:11

    Masking and loneliness: compliments don’t reach the real you

    They explore why expert masking can feel deeply isolating even when you appear socially successful. Dr Alex explains how validation bounces off when it’s directed at a persona, and how long-term masking can make you forget you’re doing it at all.

    • Loneliness comes from being liked for a “front,” not the authentic self
    • Positive feedback doesn’t land because it’s not experienced as “for me”
    • Long-term masking can become automatic—almost believing your own mask
    • Masking is driven by a desire for acceptance, not deception
    • Reframing sensitivity: what felt like weakness can become a strength (empathy, purpose)
  6. 15:11 – 25:44

    Rejection Sensitivity Dysphoria (RSD): conflict, rumination, and coping strategies

    Dr Alex and Alex Partridge unpack RSD as a core source of pain in ADHD—fueling defensiveness, misread interactions, and years of rumination. They share tactics that don’t “cure” RSD but reduce damage, like creating time/space before responding and requesting clarity from others.

    • RSD can escalate small comments into major conflict through perceived threat
    • After-effects are brutal: shame, replaying conversations, long-term rumination
    • Awareness helps: naming the trigger and delaying responses (e.g., 24-hour rule)
    • Practical safeguard: ask for context/clarity instead of letting the mind catastrophize
    • RSD influences major life events (rage quitting, relationship ruptures) without proportional cause
  7. 25:44 – 27:40

    RSD as a health risk: dark thoughts, OCD overlap, and alcohol as short-term anesthetic

    They address the most severe edge of RSD, including intrusive thoughts, relapse risk, and suicidality—especially when depression or OCD is present. Dr Alex explains the “perfect storm” of heightened emotion plus reduced executive function, and why alcohol can feel like immediate relief while worsening outcomes long-term.

    • RSD can trigger very dark, intrusive thoughts and become a risk-to-life issue
    • High emotion suppresses logical processing—especially challenging for ADHD brains
    • OCD + ADHD can amplify catastrophizing and repetitive rumination
    • Alcohol can temporarily dull pain, increasing risk of dependence/relapse
    • Support strategy: design communication norms that reduce ambiguity and spiraling
  8. 27:40 – 32:32

    Why Dr Alex suspects autism (AuDHD): sensory soothing, social decoding, and assessment realities

    Dr Alex shares why he pursued an ASD assessment: lifelong sensory needs (hairdryer soothing), intense masking, and difficulties reading social intent and trust. He describes the assessment process and the disorienting feeling of being “unmasked,” questioning what is personality versus neurotype.

    • Sensory regulation: hairdryer sound used for soothing since childhood
    • Masking felt deeper than “managing ADHD” — more like role construction
    • Social challenges: difficulty reading what people want, trust calibration issues
    • ADHD/ASD/OCD overlap and high co-occurrence rates; questioning diagnostic boundaries
    • Assessment experience: extensive questionnaires, developmental interview, family input, feeling profoundly unmasked
  9. 32:32 – 40:18

    Is masking autistic or ADHD? Different motivations and how “being good with people” can be learned

    They debate the claim that masking is exclusively autistic, and Dr Alex argues both ADHD and autism can involve masking—often for different reasons. He also explains how social competence can be learned and performed, while deeper bonding and friendship-building may remain difficult.

    • Masking can exist in both ADHD and autism; motivations may differ
    • ADHD masking: bending to fit a situation; autistic masking: consciously “becoming a role”
    • Autistic people can be excellent communicators (doctors, actors) despite stereotypes
    • Distinction between superficial social skill and forming deep bonds
    • Modeling social behavior (learning from a parent) can create competence without ease
  10. 40:18 – 44:27

    AuDHD contradictions: stimulation vs overwhelm, spontaneity vs rigid routine

    They explore the internal contradictions common in combined ADHD and autistic traits. Dr Alex describes fear of wasting time, strict routines, and how changes to plans can feel disproportionately destabilizing even while he maintains an outwardly varied, high-profile life.

    • “Contradiction” theme: craving stimulation but getting overstimulated
    • Fear of time and lost time; rigid wake-up habits and anxiety about oversleeping
    • Routine dependence: same meals, same coffee place, distress when disrupted
    • Busy, varied diary is tolerable—unexpected changes are not
    • Identity tension: sensitive, cautious child vs public-facing media figure
  11. 44:27 – 53:04

    ‘Am I Normal?’: normality, friction, and challenging harmful social expectations (grief, alcohol, self-blame)

    Dr Alex introduces the thesis of his book: normality only matters when it creates friction—and the critical next step is asking whether the friction comes from you or the world. He critiques cultural expectations around grief and alcohol, arguing many “problems” are actually systemic pressures miscast as personal failure.

    • Core idea: assess “normal” at the trait level; focus on what creates real friction
    • Second question: is the friction internal, or imposed by society/systems?
    • Grief critique: society expects people to “get over” loss on an unrealistic timeline
    • Alcohol critique: a toxic substance is normalized, then individuals are blamed when harmed
    • Goal: help readers feel seen and move toward self-acceptance and less friction
  12. 53:04 – 58:06

    ADHD item: trainers as the ‘exercise prescription’—running for dopamine, clarity, and survival

    In the show’s signature segment, Dr Alex brings trainers to represent ADHD, arguing exercise is one of the most powerful interventions imaginable. He shares how running transformed his mental health and describes a moment when a run pulled him back from the edge.

    • Exercise as an ADHD intervention: mood lift, quieter mind, presence, purpose
    • Running journey from beginner to London Marathon and major health changes
    • Dopamine/endorphin benefits—especially after ~20 minutes of movement
    • Running as a safer coping tool compared to alcohol or numbing behaviors
    • Mental health disclosure: a run helped him step back from very dark thoughts
  13. 58:06 – 1:02:33

    Washing machine of woes: women, misbelief, and the myth of ‘overdiagnosis’

    A listener question prompts a discussion about why ADHD in women is often dismissed as exaggeration. Dr Alex outlines diagnostic bias, challenges misconceptions about overdiagnosis, and emphasizes that ADHD education benefits everyone who lives or works with neurodivergent people.

    • Women are often missed due to male-centered diagnostic stereotypes (hyperactive boy model)
    • Dismissal can be subtle or overt (“trend,” “hormonal,” “not really ADHD”)
    • Rebuttal to “overdiagnosis”: diagnosis rates remain far below estimated prevalence
    • Why it matters: ADHD literacy improves relationships, workplaces, and care
    • Validation for women misdiagnosed or minimized (often labeled anxious or dramatic)
  14. 1:02:33 – 1:03:50

    Letter to younger self: knowledge, kindness, and prioritizing what matters

    They close with a letter from the previous guest offering perspective for one’s younger self—seek understanding, be kind, and value experiences and people. Dr Alex reinforces that diagnosis and learning primarily deliver understanding, which enables acceptance.

    • Future clarity and self-understanding as a turning point
    • Self-compassion and prioritizing loved ones and meaningful experiences
    • Sharing knowledge to help others “less fortunate”
    • Understanding as the biggest payoff of diagnosis and learning
    • Closing gratitude and book congratulations

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