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The Truth About ADHD and Hypermobility

Nick has also been at the forefront of research into the link between hypermobility, pain sensitivity, and ADHD.

Alex Partridgehost
Aug 4, 202557mWatch on YouTube

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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

ADHD, hypermobility, and women: why collagen affects nervous systems

  1. Hypermobility is presented as a collagen-related whole-body difference that can reduce proprioceptive accuracy, creating a brain–body “prediction error” that fuels fidgeting, hypervigilance, and anxiety-like states.
  2. Nick cites emerging evidence and clinical experience suggesting hypermobility is more common in ADHD populations (about 40% overall in one study, and much higher in women), while emphasizing correlation vs causation caveats.
  3. The episode frames many chronic symptoms—pain, fatigue, dizziness, sensory sensitivity, and emotional overwhelm—as nervous-system phenomena that worsen when people stop moving, become fearful, or feel invalidated by fragmented healthcare.
  4. Practical management focuses on education, graded physical training, and autonomic “hacks” (hydration/salt, compression garments, cold-shower tolerance, and “duvet dancing” for POTS) to build resilience and reduce fear responses.
  5. Nick argues ADHD is often a regulation problem rather than a deficit, highlighting strengths like pattern recognition and high “sampling rate,” while warning about real-world risks from distraction (notably driving and screens).

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Hypermobility can act like a noisy body-sensing system.

Nick links collagen laxity to lower-resolution proprioceptive feedback, forcing the brain to “sample” more to feel safe, which can look like fidgeting, vigilance, clumsiness, and faster neural fatigue.

Screening can be simple, cheap, and early.

He recommends routine use of the Beighton score (a 9-point mobility screen) and argues schools could flag hypermobility early to prompt supportive exercise rather than waiting for “damaged adults.”

In ADHD groups, hypermobility may be especially common in women.

He references research suggesting ~40% prevalence in ADHD cohorts and much higher rates among women, and stresses that many “anxious” presentations may reflect physiology-driven hypervigilance, not “neuroticism.”

Pain and emotion are tightly coupled in the nervous system.

He distinguishes nociception from chronic pain, arguing chronic pain reflects a shift into emotional circuitry, so validation and nervous-system education can be therapeutic rather than dismissive (“it’s in your head”).

POTS-like symptoms are often missed but straightforward to check.

Nick describes orthostatic symptoms as delayed cardiovascular compensation due to vessel laxity; measuring pulse/BP lying vs standing can reveal the pattern, guiding hydration, salt, pacing, and heat management.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

We've got so obsessed with cognition, the brain, how clever we are, et cetera, is that we've forgotten that we are an embodied brain, okay? We can't, we cannot build models of the world unless we have a body.

— Dr. Nick Potter

The problem for hypermobility is that we have a collagen disorder. We lack a particular type of collagen. That collagen binds us together. So we have tissues that are like marshmallow instead of chewing gum.

— Dr. Nick Potter

So there's a dissonance, a mismatch between what your vision's telling you and what your body's telling you. That's what we call prediction error.

— Dr. Nick Potter

So it is a Ferrari brain that has its advantages.

— Dr. Nick Potter

And that's why I have them crying of joy in my room saying... 'Fuck, somebody has told me why I'm like I am.'

— Dr. Nick Potter

Read the available transcript
Beighton score and hypermobility screeningCollagen, proprioception, and prediction errorFemale prevalence and under-recognitionPain mechanisms and nervous-system sensitizationPOTS/dysautonomia, blood pooling, and dizzinessEnergy budgeting: “Ferrari brain” metaphorExercise, shame, and skill acquisition in childhood

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  • Alex Partridge

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    Host of the ADHD Chatter Podcast, interviewing experts and running show segments and sponsor reads.

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