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12 Day War, Socialism Wins in NYC, Stocks All-Time High, AI Copyright, Science Corner

(0:00) Bestie intros: The Core Four is back! (1:38) Launching All-In Tequila! (7:01) US negotiates ceasefire: what it means for the future of the region (29:48) How markets digested the last few weeks in the Middle East, crucial role of energy independence (39:58) Democratic Socialist Zohran Mamdani upsets Andrew Cuomo in the Democratic Primary for NYC Mayor (1:06:02) Science Corner: Stem cell-driven aging reversal out of China (1:18:09) Market at all-time highs after huge turnaround: bull and bear cases; Next Fed chair? (1:32:49) Anthropic and Meta receive favorable rulings Get All-In Tequila: https://tequila.allin.com Join us at All-In Summit: https://allin.com/summit Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/nato-secretary-general-calls-trump-daddy/story?id=123197665 https://x.com/whitehouse/status/1938053287535616085 https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2012/09/benjamin-netanyahu-should-be-careful-about-inserting-himself-too-much-into-the-presidential-race-between-barack-obama-and-mitt-romney.html https://x.com/DavidSacks/status/1936973199734079907 https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/06/23/exclusive-israel-intelligence-iran-call-audio https://x.com/BillClinton/status/1937937455065293017 https://x.com/chuckschumer/status/1937890929689420209 https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/25/investing/stock-market-record-dow https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M2SL https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MMMFFAQ027S https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gdp-report-first-quarter-2025-declined-commerce-department https://polymarket.com/event/fed-decision-in-september?tid=1751083141866 https://polymarket.com/event/who-will-trump-announce-as-next-fed-chair/will-trump-announce-kevin-warsh-as-next-fed-chair-in-2025?tid=1750968570295 https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/anthropic-lands-partial-victory-in-ai-case-set-to-shape-future-rulings-e3560114 https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/25/meta-llama-ai-copyright-ruling.html https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/boards-policy-regulation/microsoft-sued-by-authors-over-use-books-ai-training-2025-06-25 #allin #tech #news

David FriedberghostJason CalacanishostChamath PalihapitiyahostGuestguest
Jun 28, 20251h 47mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 11:00

    Cold Open: ‘Daddy’s Home’ and All-In Tequila Launch

    The episode opens with the besties riffing on a White House ‘Daddy’s Home’ video from the NATO summit and joking about Vegas trips and bottle service. They pivot into celebrating the launch party for their All-In Tequila at Delilah, describing the multi‑year process of sourcing, aging, and designing a limited‑run extra añejo product.

  2. 11:00 – 18:30

    From Caviar to Conflict: Setting Up the 12-Day Israel–Iran War

    Amid jokes about hotel room service, initials on pillows, and ‘elitist’ lifestyles, the crew pivots sharply to the 12‑day conflict between Israel and Iran. JCal recaps Israel’s initial surprise strike on Iranian military and nuclear personnel, followed by the U.S. ‘Operation Midnight Hammer’ B‑2 strikes on Iran’s nuclear facilities.

  3. 18:30 – 24:30

    Trump’s Ceasefire, Nuclear Red Lines, and Avoiding World War III

    The besties analyze Trump’s negotiation of a ceasefire between Israel and Iran and his unusual public rebuke of Israel for breaking the agreed 12‑hour window with heavy bombing. Sacks contrasts Trump’s restraint with neocon calls for regime change and argues that Trump fulfilled his ‘no forever wars’ promise while still enforcing a firm anti‑nuclear line on Iran.

  4. 24:30 – 31:30

    Chamath’s Superpower Framework: America as Singular Hegemon Again

    Chamath zooms out to frame the episode as one of the most consequential weeks in U.S. politics in decades, arguing Trump has reestablished the U.S. as the preeminent global superpower. He lays out a hierarchy of technological, economic, and military supremacy and claims recent events in AI, markets, and the Middle East demonstrate America is ‘firing on all cylinders.’

  5. 31:30 – 43:00

    Is It Really Over? Future Flare-Ups and Mearsheimer’s Prophecy

    Friedberg stresses that the Israel–Iran struggle is far from resolved, likening the present moment to mid‑chapter in a ‘choose your own adventure’ book. The group then plays a nine‑month‑old clip of John Mearsheimer predicting that Israel would attempt to drag the U.S. into a war on Iran’s nuclear program, and that U.S.–Iran collusion might be needed to prevent this.

  6. 43:00 – 55:00

    Oil, Markets, and Middle East Normalization After the Strikes

    The conversation turns to oil prices and the market’s surprising calm after the strikes. Chamath explains why he had feared $100 oil in a protracted conflict but now believes markets are correctly pricing in Iran’s weakened position and a broader Middle East move toward monetizing oil under a more stable, Israel‑normalized regional order.

  7. 55:00 – 1:02:00

    Nuclear Dominoes and Why Proliferation Must Stop with Iran

    JCal challenges Sacks on the perceived double standard of Israel’s undeclared nuclear arsenal while denying nukes to others in the region. Sacks responds with a classic non‑proliferation argument: each new nuclear power triggers pressures on neighbors, leading toward 200 nuclear states and a much riskier world.

  8. 1:02:00 – 1:09:00

    Zohran Mamdani’s Shock Win and the Urban Socialist Wave

    The focus shifts domestically to New York City, where democratic socialist Zohran Mamdani has unexpectedly beaten Andrew Cuomo in the Democratic primary for mayor. The besties dissect Mamdani’s platform—free buses, rent freezes, public grocery stores, $30 minimum wage, defund-the-police—and frame his rise as the leading edge of a broader socialist tide in U.S. cities fueled by student‑debt‑burdened youth.

  9. 1:09:00 – 1:17:00

    Student Debt as the Fuse for Populist Socialism

    Friedberg presents student debt as the core structural driver behind the new urban left. Using data on the explosion of student loan balances and the distribution of indebted graduates, he argues that millions of young Americans with negative net worth are logically voting for more government, higher taxes on the rich, and expanded redistribution—historically the prelude to socialism.

  10. 1:17:00 – 1:27:00

    Fixing the University–Debt Complex and the Death of the Old Parties

    Sacks and Friedberg outline a market‑discipline approach to higher ed while condemning the Democratic establishment for failing to offer credible alternatives to socialists like Mamdani. They argue the old neoliberal/neocon order has collapsed, leaving a future choice between Republican populist nationalism (MAGA) and Democratic populist socialism.

  11. 1:27:00 – 1:38:00

    Pendulum Politics: Why Socialist Cities Will Have to Learn the Hard Way

    Chamath pushes back on some of the alarmism, arguing that Mamdani’s program is not novel but borrowed from cities like London and Chicago where it has underperformed. He predicts political pendulum swings: cities will likely endure decades of mismanagement and rising crime under left‑populist policies before swinging back to more order‑focused leadership.

  12. 1:38:00 – 1:49:00

    Science Corner: Stem-Cell FOXO3 Therapy and Monkey Age Reversal

    In a detailed Science Corner, Friedberg explains a Chinese study demonstrating systemic age reversal in monkeys using CRISPR‑engineered stem cells that overexpress the FOXO3 gene. The treatment led to multi‑system rejuvenation without observed side effects, raising the prospect of human cell‑therapy‑based age‑reversal interventions within a decade.

  13. 1:49:00 – 2:03:00

    Side Quests: Sleep-Gene Editing, Planes, Starlink, and Lifestyle Flex

    The science discussion branches into speculative future biohacking and tech‑enabled lifestyles. Chamath describes ongoing work to edit a ‘short sleep’ gene found in Trump and Clinton so people can function fully on four hours of sleep, while the group digresses into private jet amenities, in‑flight Starlink connectivity, and fintech perks.

  14. 2:03:00 – 2:11:00

    Markets, Fed Cuts, and Trading the Trump ‘Chaos’ Narrative

    The pod returns to macro and markets, weighing all‑time highs in the NASDAQ and big tech against weak Q1 GDP and lingering inflation. Friedberg is cautious, suggesting asset price inflation rather than broad fundamental strength, while Chamath and Sacks argue that falling inflation and likely Fed cuts make being long equities highly attractive—especially whenever media hysteria around Trump spikes.

  15. 2:11:00 – 2:21:00

    Who Replaces Powell? Rates, Politics, and the Next Fed Chair

    The hosts speculate about the timing of rate cuts and who might replace Jerome Powell at the Fed. They cite prediction markets showing strong odds of a 25 bp cut in September and debate whether candidates like Tom Waller, Kevin Warsh, or Chris Epsen would be better fits given their experience and Trump’s preferences.

  16. 2:21:00 – 2:34:00

    AI Copyright: Anthropic’s Win, Piracy vs. Fair Use, and China

    In the final substantive segment, the besties unpack a landmark AI copyright ruling in Anthropic’s favor and what it means for model training, content creators, and U.S. competitiveness with China. Sachs defends a broad fair‑use interpretation for training, while JCal argues that outputs that substitute for paid content will trigger liability and force revenue‑sharing with publishers.

  17. 2:34:00

    Wrap-Up: Summit Plug and Besties’ Signature Chaos

    The episode winds down with a plug for the upcoming All-In Summit in Los Angeles, joking references to their dogs, orgy humor, and callbacks to recurring pod memes. The hosts reiterate their belief that the show surfaces key narratives months before they hit mainstream discourse and sign off as ‘the number one podcast in the world.’

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