E3: Modern Cold War, politicizing the pandemic & more with David Sacks & David Friedberg

ℹ️ EPISODE INFO

Released

May 21, 2020

Duration

1h 6m

Channel

All-In Podcast

Watch on YouTube

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📝 EPISODE DESCRIPTION

Modern Cold War between US & China, economic recovery, potential mass migration out of San Francisco, pandemic politicization & more with David Sacks & David Friedberg Subscribe: https://bio.fm/theallinpod 0:01 Jason & Chamath intro David Sacks & David Friedberg 1:15 Everybody gives their quarantine update: Sacks is in Mexico while running Craft remote, Chamath got a new poker table & is excited for shelter-in-place to end, Friedberg is getting back into a rhythm 8:04 Chamath & Sacks reflect on the coming return to normalcy & politicization of the virus 12:41 Sacks on 3 major data-driven discoveries about the virus 15:54 Friedberg on fatality rate data, overestimating the lockdown's impact on stopping the virus 19:32 Getting back to work 21:05 Chamath on the stock market not reflecting the economy, Sacks on what an economic recovery might look like 28:00 Friedberg on potential of another NYC-level outbreak, Chamath on negative impact of left/right culture war 34:05 Sacks on democratic hesitation to end lockdowns giving Trump a strategic advantage, Friedberg on Hydroxychloroquine's benefits/risks 37:57 Sacks on potential resorting of the Bay Area & Silicon Valley due to remote work 41:51 Chamath on benefits of working remote, why San Francisco might lose large numbers of people 45:18 Tesla/Fremont situation a microcosm for politicization of the pandemic, benefits of people starting to distrust inept bureaucrats 49:33 Chamath on the beginning of the modern Cold War, dealing with market conditions considering China's standing in the world, ideological issues 53:46 Sacks on US/China relationship, how US can penalize China 59:25 Friedberg on how US can leapfrog China in manufacturing by using modern, automated solutions

🎤 SPEAKERS

• Jason Calacanis

  host

• Chamath Palihapitiya

  host

• David Friedberg

  host

🧾 EPISODE SUMMARY

In this episode of All-In Podcast, featuring Jason Calacanis and Chamath Palihapitiya, E3: Modern Cold War, politicizing the pandemic & more with David Sacks & David Friedberg explores pandemic Politics, Economic Turmoil, and a New U.S.–China Cold War The hosts and guests discuss how COVID-19 has evolved from a health crisis into a deeply politicized battle over lockdowns, masks, and economic policy. They argue that lockdowns were misdesigned and poorly enforced, and that widespread mask usage plus targeted protections could have replaced broad shutdowns. The conversation shifts to the distorted stock market recovery, long-term unemployment, remote work, and the likely reshaping of cities like San Francisco and New York. They close by framing rising U.S.–China tensions as the start of a modern Cold War and debate how America should decouple from Chinese supply chains while leapfrogging in manufacturing technology.

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