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E32: Behind the scenes of Elon hosting SNL, CDC failures, America's real-time UBI experiment & more

Follow the besties: https://twitter.com/chamath https://linktr.ee/calacanis https://twitter.com/DavidSacks https://twitter.com/friedberg Follow the pod: https://twitter.com/theallinpod https://linktr.ee/allinpodcast Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://twitter.com/yung_spielburg Referenced in the show: NY Times - A Misleading C.D.C. Number https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/11/briefing/outdoor-covid-transmission-cdc-number.html medRxiv - COVID-19 Aerosolized Viral Loads, Environment, Ventilation, Masks, Exposure Time, Severity, And Immune Response: A Pragmatic Guide Of Estimates https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.10.03.20206110v6.full Business Insider - Silicon Valley VCs are at war with the ‘far left radicals’ running California https://www.businessinsider.com/silicon-valley-venture-capitalists-at-front-lines-california-recall-2021-5 NY Post - Powerful teachers union influenced CDC on school reopenings, emails show https://nypost.com/2021/05/01/teachers-union-collaborated-with-cdc-on-school-reopening-emails/ MMA - Governor Reeves Announces End to Pandemic Unemployment Assistance https://mma-web.org/governor-reeves-announces-end-to-pandemic-unemployment-assistance/ Tweets: https://twitter.com/DavidSacks/status/1392154915640729605 https://twitter.com/DavidSacks/status/1392223301154447361 https://twitter.com/Jason/status/1391591653824204801 https://twitter.com/Jason/status/1391257138698375168 https://twitter.com/skepticaliblog/status/1391958173955682309 https://twitter.com/TaylorLorenz/status/1390390598444609538 https://twitter.com/friedberg/status/1392551233618026496 https://twitter.com/bytecoin8 Show Notes: 0:00 Jason goes behind the scenes of Elon's SNL appearance 23:36 CDC failures, misleading information on COVID spreading outdoors 39:10 Reacting to Stanley Druckenmiller's thoughts on current Fed policy, decoupling of capital markets from policy 48:32 America's real-time UBI experiment, Business Insider's piece covering All-In 1:05:23 Friedberg's science corner: synthetic biology IPO/SPACs, stem cell breakthroughs & more 1:19:15 Should the besties start a third party? Is it possible? #allin #tech #news

David FriedberghostChamath PalihapitiyahostJason Calacanishost
May 12, 20211h 23mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Elon’s SNL, CDC missteps, inflation fears, and bioengineering the future

  1. The hosts open with a behind-the-scenes look at Elon Musk’s week hosting Saturday Night Live, detailing writers’ room negotiations, joke punch‑ups, and how the Asperger’s monologue line landed emotionally with staff and viewers. They then pivot to COVID policy, criticizing CDC guidance on outdoor transmission and masks, and arguing that fear, politics, and union pressure have distorted public‑health decisions and prolonged school closures. From there, they connect those institutional failures to macroeconomics, highlighting Stan Druckenmiller’s warnings about Fed policy, inflation, labor shortages, and what they call an implicit nationwide UBI experiment via stimulus and extended unemployment. The episode closes with optimism about synthetic biology and stem‑cell therapies as world‑changing technologies, alongside a call for more “reasonable,” centrist politics that supports science and productive capitalism instead of ideological extremes.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Elon’s SNL appearance was tightly negotiated and more emotionally significant than it seemed on air.

Jason Calacanis describes serving as Musk’s informal writer and negotiator, pushing for edgier material (e.g., Dogecoin content) and crafting the Asperger’s joke, which unexpectedly resonated with staff and viewers who saw it as destigmatizing rather than just a punchline.

Comedy on network TV now operates under overlapping vetoes—legal, political, and emotional—which narrows what can be aired.

The hosts recount sketches that were toned down or killed due to standards, legal risk, or staff sensitivities, arguing that SNL must balance artistic risk with the preferences of a small but powerful minority inside the institution.

CDC mask and outdoor-transmission guidance lags both data and common sense, undermining trust.

They highlight New York Times and Atlantic reporting that casual outdoor spread is vanishingly rare (<1%, likely <0.1%), yet CDC still quotes “under 10%” and keeps strict rules for kids and outdoor activities, which the hosts see as misleading and politically influenced.

Extended stimulus and enhanced unemployment benefits are functioning as a real-time UBI experiment with mixed economic effects.

Examples like restaurant labor shortages, high Uber driver wages, and states like Montana opting out of federal bonuses illustrate how generous benefits can disincentivize work, constraining reopening and fueling wage and price inflation.

Aggressive Fed and fiscal policy risk stoking inflation and crowding out productive investment.

Quoting Stan Druckenmiller and recent CPI data, they argue that post-crisis money printing, debt issuance, and big new spending/tax plans are driving up input costs, spooking growth-stock markets, and may turn a potential post‑COVID boom into a stagflationary bust.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

It was one of the happiest times I’ve ever seen in Elon’s life, and I’ve been with him for 20 years.

Jason Calacanis

We’re in a race between technological acceleration and social and political deterioration.

David Sacks

This is not taking COVID seriously. This is basically an irrational fear of COVID.

David Sacks

Clinging to an emergency after the emergency has passed is what the Fed behavior indicates right now.

Summary of Stan Druckenmiller’s view, paraphrased by the hosts

Nothing drives me more nuts than when I see money not going to science.

David Friedberg

Behind-the-scenes details of Elon Musk’s SNL hosting week and joke developmentElon’s Asperger’s monologue line, public reaction, and comedy constraints at SNLMask usage, CDC guidance on outdoor transmission, and politicization of COVID policyFed money printing, inflation concerns, labor shortages, and de facto UBI effectsState and federal fiscal policy, California’s surplus, and tax/spend debatesMedia dynamics, “going direct,” and perceived bias in political coverageSynthetic biology, stem-cell therapies, and the coming bioengineering revolution

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